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Posted: 10/21/2014 3:43 PM
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With Ohio chasing the possibility of bowl eligibility, they will have some competition once (if) they get there. These are the teams which have qualified for bowls. I will update this weekly.

- East Carolina (AAC)
- Memphis (AAC)
- Cincinnati (AAC)
- UCF (AAC)
- Houston (AAC)

- Florida State (ACC)
- Louisville (ACC)
- Duke (ACC)
- Clemson (ACC)
- Ga. Tech (ACC)
- Boston College (ACC)
- Miami (ACC)
- Notre Dame (Ind./ACC)
- NC State (ACC)
- North Carolina (ACC)
- Va. Tech (ACC)
- Pittsburgh (ACC)

- Baylor (Big 12)
- Kansas State (Big 12)
- TCU (Big 12)
- West Virginia (Big 12)
- Oklahoma (Big 12)
- Texas (Big 12)

- Michigan State (Big Ten)
- Minnesota (Big Ten)
- Nebraska (Big Ten)
- Ohio State (Big Ten)
- Maryland (Big Ten)
- Iowa (Big Ten)
- Wisconsin (Big Ten)
- Penn State (Big Ten)
- Rutgers (Big Ten)
- Illinois (Big Ten)

- Marshall (C-USA)
- Louisiana Tech (C-USA)
- Rice (C-USA)
- UTEP (C-USA)
- Western Kentucky (C-USA)
- Middle Tennessee (C-USA)
- UAB (C-USA)
- Old Dominion (C-USA)

- BYU (Ind.)
- Navy (Ind.)

- Northern Illinois (MAC)
- Western Michigan (MAC)
- Central Michigan (MAC)
- Bowling Green (MAC)
- Toledo (MAC)
- Ohio (MAC)

- Boise State (MWC)
- Colorado State (MWC)
- Nevada (MWC)
- Utah State (MWC)
- Air Force (MWC)
- San Diego State (MWC)
- Fresno State (MWC)

- Oregon (PAC 12)
- UCLA (PAC 12)
- Arizona (PAC 12)
- Utah (PAC 12)
- Arizona State (PAC 12)
- Washington (PAC 12)
- USC (PAC 12)
- Stanford (PAC 12)

- Georgia (SEC)
- Ole Miss (SEC)
- Miss. St. (SEC)
- Alabama (SEC)
- LSU (SEC)
- Missouri (SEC)
- Auburn (SEC)
- Texas A&M (SEC)
- Florida (SEC)
- South Carolina (SEC)
- Arkansas (SEC)
- Tennessee (SEC)

- La. Lafayette (Sun Belt) - R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
- Arkansas St. (Sun Belt) - GoDaddy Bowl
- South Alabama (Sun Belt) - Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
- Texas State (Sun Belt)

*Note: Georgia Southern and Appalachian State have enough wins to be bowl eligible for the Sun Belt, however they are not eligible to play until 2015 as part of their transition to FBS.

AAC -- 6
ACC/ND -- 10 (MATCHED - 12 have qualified)
Big 10 -- 8 (MATCHED - 10 have qualified)
Big 12 -- 5 (MATCHED - 5 have qualified)
CUSA -- 5 (MATCHED - 8 have qualified)
MAC -- 5 (MATCHED - 6 have qualified)
MWC -- 6 (MATCHED - 7 have qualified)
Pac 12 -- 6 (MATCHED - 8 have qualified)
SEC -- 9 (MATCHED - 12 have qualified)
Sun Belt -- 3 (MATCHED - 4 have qualified)
Army -- Armed Forces Bowl
Navy -- Poinsettia Bowl (Navy has qualified)
BYU -- Miami Beach Bowl (BYU has qualified)
Selection Committee -- 10 (2 each for Peach, Fiesta, Cotton, Rose, Sugar)

Thanks, Pataskala.
Last Edited: 12/3/2014 2:13:23 PM by GoCats105
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Posted: 10/22/2014 10:12 AM
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The latest from USATODAY

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/10/22/bowl-projections-room-fo.../

Six (6) MAC teams.
Last Edited: 10/22/2014 10:13:29 AM by Casper71
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Posted: 10/22/2014 10:23 AM
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Casper71 wrote:expand_more
The latest from USATODAY

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/10/22/bowl-projections-room-fo.../

Six (6) MAC teams.
Bowl game against OSU? I'll take it.
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Tyler wrote:expand_more
The latest from USATODAY

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/10/22/bowl-projections-room-fo.../

Six (6) MAC teams.
Bowl game against OSU? I'll take it.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:48 PM
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The chances that we are going to end up in a bowl with okie state are precisely less than zero.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:04 PM
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The chances that we are going to end up in a bowl with okie state are precisely less than zero.

