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Posted: 9/23/2014 7:53 PM
So I've watched a little bit of the replay on ESPN3... and I have the same complaint that used to crop up with the STO broadcasts... What is with the complete lack of nat sound? It's like we have the broadcasters in a soundproof booth and next to ZERO sound from teh field and the crowd. It just sounds awful and makes the broadcast seem bush league.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:36 PM
I'll accept blame for that, as the crowd mike was usually placed right above where I usually sit.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:37 PM
It's watching a football game on the internet, it's crap like you expect it to be. It's worse than watching a game from the 1960's on ESPN classic. The MAC commissioner should be fired if this is the best tv deal he can get. Espn3 from September till November then all the MAC teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in empty stadiums for the entire nation to see. It's embarrassing.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:18 PM
It's because the ESPN3-only games are throw-ins to fill up commitments to the G5 conferences. They're put on with as little expense as possible. Just two low-paid announcers, no sideline reporter -- not even a student. About three cameras, maybe not even operated by living, breathing human beings. Few graphics. Maybe three people in the truck or whatever they use to control the broadcast. I'm surprised they even have a halftime show from the stadium; last year they would throw it back to some studio somewhere where they would fill the time with live look-ins from other games. We're low on the totem pole, so we're not worth field mics.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:35 PM
You always have the option of listening to Russ and Rob.

My only complaint about the webcast is actually related to when you watch the delayed replay. I wish there were fast forward/or backwards capability so you could skip the gaps, or parts you don't want to see, and replay the plays you do want to see. I like to watch the same plays several times, sometimes, so I can see how they unfolded, and who did a good/bad job. I understand that they don't want the stream to be copyable, but I wish there was some way around this.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:19 AM
Beat Michigan wrote:expand_more
It's watching a football game on the internet, it's crap like you expect it to be. It's worse than watching a game from the 1960's on ESPN classic. The MAC commissioner should be fired if this is the best tv deal he can get. Espn3 from September till November then all the MAC teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in empty stadiums for the entire nation to see. It's embarrassing.
If there was a demand for it, it would be set up differently. Stop acting like there is a better option and look at the new TV deal we have as well.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:37 AM
A different viewpoint: I have no complaint because I live about 2800 miles from Athens and I've seen every one of our games for what seems like the last 6-8 years.

It wasn't so long ago that even getting a radiocast was a treat.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 9:05 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
A different viewpoint: I have no complaint because I live about 2800 miles from Athens and I've seen every one of our games for what seems like the last 6-8 years.

It wasn't so long ago that even getting a radiocast was a treat.
Probably only about 10-11 years ago that radio and TV was not a regular option for EVERY home game.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 11:39 AM
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It's watching a football game on the internet, it's crap like you expect it to be. It's worse than watching a game from the 1960's on ESPN classic. The MAC commissioner should be fired if this is the best tv deal he can get. Espn3 from September till November then all the MAC teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in empty stadiums for the entire nation to see. It's embarrassing.
If there was a demand for it, it would be set up differently. Stop acting like there is a better option and look at the new TV deal we have as well.
C-USA and MWC TV deals are head and shoulders over the MAC. MWC maybe but C-USA? We basically have the same deal as the upstart Sun Belt. Does the MAC have a regional deal for when the Conference games start on a real TV like STO or anything?

What NEW TV deal? I missed it.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:00 PM
Beat Michigan wrote:expand_more
It's watching a football game on the internet, it's crap like you expect it to be. It's worse than watching a game from the 1960's on ESPN classic. The MAC commissioner should be fired if this is the best tv deal he can get. Espn3 from September till November then all the MAC teams play on Tuesday and Wednesday nights in empty stadiums for the entire nation to see. It's embarrassing.
If there was a demand for it, it would be set up differently. Stop acting like there is a better option and look at the new TV deal we have as well.
C-USA and MWC TV deals are head and shoulders over the MAC. MWC maybe but C-USA? We basically have the same deal as the upstart Sun Belt. Does the MAC have a regional deal for when the Conference games start on a real TV like STO or anything?

