I don't follow the computer polls all that closely, but I saw where Ohio State beat #8 Michigan State on the road by double digits in November and then beat formerly #13, now #18, Wisconsin 59-0 at a neutral site.
Did TCU have any road or neutral site wins against the current top 10 or top 20?
I know Baylor had a mid-season home win against #6 TCU and a late home win against #11 Kansas State.
I would imagine the split champion issue hurt the Big 12 as well.
Besides the split champion issue, however, it seems to me that TCU doesn't even have a legitimate argument here unless you like a mass of mediocre wins over a couple of very strong wins - or I guess unless you like to compare losses. Notre Dame (for a week).
As for Baylor v. Ohio State, I would suppose it comes down to:
Baylor - 1 dramatic win against #6 at home and one comfortable win against #11 at home
v.
Ohio state - 1 comfortable win against #8 on the road and 1 blowout win against #18 at a neutral site.
As for losses between Ohio State and Baylor, not a lot of difference between WVU and VT.
The same MSU team who lost to Oregon by 19 and the same Wisconsin team who lost to LSU who had 4 losses in the SEC and lost to auburn by 35. No win in the big 10 can be considered good. that conference was a joke this year. If that's not enough let's look at games played ageists similar competition. TCU beat Minnesota by 23. Where OSU only won by 7.
So you believe that Champions are determined in September and that the transitive property applies to college football (never mind home or neutral v. away and nice weather v. freezing snow storm).
Well, according to the transitive property, Ohio State should beat Alabama by 2 touchdowns. Bama beat WVU by 10. WVU beat Maryland by 3. So, Bama is 13 better than Maryland. Ohio State beat Maryland by 25.
Wisconsin beat Maryland by 45. Ohio State beat Maryland by 25. Therefore, Wisconsin would beat Ohio State by 20.
This is fun.
Obviously, there is no objective way to select these teams. This is why I am 100% against two teams ever making it from one conference. Too few of these teams actually play head-to-head so you can't "know" who is better. You may be an idiot and think you know, but you don't.
All you can do is look at as many DIRECT objective factors as possible and make a pick.
59-0 against a top 15 (Yes, it lost to LSU by blowing a 17 point lead after its 2 starting DTs went down and Gordon went out of the game, with it's 2nd team QB) is an exclamation point and it capped 2 rather "big" wins, and 3 top 25 wins, in the last month.
Ohio State was an undisputed conference champion. Ohio State is a top 5 recruiter and always in the top 5 to top 10 NFL producer.
The Big 12 named a split champion, and it's traditional powers with the top shelf NFL talent are down.
Last Edited: 12/8/2014 6:20:38 PM by BobcatGoldthwait