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Posted: 9/6/2014 11:18 PM
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Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: September 13th, 2014 12:00 PM

Opponent: Marshall (2-0)

Site: Joan C. Edwards Stadium

TV: CBS Sports Network (DirecTV -221, Dish - 158)

Radio: Ohio Radio

Webcast: TBA

Weather

Marshall's media guide, roster and statistics.

Marshall fan site: HerdNation.com (Rivals)

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RB Papi White - Out (knee)
S Josh Kristoff - Questionable (hamstring)
OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable (ankle) CB Brett Layton - Questionable (knee)
TE Brennan Boland - Questionable
LB Ben Russell - Out (shoulder)
OL Seth Everhart - Out (appendicitis)
OL Durrell Wood - Out for season (shoulder)
DT Tony Stephens - Out for season (knee)
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One of our d-linemen (Cam McLeod) was hurt mid second half yesterday.  Did he return..what's his status?


Before the season began and with all the hype for stupd cow, I didn't think we had much chance in this game.  Different thinking now.  Now, I eagerly await this one.

OHIO will play.
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The line for the game is -19 and some places -20.5 in favor of Marshall

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Marshall fans created a Twitter handle for the Battle for the Bell (@Battle4Bell).

One of worst moments of my life. Save me @HerdFB How could you let this happen? #athenssucks #GoHerd #BeatOhio pic.twitter.com/roZ6qkm95X— The Bell (@Battle4Bell) September 7, 2014
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last year the line was -9.5 Marshall, how did that turn out for them?
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Athens Sucks?

Listen, inanimate bell. Hate on our football tradition. Make fun of our hippies. Call us kittens. Sic Chuck Landon's oh-so-clever-he-might be opening-for-Paula-Poundstone-at-YukYuks-in-1988 banter on us in the thriving business that is print journalism.

BUT DON'T YOU EVER...EVER...SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT ATHENS!
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I don't get the point spread. Rhode Island is horrible, they lost their last 4 games last year and the last 3 they gave up over 50 points a game and finished 3-9. Fiami isn't exactly a powerhouse, if I was a betting man I'd put big money down on this spread.
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I don't get the point spread. Rhode Island is horrible, they lost their last 4 games last year and the last 3 they gave up over 50 points a game and finished 3-9. Fiami isn't exactly a powerhouse, if I was a betting man I'd put big money down on this spread.
The point spread is to encourage betting... if people believe in the Bobcats, it'll drop. If not, it stays. Simple.
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When you haven't scored a TD in 6 quarters the spread tends to not be in your favor. Marshall has their best team since leaving the MAC, Ohio's offense is talented but inexperienced, its logical that Marshall would be favored. I will caution overly confident Marshall fans (as if there's any other kind) to be mindful that this is likely the best Ohio defense they've ever seen. This is going to be a low scoring battle. Hope you're ready.
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When you haven't scored a TD in 6 quarters the spread tends to not be in your favor. Marshall has their best team since leaving the MAC, Ohio's offense is talented but inexperienced, its logical that Marshall would be favored. I will caution overly confident Marshall fans (as if there's any other kind) to be mindful that this is likely the best Ohio defense they've ever seen. This is going to be a low scoring battle. Hope you're ready.
AND if we draw out the trend line, OHIO will be approximately +4.5 in turnovers this weekend (95% CI: 3-5).
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When you haven't scored a TD in 6 quarters the spread tends to not be in your favor. Marshall has their best team since leaving the MAC, Ohio's offense is talented but inexperienced, its logical that Marshall would be favored. I will caution overly confident Marshall fans (as if there's any other kind) to be mindful that this is likely the best Ohio defense they've ever seen. This is going to be a low scoring battle. Hope you're ready.
I look forward to us seeing a good test against Ohio. If we torch you then i know they are legit. Our Defense is also pretty good. The starters held rhode island to 90 yards saturday. Had some hiccups against miami but also played base sets the whole game.
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Athens Sucks?

Listen, inanimate bell. Hate on our football tradition. Make fun of our hippies. Call us kittens. Sic Chuck Landon's oh-so-clever-he-might be opening-for-Paula-Poundstone-at-YukYuks-in-1988 banter on us in the thriving business that is print journalism.

BUT DON'T YOU EVER...EVER...SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT ATHENS!
Preach it, brother!
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Athens Sucks?

Listen, inanimate bell. Hate on our football tradition. Make fun of our hippies. Call us kittens. Sic Chuck Landon's oh-so-clever-he-might be opening-for-Paula-Poundstone-at-YukYuks-in-1988 banter on us in the thriving business that is print journalism.

