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Posted: 10/4/2014 7:31 PM
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Vick
Sprague
Windham
Duckworth
Other?
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Posted: 10/4/2014 8:45 PM
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Just out of curiousity, why did Windham not see the field? Sprague was a complete disaster and we don't even give Windham a chance?

This staff never fails to leave you scratching your head.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 8:57 PM
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Burrow.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:44 PM
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Vick, if he's healthy. If not, Sprague -- but have Windham ready if there's a repeat of today. BG has a porous defense, so we should be able to score. I don't think Windham has earned a start yet. Remember, he was in for the entire 4th Q vs EIU and had drives of 3 plays for 1 yd and 10 plays for 43 yds. No pts, and his average yds per pass and per carry were similar to JD's.

Remember also that today was only JD's second start and his first vs a 1A team. I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:50 PM
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Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Vick, if he's healthy. If not, Sprague -- but have Windham ready if there's a repeat of today. BG has a porous defense, so we should be able to score. I don't think Windham has earned a start yet. Remember, he was in for the entire 4th Q vs EIU and had drives of 3 plays for 1 yd and 10 plays for 43 yds. No pts, and his average yds per pass and per carry were similar to JD's.

Remember also that today was only JD's second start and his first vs a 1A team. I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
How quickly things turn!

Vick? Really? He would be there but he is hurt.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 9:58 PM
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Vick, if he's healthy. If not, Sprague -- but have Windham ready if there's a repeat of today. BG has a porous defense, so we should be able to score. I don't think Windham has earned a start yet. Remember, he was in for the entire 4th Q vs EIU and had drives of 3 plays for 1 yd and 10 plays for 43 yds. No pts, and his average yds per pass and per carry were similar to JD's.

Remember also that today was only JD's second start and his first vs a 1A team. I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
How quickly things turn!

Vick? Really? He would be there but he is hurt.
Note that I said "if he's healthy."
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:03 PM
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Vick, if he's healthy. If not, Sprague -- but have Windham ready if there's a repeat of today. BG has a porous defense, so we should be able to score. I don't think Windham has earned a start yet. Remember, he was in for the entire 4th Q vs EIU and had drives of 3 plays for 1 yd and 10 plays for 43 yds. No pts, and his average yds per pass and per carry were similar to JD's.

Remember also that today was only JD's second start and his first vs a 1A team. I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
How quickly things turn!

Vick? Really? He would be there but he is hurt.
Note that I said "if he's healthy."
Note, I said he is hurt, he was hurt today, he will be hurt next week, and he will be hurt for the next several weeks.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:12 PM
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Vick, if he's healthy. If not, Sprague -- but have Windham ready if there's a repeat of today. BG has a porous defense, so we should be able to score. I don't think Windham has earned a start yet. Remember, he was in for the entire 4th Q vs EIU and had drives of 3 plays for 1 yd and 10 plays for 43 yds. No pts, and his average yds per pass and per carry were similar to JD's.

Remember also that today was only JD's second start and his first vs a 1A team. I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
How quickly things turn!

Vick? Really? He would be there but he is hurt.
Note that I said "if he's healthy."
Note, I said he is hurt, he was hurt today, he will be hurt next week, and he will be hurt for the next several weeks.
That's your assumption, and you may be right. But Vick was listed among the possible responses, so I included him if he's healthy.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:14 PM
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Yeah, sorry, not an assumption, but rather an understanding of the mechanism of injury and the time table of such injuries. It's really pretty simple math.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 10:15 PM
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I would start Sprague and stay with him as long as possible. At this point all we would be doing is auditioning Windham as Vick's backup for the rest of the year. I hate completely giving up on Sprague so soon since he has not had very many snaps throughout his career.

The apocalypse would need to occur before I would consider burning Duckworth's redshirt. He did not play as a HS senior last year.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 11:14 PM
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This thread shows just how poor our recruiting of the QB position has been of late. We do not have a "ready to go" 1A QB on the roster. We knew this would be painful but we are now seeing just how bad it is when you do not have a ready QB. Obviously, with TT the starter for three years nobody of much value wanted to come our way. So, this is what we have. Even with vick things would not be much better.

