You are exactly correct that I did not state that correctly. I should have said "If any team is over .500, there must also be at least one team under .500." If I am going to rely on mathematical logic, I should be using the precise language to express it, so I apologize.


Yes, it seems that about 80 teams have at least a .500 record each year. Without looking, I'd guess that about 75% of the P5 teams achieve that goal. If there are 64 P5 teams, that would be about 49 P5 teams with a .500 or better record. That would mean that about 31 of the 61 or so G5 teams have a .500 or better record.

Thus, having a .500 record or better puts a team in the top half of G5 teams, so it seems it is at least somewhat of an achievement. Now, bringing Alan back into it, he said:

Where, among the 61 or so G5 teams does Ohio rank in terms of committing resources to football? You can't really answer his question without that additional information. Is Ohio near the top in terms of resources devoted to athletics? Or nearer to the bottom? Again, without looking it up, my guess is that Ohio is in the bottom third in terms of resources committed, and in the top half in terms of results, and that's this year.

We still need the answer to the question of how many G5 teams win .500 in their down years, i.e. how many have managed to be .500 or better for at least 6 consecutive years.

This doesn't really answer my question though. According to RPI, none of the teams we've defeated are in the top 100 in CFB (including FCS). And I'd say 3 of our 5 wins are against teams that are downright awful (Kent, Idaho, E. Ill).

Not to mention that, as we've all noticed, the MAC East has gotten clobbered when they play the West.

This is why this bowl game talk and W-L record talk is nonsense. Who cares if we beat a bunch of terrible teams and fall backwards into a bowl? Thats nothing to get excited about.

Here's my point: I'd rather lose a close game to NIU/WMU/CMU/Toledo/etc... and MISS A BOWL GAME, then get blown out by those teams but then pat ourselves on the back when we beat teams like Idaho, Kent and E. Ill.

The best thing that happened this season IMHO is our close lost to NIU. It didn't help our record and didn't help our bowl chances...but it was a fun and competitive game with a good team. Thats what its all about!

Bartender, I will have whatever Paul is having.

It would be better to go to a bowl to keep the bowl streak alive which can be touted to recruits for extra time and gifts. On the other side I know if we go to a bowl game and especially if we then lose it we will be eviscerated by The Post and the faculty of the school for the costs that will be associated with the trip. So I am kind of torn, as much as I don't care for the complaints against Athletics this would be one of the easier extra costs to complain about. And we don't need any more bad press with them already complaining about why does Athletics need an Athletic Academic Facility.

Regarding the academic center, why not go to the library?

Regarding playing in a bowl, some might say a meaningless bowl, I'm not in favor of it at 6-6. Maybe if we were 9-3 or 10-2 we might have something to prove and it might be against a Big 6 opponent. It's the equivalent of playing in the also ran tournaments in hoops if you don't make the NIT or NCAA. The season is long enough and there is nothing to be gained by playing. I know the coaches wouldn't agree with me.

Maybe if the kids didn't have to practice for another month, we wouldn't need an academic center.

At the end of a long year, maybe the extra practice is good, maybe it isn't. For example, we went to a bowl game in football last year and this year we struggled. Did it help? If you go back and look at our post season and then the following year's results, you can't make a case for it. Let's face it, the coaches are evaluated on post season play. If they have a chance to play, they will. So, the argument is moot. We won't ever turn it down.

If there is an offer, the seniors, who I really like, deserve to end on as positive a note as they can. Plus, I would enjoy another bowl with Ohio. Also, there is a streak of bowls running. In any kind of a streak there are close calls. Teams with 20-30 straight bowls have seasons like this in the streak somewhere. Winning is not always pretty, but, it need always be appreciated.

After tonight's game, I have to agree. I loved Ohio's grit and determination in coming back, the never-say-die attitude they had. That attitude will serve them well next year.

But, that was a bad, bad team Ohio just beat, a team that greatly helped Ohio come back. If Ohio were down 21 points to WMU, BG, NIU, Toledo or CMU there's no way Ohio would be able to come back and win. As was said on Seinfeld, let's just end the season "on a high note" with the Miami win.

The administration is trying to use its resources wisely and the academic center is a way to justify some more spending on the stadium. Otherwise nothing happens with the end zones. These fantasy ideas of tearing down Peden and rebuilding it come with a 100 million dollar price tag. The naming rights are probably going to be in conjunction with new scoreboards with the sponsors name on it in the Convo and Peden. The academic center is going to be used to court donors so I see the next goal of finding a Boone Pickens so that when or if Saul takes us to the Sweet 16 we can keep him.

USATODAY, today says Texas St and Cal IN and OHIO out. Looks like the season is over. Congrats to the team and staff on getting to 500 for the season and I hope L.C. is right about next year. Still looking for one more MACC before my time runs out!

If Texas State beats us out getting to a bowl, I've got some land for sale...

Alan and BTC are saying that this is because we are going to refuse any invitations. Perhaps, USAToday knows that we are not going to accept.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/gene-collier/2014/11/2...

Gene Collier from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette nails it.