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Posted: 10/21/2024 2:03 PM
Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.
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Posted: 10/21/2024 4:01 PM
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Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.
Unless we find a field general it won’t matter who is trying to run the ball. Both QBs so far this year are not the answer. Put in one of the other two who both have the arm to open up the playbook and stop playing around with this idiocy of trying to prove themselves right with the two they brought in from the portal. And get rid of this bizzare offensive scheme that takes up every second of the clock… we are giving defences too much time to get ready in every play…
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Posted: 10/21/2024 4:04 PM
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Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.
Unless we find a field general it won’t matter who is trying to run the ball. Both QBs so far this year are not the answer. Put in one of the other two who both have the arm to open up the playbook and stop playing around with this idiocy of trying to prove themselves right with the two they brought in from the portal. And get rid of this bizzare offensive scheme that takes up every second of the clock… we are giving defences too much time to get ready in every play…
I agree on the timing on the plays. You need to have snaps at different timing intervals to keep the defense guessing.
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Posted: 10/21/2024 6:16 PM
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Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.
Unless we find a field general it won’t matter who is trying to run the ball. Both QBs so far this year are not the answer. Put in one of the other two who both have the arm to open up the playbook and stop playing around with this idiocy of trying to prove themselves right with the two they brought in from the portal. And get rid of this bizzare offensive scheme that takes up every second of the clock… we are giving defences too much time to get ready in every play…
By running down the clock it just delays the inevitable...three and out...
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Posted: 10/21/2024 7:10 PM
RufusCat09 wrote:expand_more
Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.
Unless we find a field general it won’t matter who is trying to run the ball. Both QBs so far this year are not the answer. Put in one of the other two who both have the arm to open up the playbook and stop playing around with this idiocy of trying to prove themselves right with the two they brought in from the portal. And get rid of this bizzare offensive scheme that takes up every second of the clock… we are giving defences too much time to get ready in every play…
By running down the clock it just delays the inevitable...three and out...
Well… there is that
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Posted: 10/22/2024 12:55 PM
RufusCat09 wrote:expand_more
Albin said he's going to be out for an extended period of time with a lower body injury. Ouch.

Insert Rickey Hunt, Nolan McCormick, and Duncan Brune. That O-line better step up.

ExCat21 probably called it right. After it happened, he said it looked to him like a high ankle sprain. Those usually take 6-8 weeks to heal, unfortunately. That means he will be out at least until Ball State, but he would probably be able to play in the MACC and the bowl game. ;)

Are both starting tackles still out, by the way? I know some complained that Ohio didn't replace the OL very well with portal players, but for me the question is, where is the depth? Ohio only lost a couple of linemen to the portal, and they have a lot of guys that they recruited who have been at Ohio for years.
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Posted: 10/22/2024 1:09 PM
Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
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Posted: 10/22/2024 1:51 PM
So far this year, average yards/carry:
Tyus 5.4 (long carry 46)
Hunt 3.9 (long carry 59)
Brune 4.1 (long carry 8)
McCormick 1.0

Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down.

If you exclude each running back's longest carry, you get:
Tyus 4.2 yards/carry on his other carries
Hunt 2.7 yards/carry on his other carries
Brune 3.7 yards/carry on his other carries
McCormick has only one carry
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Posted: 10/22/2024 6:22 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
So far this year, average yards/carry:
Tyus 5.4 (long carry 46)
Hunt 3.9 (long carry 59)
Brune 4.1 (long carry 8)
McCormick 1.0

Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down.

If you exclude each running back's longest carry, you get:
Tyus 4.2 yards/carry on his other carries
Hunt 2.7 yards/carry on his other carries
Brune 3.7 yards/carry on his other carries
McCormick has only one carry
Tyus is 5.06 /carry discounting his 46 yard long carry.


One stat I’ve been following this year is TFL by the other team. So far through 7 games, we given up 47 on 449 plays. We given up 16 sacks, so the others are receptions losing yards or running plays. So we lose yardage on about 11% of our plays(excluding offensive penalties which I haven’t looked at). It doesn’t make for a bunch of long sustained drives.