BUT DON'T YOU EVER...EVER...SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT ATHENS!
Preach it, brother!
and why is the twitter account for a Bell that's been owned by Ohio for the last 3 years being run by a Herd guy? its not a Herd bell.
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Athens Sucks?

Listen, inanimate bell. Hate on our football tradition. Make fun of our hippies. Call us kittens. Sic Chuck Landon's oh-so-clever-he-might be opening-for-Paula-Poundstone-at-YukYuks-in-1988 banter on us in the thriving business that is print journalism.

BUT DON'T YOU EVER...EVER...SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT ATHENS!
Preach it, brother!
and why is the twitter account for a Bell that's been owned by Ohio for the last 3 years being run by a Herd guy? its not a Herd bell.
It has soent the majority of its time in huntington. Since 85 anyway.
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Marshall fans remind me of Michigan fans. They talk about how great things were about 10-20 years ago and refuse to come to the realization that their respective programs have more or less done nothing significant since those glory days.

Don't you dare talk bad about the 1997 Michigan team or how their record against Ohio State is 2-10 since 2001. And don't you dare talk bad about Randy, Chad or Byron or even think of mentioning Ohio's current three game winning streak against Marshall.
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Athens Sucks?

Listen, inanimate bell. Hate on our football tradition. Make fun of our hippies. Call us kittens. Sic Chuck Landon's oh-so-clever-he-might be opening-for-Paula-Poundstone-at-YukYuks-in-1988 banter on us in the thriving business that is print journalism.

BUT DON'T YOU EVER...EVER...SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT ATHENS!
Preach it, brother!
and why is the twitter account for a Bell that's been owned by Ohio for the last 3 years being run by a Herd guy? its not a Herd bell.
It has soent the majority of its time in huntington. Since 85 anyway.
oh, its based on arbitrary dates, makes total sense now. Well here's a date- March, 2006. That's when Twitter was founded. Since then Ohio is 3-2 v Marshall. BOOM.
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Marshall fans remind me of Michigan fans. They talk about how great things were about 10-20 years ago and refuse to come to the realization that their respective programs have more or less done nothing significant since those glory days.

Don't you dare talk bad about the 1997 Michigan team or how their record against Ohio State is 2-10 since 2001. And don't you dare talk bad about Randy, Chad or Byron or even think of mentioning Ohio's current three game winning streak against Marshall.
Oh... id say a 10-4 season capped by an ACC win in a bowl game was fairly significant. Your wins over us.... obviously significant to you.
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...significant. Your wins over us.... obviously significant to you.

Well, the 2011 win did come in at #5 in the most significant wins of the last 9 years.
http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

The others did not make the Top 10 in a fan vote over the summer.
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
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Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: September 13th, 2014 12:00 PM

Opponent: Marshall (2-0)

Site: Joan C. Edwards Stadium

TV: CBS Sports Network (DirecTV -221, Dish - 158)

Radio: Ohio Radio

Webcast: TBA

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Marshall's media guide, roster and statistics.

Marshall fan site: HerdNation.com (Rivals)

Ohio Injury List (status is my interpretation based upon media reports):

RB Papi White - Out (knee)
S Josh Kristoff - Questionable (hamstring)
OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable (ankle) CB Brett Layton - Questionable (knee)
TE Brennan Boland - Questionable
LB Ben Russell - Out (shoulder)
OL Seth Everhart - Out (appendicitis)
OL Durrell Woo

d - Out for season (shoulder)
DT Tony Stephens - Out for season (knee)
Thats a huge injury list. How many played in the UK game?
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Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: September 13th, 2014 12:00 PM

Opponent: Marshall (2-0)

Site: Joan C. Edwards Stadium

TV: CBS Sports Network (DirecTV -221, Dish - 158)

Radio: Ohio Radio

Webcast: TBA

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Marshall's media guide, roster and statistics.

Marshall fan site: HerdNation.com (Rivals)

Ohio Injury List (status is my interpretation based upon media reports):

RB Papi White - Out (knee)
S Josh Kristoff - Questionable (hamstring)
OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable (ankle) CB Brett Layton - Questionable (knee)
TE Brennan Boland - Questionable
LB Ben Russell - Out (shoulder)
OL Seth Everhart - Out (appendicitis)
OL Durrell Woo

d - Out for season (shoulder)
DT Tony Stephens - Out for season (knee)
Thats a huge injury list. How many played in the UK game?
That might be a huge injury list for a normal team, but it's actually pretty light for us.

