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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:33 PM
From Pat Forde's column:

COACH WHO SHOULD TAKE THE BUS TO WORK

Willie Taggart (39), South Florida. Last year was supposed to be the bottom-out season for the Bulls, skidding to 2-10 in Taggart’s first year on the job. But 2014 isn’t off to much of a start either – the Bulls are 1-2 and coming off a 32-point home loss to a North Carolina State team that has been unimpressive. USF is off to a historically bad start throwing the ball, currently completing just 35.7 percent of its passes. Gus Dorais and Knute Rockne might have done better than that in 1913. That isn’t just last in the nation by a large margin, it’s on pace to be the lowest completion percentage in the FBS since 1997, when Ohio completed a scarcely conceivable 27.6 percent of its passes. But similarly futile Connecticut comes to town Friday, offering a glimmer of hope.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:56 PM
I remember in the Grobe years we once led in the nation in another passing statistic. One year we had the fewest passes attempted in all of D1 football. That was when Kareem was QB, but I don't remember which year it was.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:37 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I remember in the Grobe years we once led in the nation in another passing statistic. One year we had the fewest passes attempted in all of D1 football. That was when Kareem was QB, but I don't remember which year it was.
Was that 1997 perhaps? We went to the Ohio-Akron game at the Rubber bowl that year (what a concrete dump that place was) and as I recall, Ohio didn't throw a pass the entire game. I had never seen a football game like that before, or since really. Akron's linebacker Jason Taylor was a man amongst boys that day.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:51 AM
Yeah, but Grobe won football games with that style when he had very very questionable talent early on.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:49 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
From Pat Forde's column:

COACH WHO SHOULD TAKE THE BUS TO WORK

Willie Taggart (39), South Florida. Last year was supposed to be the bottom-out season for the Bulls, skidding to 2-10 in Taggart’s first year on the job. But 2014 isn’t off to much of a start either – the Bulls are 1-2 and coming off a 32-point home loss to a North Carolina State team that has been unimpressive. USF is off to a historically bad start throwing the ball, currently completing just 35.7 percent of its passes. Gus Dorais and Knute Rockne might have done better than that in 1913. That isn’t just last in the nation by a large margin, it’s on pace to be the lowest completion percentage in the FBS since 1997, when Ohio completed a scarcely conceivable 27.6 percent of its passes. But similarly futile Connecticut comes to town Friday, offering a glimmer of hope.
Program hasn't been the same since Leavitt was let go. Has anyone seen the crowds they've been drawing?! Nothing worse than a few thousand folks in a 50k plus facility.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:34 PM
Being a UC fan I have been acquainted with USF for better part of ten years through their conference affiliations.

There are probably few programs that have been as up and down as USF has over the past five or six years. It wasn't that long ago that they were ranked as high as #2 in the country? They were poised to rise as the strongest Florida program not named Gators or Seminoles. Heck FSU was even a little down by their standards and Miami was stuck in neutral so USF was an attractive option for the state's best recruits.

They had some stud players like George Selvie. But they also seemed to start hot and fizzle out each year they were highly ranked. I remember being impressed with their rapid rise to success, given the young age of the program. Hopefully Taggart is given some time to build them back up.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:46 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
I remember in the Grobe years we once led in the nation in another passing statistic. One year we had the fewest passes attempted in all of D1 football. That was when Kareem was QB, but I don't remember which year it was.
Was that 1997 perhaps? We went to the Ohio-Akron game at the Rubber bowl that year (what a concrete dump that place was) and as I recall, Ohio didn't throw a pass the entire game. I had never seen a football game like that before, or since really. Akron's linebacker Jason Taylor was a man amongst boys that day.
Went to the game at EMU. We rolled up a ton of yards, attempted 2 passes(if that.) A lot 3 and long situations and we'd run for 9 or 10 yards for the first. Eastern knew what was coming and they couldn't do anything about it. Probably one of my favorite games.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/ohio/1997-sch...
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Posted: 9/18/2014 6:48 PM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
I remember in the Grobe years we once led in the nation in another passing statistic. One year we had the fewest passes attempted in all of D1 football. That was when Kareem was QB, but I don't remember which year it was.
Was that 1997 perhaps? We went to the Ohio-Akron game at the Rubber bowl that year (what a concrete dump that place was) and as I recall, Ohio didn't throw a pass the entire game. I had never seen a football game like that before, or since really. Akron's linebacker Jason Taylor was a man amongst boys that day.
I think you may have the right year. You're at least in +1 or -1 territory!
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:14 PM
This was arguably Grobe's best team mostly because it took over half the year for the nation to figure out just how bad Wilson was at passing. They all kept a Safety back and Kareem shredded then with his option ability. We started 8-1. We rushed for about 650 yards (anyone have the exact number) against EMU as hard as that is to believe. We beat Maryland. The only loss was 23-20 to a Kansas State team that spent weeks at #1 in an away game where we out-gained them by something like 250 yards. They had a bunch of fluke plays including a Hail Mary and a 60+ yard field goal if I recall. In game 7 we were Rushing all over BGSU just like every other mid-major we had played and leading 24-0 at halftime when they decided to not respect the possibility of a pass at all. They shut as down and the game ended 24-0. The next two games were against terrible Akron and NIU teams who might have been the two worst teams in 1A. Since they knew how to play us we barely won both and got to 8-1. Grobe decided to be conservative figuring he could beat bad teams anyway barely throwing at all. As someone pointed out that was the last time a Division 1 team went a game without attempting a pass. Miami and Marshall were two of the best mid-majors in the country and both only had 1 or 2 losses when we played if I recall and as dominant as this squad was for the first half of the year it had been exposed and had no chance to win either game.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:35 PM
Victory wrote:expand_more
This was arguably Grobe's best team mostly because it took over half the year for the nation to figure out just how bad Wilson was at passing. They all kept a Safety back and Kareem shredded then with his option ability. We started 8-1. We rushed for about 650 yards (anyone have the exact number) against EMU as hard as that is to believe. We beat Maryland. The only loss was 23-20 to a Kansas State team that spent weeks at #1 in an away game where we out-gained them by something like 250 yards. They had a bunch of fluke plays including a Hail Mary and a 60+ yard field goal if I recall. In game 7 we were Rushing all over BGSU just like every other mid-major we had played and leading 24-0 at halftime when they decided to not respect the possibility of a pass at all. They shut as down and the game ended 24-0. The next two games were against terrible Akron and NIU teams who might have been the two worst teams in 1A. Since they knew how to play us we barely won both and got to 8-1. Grobe decided to be conservative figuring he could beat bad teams anyway barely throwing at all. As someone pointed out that was the last time a Division 1 team went a game without attempting a pass. Miami and Marshall were two of the best mid-majors in the country and both only had 1 or 2 losses when we played if I recall and as dominant as this squad was for the first half of the year it had been exposed and had no chance to win either game.
I believe Ohio's rushing total in that EMU game was 612.

I do believe Ohio had a chance to win that Miami game. What hurt Ohio's chances was the loss of DE Andre Jackson to injury - his replacement simply wasn't fast or strong enough to stop Travis Prentice on his sweeps - and the suspension of Steve Hookfin. If you'll recall the game was close early in the 2nd half when the losses of Jackson and Hookfin took a noticeable toll.
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