Another stat of interest- we’ve had 14 TO verses 5 for our opposition . Ouch.
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Posted: 10/23/2024 9:16 AM
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So far this year, average yards/carry:
Tyus 5.4 (long carry 46)
Hunt 3.9 (long carry 59)
Brune 4.1 (long carry 8)
McCormick 1.0

Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down.

If you exclude each running back's longest carry, you get:
Tyus 4.2 yards/carry on his other carries
Hunt 2.7 yards/carry on his other carries
Brune 3.7 yards/carry on his other carries
McCormick has only one carry
Tyus is 5.06 /carry discounting his 46 yard long carry.


One stat I’ve been following this year is TFL by the other team. So far through 7 games, we given up 47 on 449 plays. We given up 16 sacks, so the others are receptions losing yards or running plays. So we lose yardage on about 11% of our plays(excluding offensive penalties which I haven’t looked at). It doesn’t make for a bunch of long sustained drives.

Another stat of interest- we’ve had 14 TO verses 5 for our opposition . Ouch.
The turnovers concern me the most. This never seems to be something that changes midseason. We seem to be one extreme or the other for the year. This year we're the bad one.
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Posted: 10/23/2024 10:44 AM
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[QUOTE=colobobcat66] ...
One stat I’ve been following this year is TFL by the other team.
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Another stat of interest- we’ve had 14 TO verses 5 for our opposition . Ouch.

I agree wholeheartedly. TFL are a drive killer, as are turnovers. That was what made Kalvin McRae and A. J. Ouellette such key backs. They almost always had positive yards, and almost never fumbled.
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Posted: 10/24/2024 3:49 PM
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. . . Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down. . . .
Channeling your inner Woody Hayes, it would appear! ;-) That's exactly the philosophy behind the four-yards-and-cloud-of-dust offense. [Note: The original expression was "a cloud of dust and four yards" coined by a BYU coach to describe the Split-T offense. Hayes later corrupted it into "three yards and a cloud of dust." However you express it the meaning is clearly three short gains for enough to get a first down on third down most of the time.]
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Posted: 10/24/2024 8:25 PM
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. . . Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down. . . .
Channeling your inner Woody Hayes, it would appear! ;-) That's exactly the philosophy behind the four-yards-and-cloud-of-dust offense. [Note: The original expression was "a cloud of dust and four yards" coined by a BYU coach to describe the Split-T offense. Hayes later corrupted it into "three yards and a cloud of dust." However you express it the meaning is clearly three short gains for enough to get a first down on third down most of the time.]
If you are speaking of Coach Hayes, it's actually "Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust". Well documented, and the title of a book about Coach Hayes, written by Bill Levy. I have a signed copy if you'd like to read it OCF.

Happy to have you, back, just remember I still am your fact checker, and regardless of how often you say something, doesn't make it true to the educated.
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Posted: 10/24/2024 9:37 PM
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Happy to have you, back, just remember I still am your fact checker, and regardless of how often you say something, doesn't make it true to the educated.
Does it make it true to his MAGA (Make Athens Great Again) cult followers?
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Posted: 10/25/2024 9:57 AM
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. . . Where rushing is concerned, getting positive yardage every play is as important as long carries. If you had a running back who made 4 yards ever carry, never more, never less, the offense could never be stopped except by penalties. At the other extreme, making 31 yards on one play, then 1 yard a play for the next 9 plays also will average 4 yards a carry, but you will make only one first down. . . .
Channeling your inner Woody Hayes, it would appear! ;-) That's exactly the philosophy behind the four-yards-and-cloud-of-dust offense. [Note: The original expression was "a cloud of dust and four yards" coined by a BYU coach to describe the Split-T offense. Hayes later corrupted it into "three yards and a cloud of dust." However you express it the meaning is clearly three short gains for enough to get a first down on third down most of the time.]
If you are speaking of Coach Hayes, it's actually "Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust". Well documented, and the title of a book about Coach Hayes, written by Bill Levy. I have a signed copy if you'd like to read it OCF.