That said, I don't think any of these injuries are from the UK game. One I don't see on here is Chase Cochran. I believe he will play, but didn't he have a pretty good stinger last game?
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
What undefeated run? You won your last game last year but lost the game before that. So, that's three in a row. Three. T h r e e. One plus one plus one.

Oh. I get it. If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.



The best part about stupd cow is we don't have to make this stuff up because they do it themselves.
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Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.

Lololololololol.
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Ohio Injury List (status is my interpretation based upon media reports):
RB Papi White - Out (knee)
S Josh Kristoff - Questionable (hamstring)
OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable (ankle) CB Brett Layton - Questionable (knee)
TE Brennan Boland - Questionable
LB Ben Russell - Out (shoulder)
OL Seth Everhart - Out (appendicitis)
OL Durrell Wood - Out for season (shoulder)
DT Tony Stephens - Out for season (knee)

Thats a huge injury list. How many played in the UK game?

The only one of the above that has played in any games this year is White, who played perhaps 10 plays against Kent State.

Kristoff (S) and Russell (MLB) are returning starters, and were among the leading tacklers last year. Wood and Gibbons were the #1 and #2 RG, respectively, and Everhart is the #2 LG, and probably could have played RG had he been healthy. As a result, RG is being played by a true Freshman, Preuhs, and his backup is another true Freshman, McCray.

The injury list is actually shorter than a week ago as a couple players that missed the Kent State game were able to play against Kentucky.
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If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.
That's good for all of us.
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
What undefeated run? You won your last game last year but lost the game before that. So, that's three in a row. Three. T h r e e. One plus one plus one.

Oh. I get it. If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.



The best part about stupd cow is we don't have to make this stuff up because they do it themselves.

Many publications have predicted an undefeated season for MU so I'd say that's what he's talking about.
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
1. Xavier 1971
2. #24 BYU to cap the undefeated top 10 1999 season
3. #6 Kansas State
4. Clemson
5. South Carolina
6. Youngstown State for national title. Merricks kick
7. Louisville (multiple times but bowl games come to mind and 2011 vs bridgewater)
8. ECU GMAC bowl
9. Maryland
10. Any number of MAC title games here on. But id go with 1999 WMU championship win at last second.

Ohio isnt close to making our top 10... sorry
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UCLA's 88-game streak. The Miami Dolphins' run to Super Bowl glory. The Heat's incredible 27-game jaunt. And Marshall's two-game undefeated run.

Breathtaking, really. Have they printed up T-shirts with the sleeves cut off yet to celebrate?
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins.
The top 10 list is just for the Solich era, 2005-present, which for Marshall would be the CUSA era. Marshall has 3 bowl wins- Ohio, FIU and Maryland, and 1 other win against a P5, Lville during that time. Take the bowl win against Ohio out and you've got 3 wins. You want us to believe that Marshall, a team that has had just 3 winning seasons in the last 9 years, has had 7 other wins bigger than one of your bowl wins?

I would love to see this top 10 list of yours.
1. Xavier 1971
2. #24 BYU to cap the undefeated top 10 1999 season
3. #6 Kansas State
4. Clemson
5. South Carolina
6. Youngstown State for national title. Merricks kick
7. Louisville (multiple times but bowl games come to mind and 2011 vs bridgewater)
8. ECU GMAC bowl
9. Maryland
10. Any number of MAC title games here on. But id go with 1999 WMU championship win at last second.

Ohio isnt close to making our top 10... sorry
reading comprehension obviously not a strong suit.
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
The Solich era Top 10 was the result of voting by fans. Your Marshall 2005 to present Top 10 is yours alone. If Marshall fans were voting, I wonder what their Top 10 would look like. I wonder for example if Marshall's 24-23 2010 win over Ohio might make the list. As I said, just wondering.
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Marshall's top shameful losses...
1. Ohio
2. Ohio
3. Ohio
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
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Marshall's top shameful losses...
1. Ohio
2. Ohio
3. Ohio
Unacceptable losses.
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
Not necessarily calling them out, just wondering why that's big to them. It doesn't look like one on paper but maybe there's something to it.

You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
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You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
Eh, that Penn State team finished 8-4, 6-2 in the B1G including a win over #24 Northwestern. Other than us, their other losses were to #9 osu and #18 Nebraska, plus a 1 point loss to Virginia where their kicker missed 4 field goals. Yes they were dealing with as much off-the-field drama as any team in college football in the last 30 years (maybe ever) but that was a pretty good team we beat.