That leads us to an O-line with 3 frosh starting? Are you kidding? just another position where recruiting has been poor.

Then we go to a defense where we have 8 returners and "solid" players two deep. Again, are you kidding?

Our talent is bottom half of the MAC and the results have shown that the last 25 games or so.

I won't even go into our O and D schemes. They are simple and easy to counter.
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Posted: 10/4/2014 11:57 PM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Burrow.
Easy there Alan, lets avoid the obvious NCAA sacnctions:
Jim Burrow is a coach, not a player, and exhausted his eligibility long ago. This isn't the NHL (where coaches can just lace up and leap out onto the ice)

Joe Burrow is a highschool student. Regardless where he goes to play college ball, in the fall of his senior year he isn't eligible.

I like the idea, but unfortunately NCAA rules don't allow us to hijack Joe Burrow's commitment by simply inserting him into the lineup while he's a high school senior.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 12:28 AM
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Did Vick travel to CMU today?
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Posted: 10/5/2014 1:05 AM
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Did Vick travel to CMU today?
Yes
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Posted: 10/5/2014 1:16 AM
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I would start Sprague. But the bigger question is can Vick even go if needed next week?
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Posted: 10/5/2014 8:03 AM
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Pataskala wrote:expand_more
I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
And where was Robbie Walker for most of the game? He carried the ball a couple of times late in both halves, but that was it.
Last Edited: 10/5/2014 8:04:28 AM by A-townBound
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Posted: 10/5/2014 12:15 PM
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Against EIU Windham never really got a chance to throw the ball. He's thrown it just 5 times all year. From what I hear he has a much better arm than Sprague...of course that doesn't say much.

Again I ask, why did we not bring in Windham and let him throw the ball? Even when the game was out of reach, it seems like a perfect time to audition Windham. Its just dumb.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 1:51 PM
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A-townBound wrote:expand_more
I put a lot of what happened today on whoever decided that Daz is an every down back. He's not. He can't get the tough yds. He also had a couple dropped passes. I think Edmonds was in for just one play: the TD. Where was he the rest of the day?
And where was Robbie Walker for most of the game? He carried the ball a couple of times late in both halves, but that was it.
The important thing is that we albined Walker. Walker had a 17 yard play. So, or course, the next play went right back to him..it gained nothing. It ALWAYS happens. We are SO VERY EASY TO DEFENSE.
Last Edited: 10/5/2014 1:52:18 PM by Monroe Slavin
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Posted: 10/5/2014 2:25 PM
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This wasn't a loss that falls on who was or was not at QB for us. We got beat every which way out there. If Vick is not at or near 100% then he should not play. In our offense and for it to be effective with him, he needs to run and make plays with his feet. That's the risk you take using a QB that way (see TT). A healthy Sprague is better than a dinging up Vick in that case. And it would be in Vick's best interest to not return until he is ready to go. There is a lot of football to be played yet this season.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:57 PM
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This wasn't a loss that falls on who was or was not at QB for us. We got beat every which way out there.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 9:39 AM
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Daz Patterson, because I'd really rather he not start at running back
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Posted: 10/6/2014 11:43 AM
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Did Vick travel to CMU today?

Yes

Vick travelled, but I would say, as a Captain, not a player. He was still on crutches. Solich said he is making progress, but he is still "weeks away".
Last Edited: 10/6/2014 12:08:38 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 12:11 PM
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Sprague is really the only option while Vick is still hurt. I wouldn't mind to see Windham get some snaps though, at minimum just to give the defense a different look.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:31 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
Did Vick travel to CMU today?

Yes

Vick travelled, but I would say, as a Captain, not a player. He was still on crutches. Solich said he is making progress, but he is still "weeks away".
When did Solich say that? Recently or when the injury occurred?
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:34 PM
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Sorry, I should have given a source. It was from Arkley's twitter, and was from a few hours ago.
https://twitter.com/JasonAmessenger
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