What NEW TV deal? I missed it.
Here's the latest story on The New Deal (sorry, I watched all seven episodes of "The Roosevelts" on PBS -- had to watch the last one online 'cause it conflicted with last Saturday's game): http://www.thepostathens.com/news/article_fdcf56ca-436f-1...
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:39 PM
I don't think this will improve TV time its just adding years and money to the current deal it appears. Most games will still get kicked to ESPN3 except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) and Tuesday/Wednesday nights in November. The MAC should shop for some secondary deals with CBS Sports, Fox and NBC for when ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN News does not pick up games. The MWC & American has deals with ESPN, CBS & Fox, C-USA has deals with CBS and Fox. It gives you more options to get on TV.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:18 PM
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. . . except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) . . . .
Except sometimes, this year BG hosted Indiana and CMU hosted Syracuse. If memory serves, the BG-Indiana tilt was on the B1G network and CMU-Syracuse game was on ESPNU.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:39 PM
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. . . except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) . . . .
Except sometimes, this year BG hosted Indiana and CMU hosted Syracuse. If memory serves, the BG-Indiana tilt was on the B1G network and CMU-Syracuse game was on ESPNU.
BG/Indy was on ESPNU, CMU/Cuse was ESPN News.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 4:14 PM
I don't dispute the TV game if you are hosting a power 5 school. Everyone of those will be on. But what about conference games? Gonna have to wait till Tuesday/Wednesday in November to see any of those.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 9:06 PM
TheRealMikeDrake wrote:expand_more
. . . except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) . . . .
Except sometimes, this year BG hosted Indiana and CMU hosted Syracuse. If memory serves, the BG-Indiana tilt was on the B1G network and CMU-Syracuse game was on ESPNU.
BG/Indy was on ESPNU, CMU/Cuse was ESPN News.
Thanks for the real skinny!
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:15 AM
TheRealMikeDrake wrote:expand_more
. . . except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) . . . .
Except sometimes, this year BG hosted Indiana and CMU hosted Syracuse. If memory serves, the BG-Indiana tilt was on the B1G network and CMU-Syracuse game was on ESPNU.
BG/Indy was on ESPNU, CMU/Cuse was ESPN News.
Toledo also hosted Missouri on either ESPN or ESPN2.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 12:59 PM
Beat Michigan wrote:expand_more
I don't think this will improve TV time its just adding years and money to the current deal it appears. Most games will still get kicked to ESPN3 except at the beginning of the year when a Big School hosts a MAC school (which doesn't fall under the MAC contract cause we are not the home team) and Tuesday/Wednesday nights in November. The MAC should shop for some secondary deals with CBS Sports, Fox and NBC for when ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU or ESPN News does not pick up games. The MWC & American has deals with ESPN, CBS & Fox, C-USA has deals with CBS and Fox. It gives you more options to get on TV.
I don't think Fox is interested. Otherwise we wouldn't have switched from STO (an FSN affiliate) to god-awful TWC last year. CBS is already clogged with MWC and CUSA, so they might not be interested. I'm not thrilled about NBC for anything but Sunday night NFL.

The MAC's real problem is that we don't have the primary university in a larger TV market. Buffalo is the only "home" school in a major market. Toledo, Akron and WMU are in much smaller markets. The rest are either secondary or nonexistent in a TV market. It's all about eyes on the tube, and as your market presence dwindles, so does the networks' interest. That said, I'd still like to see ESPN package a MAC conference Saturday game of the week for sale to local TV stations and cable outlets. Channel 6 in Columbus is showing a CUSA package on one of its subchannels, which doesn't get great ratings but still gives CUSA a presence in Columbus. With all the MAC grads in the area, the MAC should be here instead.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 1:29 PM
The MAC, through ESPN, did a locally syndicated over the air package of I believe six conference games a season until last year. I have to think that it, like the STO package, disappeared for a reason.
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:27 PM
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The MAC, through ESPN, did a locally syndicated over the air package of I believe six conference games a season until last year. I have to think that it, like the STO package, disappeared for a reason.
The reason was Time Warner Cable. They wanted the conference package for themselves.

The STO package disappeared because FSN bought STO. FSN decided years ago -- probably at the prompting of the home office -- to dump the MAC in favor of Big East/Big 12/Pac 12 football and Big East/A-10 b-ball.
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