But yes, Illinois was bad and Pitt was middling-to-bad...although Pitt had been ranked going into the season.
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2005 to present

1. Maryland
2. Louisville 2011
3. ECU east title game
4. ECU 2007
5. Houston 2008
6. SMU 2009
7. Southern Miss 2011
8. ECU 2011 to make us bowl eligible
9. Houston 2012
10.FIU and their highly touted team in beef o bradys bowl
Just curious as to why 2011 Louisville was such a big win? That team went 7-6, lost to FIU (finished 8-5), lost to UNC (finished 7-6), lost to Marshall (7-6), lost to Cincinnati (10-3), lost to Pitt (6-7) and lost to NC State in the Belk Bowl (8-5). They were only in Charlie Strong's 2nd year and Teddy Bridgewater was a freshman. That's a significant win for you guys? BTW, Louisville went 7-6 in 2010 too, so it's not like this was some team on the rise just yet. 2012 was the year they broke through. If Marshall fans think that's a big win, then so be it. I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Seriously, we're going to call them out on this? I hate stupid cow as much as the next guy, but we all think Illinois (2-10) in 2006 was a significant win. It's significant to us, even if to no one else. I don't think we can question Louisville on their list.
Not necessarily calling them out, just wondering why that's big to them. It doesn't look like one on paper but maybe there's something to it.

You're right, some of Ohio's best wins are against Illinois, Pitt and Penn State when each were not so great. Considering Ohio's football history, I don't think it's fair to compare the significance of each program's wins at all. I'm just curious to see where Marshall fans are coming up with their wins and why.
We beat Louisville a lot. But a p5 win is a p5 win. A win for a young marshall team on the road against louisville is a big win.
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How about the Bobcats conclude this Epic winning streak that the herd has going right now?
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Ohio doesn't make it in to any of our top 10 wins. This season jt will, you and akron are the 2 hardest OOC games and we have the "ohio monkey on the back" like you dod kent state. We

Ohio wpuld like nothing more but to end marshalls undefeated run.
What undefeated run? You won your last game last year but lost the game before that. So, that's three in a row. Three. T h r e e. One plus one plus one.

Oh. I get it. If you're a stupd cow fan then three is an enormous number which about exhausts the limit of your ability to conceive.



The best part about stupd cow is we don't have to make this stuff up because they do it themselves.

Many publications have predicted an undefeated season for MU so I'd say that's what he's talking about.
They live in a bubble in athens. They have no clue so i just ignore the idiotic comments.
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How about the Bobcats conclude this Epic winning streak that the herd has going right now?
First, we have been picked to go undefeated and to the access bowl by many. Thats what was meant. Second, we are on a 9 game home winning streak i believe it is. Maybe 10.
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Look, root for your little, inconsequential team if you want. Generally, people should root for their school, their team. Except stupd cow--sick, sick.

That said, you really ought to be somewhat objective about your team. And OUrs. No one expects perfect objectivity--merely a reasonable, balance approach.

Which is not exemplified by idiots who think predictions that your team will go undefeated amount to a winning streak, or mo-rons who take selective stats (wins at home...which someone, I think, identified as not involving much in the way of wins over good teams).

stupd cow should be significantly favored over O H I O. But 20 points is a good bit too much. We've seen our defense and it ain't likely to give up 45 points. This is the best defense that Solich has had.

And, OHIO's offense is young (played 3 true frosh on O-line) and almost all new guys (played zero or very few games) at qb, rb, and receivers. But an offense with some talent. An offense that, barring injuries, will get markedly better as the season goes.

This won't be an easy game for stupd cow.
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stupd cow should be significantly favored over O H I O. But 20 points is a good bit too much. We've seen our defense and it ain't likely to give up 45 points. This is the best defense that Solich has had.

And, OHIO's offense is young (played 3 true frosh on O-line) and almost all new guys (played zero or very few games) at qb, rb, and receivers. But an offense with some talent. An offense that, barring injuries, will get markedly better as the season goes.
In a turnover free game, I agree our defense won't give up 45, but I'm not sure our offense can put up 20...at this point.

This game will most likely come down to turnovers (it has for the last several years). This year our Bobcats have turned the ball over 5 times and has not force a turnover. My green glasses think we are due for a turnaround.

My prediction:

Turnover margin = >+2 - OHIO wins
Turnover margin = +2 - OHIO wins in close game
Turnover margin = +1 - Marshall wins in close game
Turnover margin = EVEN - Marshall wins but doesn't cover spread
Turnover margin = - 1 - Marshall covers spread
Turnover margin = -2 - UGLY
Turnover margin = > (or is it <) -2 - Fans on this website will indicate the season is lost and start focusing on next year
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?