Happy to have you, back, just remember I still am your fact checker, and regardless of how often you say something, doesn't make it true to the educated.
If you'll fact check your fact check you'll see that I mentioned the Hayes version in my note. I haven't read the Levy book, and that might interesting. I do have an autographed copy of Hayes' own book -- "Hotline to Victory"! Are you familiar with that one?
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Posted: 10/25/2024 9:59 AM
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Happy to have you, back, just remember I still am your fact checker, and regardless of how often you say something, doesn't make it true to the educated.
Does it make it true to his MAGA (Make Athens Great Again) cult followers?
That's actually kind of funny. Glad to see that your sense of humor has improved some in the last year.
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Posted: 10/25/2024 10:00 AM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
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Posted: 10/25/2024 8:32 PM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
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Posted: 10/26/2024 3:00 AM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
Yeah, because we should be snapping at 28 on the play clock and running 115 plays a game with this offense. Put down your controller and turn off the X-Box. That is not the make up of this team with its skill set.
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Posted: 10/30/2024 7:34 PM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
Yeah, because we should be snapping at 28 on the play clock and running 115 plays a game with this offense. Put down your controller and turn off the X-Box. That is not the make up of this team with its skill set.
True. But I do hope we run some no huddle against Toledo's defense to catch them off guard later in November.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 8:57 AM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
Yeah, because we should be snapping at 28 on the play clock and running 115 plays a game with this offense. Put down your controller and turn off the X-Box. That is not the make up of this team with its skill set.
Now do last season.

This is an issue in philosophy and urgency, not the roster.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 11:31 AM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
Yeah, because we should be snapping at 28 on the play clock and running 115 plays a game with this offense. Put down your controller and turn off the X-Box. That is not the make up of this team with its skill set.
Now do last season.

This is an issue in philosophy and urgency, not the roster.

I specifically asked a team staffer if they'd ever consider speeding up the pace of plays/snaps and he replied, "I hope not. It's a big part of why we're successful offensively."

I should have asked why but didn't. Can anyone explain this to me?
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Posted: 10/31/2024 12:32 PM
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Clap. Clap. Clap. -1 Yard Carry.
Need that on a shirt.

Clap. Clap. Clock down to 3. Clap. Clap. Clock down to 1. Snap. Handoff directly into the pile.
Absolute best Post of the year. Not only would it be a great shirt, but a great crowd chant should the game get away from us. Do you think that the coaching staff would catch on to the fact that not only is the opposing defense clued into what the Bobcat Offense is doing, but the entire fan base as well?
Yeah, because we should be snapping at 28 on the play clock and running 115 plays a game with this offense. Put down your controller and turn off the X-Box. That is not the make up of this team with its skill set.
Now do last season.

This is an issue in philosophy and urgency, not the roster.

I specifically asked a team staffer if they'd ever consider speeding up the pace of plays/snaps and he replied, "I hope not. It's a big part of why we're successful offensively."

I should have asked why but didn't. Can anyone explain this to me?
We thrive on long possessions and keeping the ball out of the other teams hands. As a RUN-BALANCED offense, it's not like a video game where you can switch playstyles to RUN and SHOOT, SPREAD, etc. We don't have the personnel to run those effectively (scat backs, etc). I like Pistol and the misdirection built in it. My only wish is that we use the TEs more on misdirection pass plays. It opens up more run lanes on future downs.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 12:36 PM
When you consider how much Parker runs, it's probably best for him to have a few extra ticks to catch his breath.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 2:57 PM
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I specifically asked a team staffer if they'd ever consider speeding up the pace of plays/snaps and he replied, "I hope not. It's a big part of why we're successful offensively."

I should have asked why but didn't. Can anyone explain this to me?

It's not like they are just killing time. During long snap count, the QB is surveying the defense, and making a decision about whether to audible into another play that might work better. The fact that they audible as much as they do is part of why a QB new to the system often doesn't become successful immediately.
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