I hope for a injury free and great game. I will root for ohio after this week.
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[QUOTE=Pataskala]

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?
Undefeated, yes. But I'd be hesitant to claim any sort or a streak.
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Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?
Undefeated, yes. But I'd be hesitant to claim any sort or a streak.
Since there is no definition of a winning streak, its all subjective. I believe anything over 2 is a winning streak so yes we are on a 3 game winning streak, a 9 game home winning streak and ohio has a 3 game streak vs marshall. Its pointless to argue what is or what isn't something that has never been defined
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I see Marshall having a long streak - in their pants - once they get a load of the OHIO Defense! HA! Have fun at the game or watching the game everyone. No matter what has been said on here the past week, the game will be played on the field. Like all rivalry games, no one knows what's going to happen. My life won't end if the Bobcats lose - we are still 1-0 in the MAC. I hope everyone else has the same healthy attitude (you too Herd fans). It's just football, but it's a lot of fun.

P.S. I bet I know who will have the better marching band on Saturday : )
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...

Also ohio does have the chance to ruin our winning streak and undefeated season since we ARE undefeated and on a winning streak. If ohio was 2-0 then you would consider yourself undefeated, correct?

I hope for a injury free and great game. I will root for ohio after this week.
You're missng the fact that we won't need to score very much because our defense is currently on a 1 quarter shut out streak. I predict 3-0 Bobcats.
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Perhaps silly/ignorant question: Is this game on CBS's basic over-the-air local outlets (for me, that's in L.A.)? Or is CBS Sports Network a cable/pay channel that one has to get off Dish or DirecTV? Thanks.
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It's generally a higher than basic cable tier channel and definitely not over the air.
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Will the game be webcast? My ISP change finally went through, so I should have access to ESPN3 now.
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This game is on the CBS Sports Network (DirecTV channel 221 and Dish channel 158). You can use this link to find the channel on your cable system: http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/
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Will the game be webcast? My ISP change finally went through, so I should have access to ESPN3 now.
This is a CBS Sports Network game so it won't be on ESPN3 or WatchESPN. It's not clear to me whether CBS Sports Network has any live streaming functionality.
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LOL, figures. Oh well, I'm watching Ohio-Kent State now. I don't know why ESPN leaves the commercial breaks in the replay, but with no commercials, and I miss the fast forward/replay buttons, but it's nice to be able to see the game. I sure hope they don't leave a 15 minute gap in for halftime.

Edit - indeed, there was gap after gap for halftime. Seriously, they can automate the removal of those gaps, or they could insert ads....

I liked the way the defense played a lot, and I liked the tackling. On offense, the offensive line isn't terrible, but it's a step down from a few years ago. (I think with another year, it will be very good). To me the biggest difference from the offenses of 2011-2 is the missing tight ends. Think back to 2011 when Ohio had Jordan Thompson, Zac Clark, and Drew Roback. Mangen is fine, but there is only one of him. Doc Holliday is definitely right - the loss the the 2-3 tight end sets really changes what Ohio can do offensively.
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I was in Lexington last Saturday and watched every play up close so unless our offense improved dramatically over the last 6 days then I would be very, very surprised if we see the endzone more than twice. Our D will be epic, as it has been in the first two games, but our offense is, and will remain, a concern...until they prove to me that they're not.
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Will the game be webcast? My ISP change finally went through, so I should have access to ESPN3 now.
This is a CBS Sports Network game so it won't be on ESPN3 or WatchESPN. It's not clear to me whether CBS Sports Network has any live streaming functionality.
I don't think they do. Firstrowsports streams it, though. But, of course, we don't condone patronizing pirate sites. ;-)
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...
Of course, if you had actually READ my post, you'd realize that our scoring 35 is contingent on our (1) executing and (2) not turning over the ball. We coughed up two or three scores vs Kent, and dropped two or three vs UK. Ohio's offense is very capable of moving the ball and putting 35+ on the board tomorrow. But we need to avoid beating ourselves.
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...
Of course, if you had actually READ my post, you'd realize that our scoring 35 is contingent on our (1) executing and (2) not turning over the ball. We coughed up two or three scores vs Kent, and dropped two or three vs UK. Ohio's offense is very capable of moving the ball and putting 35+ on the board tomorrow. But we need to avoid beating ourselves.
Assuming that a stupd cow can read--not sure if we want to go there.
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LOL, figures. Oh well, I'm watching Ohio-Kent State now. I don't know why ESPN leaves the commercial breaks in the replay, but with no commercials, and I miss the fast forward/replay buttons, but it's nice to be able to see the game. I sure hope they don't leave a 15 minute gap in for halftime.

Edit - indeed, there was gap after gap for halftime. Seriously, they can automate the removal of those gaps, or they could insert ads....

I liked the way the defense played a lot, and I liked the tackling. On offense, the offensive line isn't terrible, but it's a step down from a few years ago. (I think with another year, it will be very good). To me the biggest difference from the offenses of 2011-2 is the missing tight ends. Think back to 2011 when Ohio had Jordan Thompson, Zac Clark, and Drew Roback. Mangen is fine, but there is only one of him. Doc Holliday is definitely right - the loss the the 2-3 tight end sets really changes what Ohio can do offensively.
one advantage to ESPN3 leaving in the gaps- you can pull the replay of Russ and Rob's radio call up in another window, mute the ESPN broadcast, and with a little tweaking you can manually sync the two broadcasts. Much more enjoyable experience.
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Interestingly via my new ISP I can watch anything on replay, but live I can only watch ESPN3. Anything that is on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU, I can't watch live. Oh well, it's an improvement.
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...

We coughed up two or three scores vs Kent, and dropped two or three vs UK.
Whoa. We dropped two or three scores against UK? That is news to me.

In the game I watched, our offense was thoroughly manhandled.
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We're playing a team that gave up 27 points to a Fiami team that could only manage 10 the next week vs Eastern Kentucky. 1AA EASTERN KENTUCKY!!!!! We execute and don't turn the ball over we should easily get 35. We get 35, we win. Go Bobcats!!
$#!&! I didnt know that Ohio won thus game already based off of the miami game alone. I mean its amazing the bobcats will be able to score 35 when they didnt even score more then that in the last two games...



Of course, if you had actually READ my post, you'd realize that our scoring 35 is contingent on our (1) executing and (2) not turning over the ball. We coughed up two or three scores vs Kent, and dropped two or three vs UK. Ohio's offense is very capable of moving the ball and putting 35+ on the board tomorrow. But we need to avoid beating ourselves.
Lol. Score 35 against us. You will do good to score 10. I only give you that, because its your superbowl. Otherwise, you would be shutout considering you could just score 3 against kentucky.
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Will the game be webcast? My ISP change finally went through, so I should have access to ESPN3 now.
This is a CBS Sports Network game so it won't be on ESPN3 or WatchESPN. It's not clear to me whether CBS Sports Network has any live streaming functionality.
CBS sports has an all access streming functonality for like 10 bucks. Also, any cable provider has CBS Sports channel. Just call and add it for the game then take it off.
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Oh wow! We have Central, Northern Illinois, Bowling Green, Akron and arch rival Miami on our schedule - and Marshall is our Super Bowl. Think before you speak Marshall person. We would rather have wins against any of those teams than (an important) but really for us, a meaningless game against Marshall, as far as the MAC East is concerned. That is our first priority, so don't get it twisted!
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Ok, this superbowl crap is dumb. BOTH fan bases get up for this game, as evidenced by the attendance numbers at each school because it is a rivalry, and that's what you do!
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You're missng the fact that we won't need to score very much because our defense is currently on a 1 quarter shut out streak. I predict 3-0 Bobcats.
I like it BobcatsWin! I'm going make an even bolder prediction: OHIO wins 4-0!

Edit: That is my bold prediction for the score, even though it would also work for our record against Cato, if my wildass guess came true.
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Oh wow! We have Central, Northern Illinois, Bowling Green, Akron and arch rival Miami on our schedule - and Marshall is our Super Bowl. Think before you speak Marshall person. We would rather have wins against any of those teams than (an important) but really for us, a meaningless game against Marshall, as far as the MAC East is concerned. That is our first priority, so don't get it twisted!
This is where I'm at too, Sony although I think the vast majority of Ohio fans see Marshall as major rival. I'm in NE Ohio and speaking for just me personally, Marshall's not the team I despise the most. That honor goes to pretty much any team in the MAC East, especially Fiami. Obviously I want Ohio to win today but for me, the most important of Ohio's first three games by far was the Kent State game, not this game against Marshall.

Also, win or lose today, my props to the Ohio football team!! Opening the season with 3 straight road games is insanely difficult, especially with the caliber of OUr opponents so far. GO BOBCATS!!!
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FYI


As a DirecTV subscriber I just upgraded to receive this game. Tomorrow I will cancel this upgrade and only be billed for a prorated 1 day usage approx.$0.50.
It's a little trick I learned by just talking with the customer service rep.




GO BOBCATS
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The equipment managers have tweeted our uniform selection before each of the last two games. Nothing for this game - something new or just did not for this one...?

edit: nope - white helmets, green pants and white jerseys.
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Arkley reports Kristoff and Gibbons dressed and going through pre-game.
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Interestingly via my new ISP I can watch anything on replay, but live I can only watch ESPN3. Anything that is on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU, I can't watch live. Oh well, it's an improvement.
That means your ISP has ESPN3, but your TV provider doesn't have WatchESPN access. Replays are all through 3, live streams of the linear networks are "WatchESPN". Let me guess - DirecTV?
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Interestingly via my new ISP I can watch anything on replay, but live I can only watch ESPN3. Anything that is on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU, I can't watch live. Oh well, it's an improvement.
That means your ISP has ESPN3, but your TV provider doesn't have WatchESPN access. Replays are all through 3, live streams of the linear networks are "WatchESPN". Let me guess - DirecTV?

No, my TV is rarely used, so I have only what comes over the air.
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That'll do it!
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Is this Toledo's Defense? They drive over from Cincinnati??
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Bass might get an endorsement deal for jock straps, because his has been on the field the whole first quarter.
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Only enjoyment I'm getting is imagining which game Marshall will blow this season because of how -- predictably-- undisciplined they are. Whether it's penalties or turnovers, every year they mess up the little things needed to run through a schedule without a hiccup.
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My only joy watching this game is knowing i dont have to have any expectations each qeek. We will be the underdog in all but 2 of our MAC games. We are clearly giving up offensively. Why else are we down 20 and still playing conservatively? We will finish 3-9
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How do you let a team convert on 3rd and 30 twice in one drive? Bass MVP for the Herd.
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How did Miami score 27? Could be long year!
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WOW! Eight consecutive quarters without a touchdown! Go Sh!tcats!
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The offensive ineptitude of this team is staggering. I can't wait to hear the excuses for it this week.
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27-0 at the half!?!?!? What is going on with this team? I'm surprised the offense has been as bad as it is so far this year. We don't look like we'll compete well in the MAC.
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Fully expected a loss. Did not expect to be blown out.

Very hard to watch this debacle on both sides of the ball.
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Fully expected a loss. Did not expect to be blown out.

Very hard to watch this debacle on both sides of the ball.
The defense did it's part in the first two games, so I'm not going to fault them as much for this. Shouldn't give up so many 3rd downs, but the offense has done next to nothing after the 1st drive of the game which resulted in 0 points.
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Fully expected a loss. Did not expect to be blown out.

Very hard to watch this debacle on both sides of the ball.
The defense did it's part in the first two games, so I'm not going to fault them as much for this. Shouldn't give up so many 3rd downs, but the offense has done next to nothing after the 1st drive of the game which resulted in 0 points.
The defense has done nothing in this game. We are going to have a long year as I predicted earlier, but it looks worse than I expected. After the next 2 games, I don't really expect to win any games and I'm not sure about the next two.
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What gets me is that every segment of the team has regressed, kicking, returns, defense. Some of that is who has the better team, but some is on the coaches. No reason to be hopeful after seeing the collapse
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The attendance was just announced at 31,710. Ohio U sold 410 tickets to the game.
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The attendance was just announced at 31,710. Ohio U sold 410 tickets to the game.
Boom. Roasted.
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Dating back to the Buffalo game of 2013, the Ohio offense has scored a total of 114 points in eight games. That's a 14.25 average. Good Lord that is bad. Almost half of that total came in one game against UMass.
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Albin is getting beyond long in the tooth.
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We can officially say that we have a fumblelitis problem
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We can officially say that we have a fumblelitis problem

Was there a fumble in the last 45 seconds? I stopped watching (but Marshall had the ball).
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I love Daz. I'm so pleased that he's a student-athlete at Ohio. But we cannot progress on offense unless we play a bigger back, one who can get yards up the middle. One who gets yards after contact up the middle.

We have a young O-line squad. We're thin at tight end. So, how do we give ourselves the best chance to get yards up the middle? By running a guy who can bruise 'em up a little. Especially because our O-line creates some holes at times.

Because yards up the middle are key--ball control..open up the passing game.

This is a coaching fault. Must play the right players.

This is the same problem that we had last year.
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The attendance was just announced at 31,710. Ohio U sold 410 tickets to the game.
classy post.
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The attendance was just announced at 31,710. Ohio U sold 410 tickets to the game.
You're welcome?
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Is it basketball season yet??
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The attendance was just announced at 31,710. Ohio U sold 410 tickets to the game.
classy post.
I was not busting on you. I am sure Ohio U had more fans show up in Huntington, but they only got 450 tickets from Marshall. I have a relative who is an administer at Ohio U so I have no disdain for the Bobcats.
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Posters, don't bail on the season. It is about winning the MAC East. Let's see what Akron does against the Herd next week. Likely they'll do better than OHIO because I doubt Cato will be able to complete as many perfectly thrown TD's (but he may). The MAC East is weak.

Some posters on here are really clueless. What made some say this is arguably Frank's best defense after two games? Past defense when OHIO played in two MAC Championships played tough in December against outstanding QB's. OHIO goes to Columbus a few back and muffs a punt to lose to the Buckeyes yet this year's defense is arguably better than em all!

Having watched the Browns come back vs the Steelers and now the Herd dismantling the Cats. One thing is clear. When you can run the ball you can destroy any defense. The pass is so much easier to complete when holes are popping open then play action works and the pass rush is marginalized.

Herd goes undefeated and the Bobcats win the MAC East (because nobody else is very good)

I like both OHIO QB's and think it extremely valuable that both have been tested by stout defenses unlike any OHIO is likely to see in the East. Vick is tough as nails. The O Coordinator needs to have Vick come under center once in a while. Too many times on the TV screen, Marshall played way off our slot. If you took a quick snap it would be peanuts to just throw it out to the guy and get 4 yards a crack but from the shotgun those plays take too long for the snap the catch and the toss.

While this game was clearly a butt getting kicked, it was primarily from power running and perfectly executed BIG plays by guys that don't play in the MAC.
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Dating back to the Buffalo game of 2013, the Ohio offense has scored a total of 114 points in eight games. That's a 14.25 average. Good Lord that is bad. Almost half of that total came in one game against UMass.
Much of what happened at the end of last year was that the team let some adversity drain their enthusiasm (some on this year's team have used the word "quit"). What's going on this year is a young offense that hasn't gotten in sync yet. We knew going in that the D would have to carry the load through Sept, but it's very disappointing that things seem to be going backwards. I didn't see today's game, but it was clear from Russ's description that there wasn't much execution going on with the offense. I'm not sure how a WR pass route doesn't make it into the end zone from the three. A TD there might've changed the whole complexion of the game. And a 35% 3rd-down conversion rate isn't getting it done.

Terd is probably the best team we'll see this year, and they obviously wanted it more than we did. We've gone 1-2 in three straight road games, with six of the last nine at home. This team can still win 7-9 games this season, but the offense needs to get things together in a hurry.
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Pataskala--Vick was under desperate pressure on that short pass (3 yard line) on the first drive. He was lucky to get the pass off and not have it intercepted.

Classmate--You hit the nail on the head. The lack of innovation/creativity on offense is stunning. Two back sets, going under center, running the right guys inside (guys who have power to make yards in tough)--where is it? Another clue--the swing pass to the running back in motion is good for one try every two or three games; it can't be a basic/staple of the offense (probably 'cause db's roll with the guy in motion so are there to stop it).

To me, I'm almost ready to call for the firing of our offensive coordinator. We can't make our players bigger, stronger or faster than they are. But we can show evidence of thinking.

If I'm the opposition's D-coordinator, I'm ecstatic at the lack of thinking which OHIO shows on offense. Makes my job so much easier.


I'm sorry. But I still think that this young/inexperienced O-line has enough, is doing enough to get yards inside. Which will open up much of the rest of the offense. But inside yards are more likely to come from a 241 lb running back (stupd cow's 'rockhead) than 177 lbs.

I can take losing. Our guys kept playing. But I can't take lack of thinking and originality.


Also, might actually try to run true hurry-up plays once in a while. Rush to the line and get the snap off as fast as possible...catch the D unprepared. Equivalent to a quick-pitch or change of speeds in baseball.


Yeah, you've heard this from me many times before. But it's still true. WE JUST DON'T THINK ON OFFENSE.
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How did Miami score 27? Could be long year!
..... tried to tell you. Vanilla base defenses AND that kid made 3 lon perfext throws. There is no defense for the perfect throw. He made plays that would have scored on anyone.

Our defense is a good unit overall and will end the year in the top 30 or so. Which is fine and dandy when you are a top 10 offense.
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You stupd cow are so arrogant.

It's gonna be fun watching your disappointment due to overestimation as your season progresses. Mark it.
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