With this many games left in the season, any predictions related to who will play in the various minor bowls has an expected accuracy of zero. That said, the projection that Ohio would end up in the Texas Bowl would be an extremely undesirable result. In 2008 WMU played in that bowl, and in order to accept, had to buy 11,000 tickets at full price. WMU was able to sell 548 of them, and lost nearly 1/2 million dollars.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 2:12 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
The chances that we are going to end up in a bowl with okie state are precisely less than zero.

With this many games left in the season, any predictions related to who will play in the various minor bowls has an expected accuracy of zero. That said, the projection that Ohio would end up in the Texas Bowl would be an extremely undesirable result. In 2008 WMU played in that bowl, and in order to accept, had to buy 11,000 tickets at full price. WMU was able to sell 548 of them, and lost nearly 1/2 million dollars.
I bet Ohio could sell more than 548 tickets, but there's no way we're coming out of that with any positives except for maybe the extra practices you get for bowl games. That sounds terrible.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 4:11 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
The chances that we are going to end up in a bowl with okie state are precisely less than zero.

With this many games left in the season, any predictions related to who will play in the various minor bowls has an expected accuracy of zero. That said, the projection that Ohio would end up in the Texas Bowl would be an extremely undesirable result. In 2008 WMU played in that bowl, and in order to accept, had to buy 11,000 tickets at full price. WMU was able to sell 548 of them, and lost nearly 1/2 million dollars.
and that loss was BEFORE travel expenses. Yikes!
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:44 PM
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GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
The chances that we are going to end up in a bowl with okie state are precisely less than zero.

With this many games left in the season, any predictions related to who will play in the various minor bowls has an expected accuracy of zero. That said, the projection that Ohio would end up in the Texas Bowl would be an extremely undesirable result. In 2008 WMU played in that bowl, and in order to accept, had to buy 11,000 tickets at full price. WMU was able to sell 548 of them, and lost nearly 1/2 million dollars.
I bet Ohio could sell more than 548 tickets, but there's no way we're coming out of that with any positives except for maybe the extra practices you get for bowl games. That sounds terrible.
I 'd be shocked if Ohio sold as many as 548 tickets to this year's Texas Bowl. Maybe 500 if lucky. That seems to be a ho-hum bowl.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 6:49 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
WMU was able to sell 548 of them, and lost nearly 1/2 million dollars.
I don't know where you got that number. This article says 2000-ish and it was before the game so maybe slightly more than that. Still not great, but better than 548

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2008/12/wmu_ad_bow...
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:02 PM
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548 came from Wikipedia. This is also now the advocare bowl - again.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:17 PM
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Correct, Alan, I got it from wiki, so it may or may not be accurate. I didn't really check into it further because even if it is well off, for purposes of this discussion, their loss was still huge. Wiki says $450,000, while Ubish's article says "over $300,000".
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Posted: 10/22/2014 7:55 PM
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The only bowl predictions that are worth considering are the ones that come out in early December. The ones that come out this time of year are like the playoff predictions that started last month -- they are space fillers used to justify the author getting a paycheck this week.
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Posted: 10/22/2014 10:01 PM
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I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face, but 6-6 gets you a bowl this year (and for the most part, moving forward). The MAC has significantly more tie-ins and backup agreements than ever before. We get 6, I'm giving it a 95% chance we're bowling somewhere greener and warmer!
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Posted: 10/22/2014 11:42 PM
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Guys, remember I never said I thought that would be the Bowl game we might be in. It's just what the "experts" at USATODAY say and it gives us something to talk about. Funny thing is it is probably the best game any MAC team could get if it came to be and it goes to (probably) #6. Amazing!
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Casper71 wrote:expand_more
Guys, remember I never said I thought that would be the Bowl game we might be in. It's just what the "experts" at USATODAY say and it gives us something to talk about. Funny thing is it is probably the best game any MAC team could get if it came to be and it goes to (probably) #6. Amazing!
That's how these things usually turn out. The MAC's direct tie-ins are to generally less-desirable bowls based on opponent, but those bowls get first pick of MAC teams. Then when other leagues can't meet their obligation, a less accomplished MAC team is all that's left to fill in for a bigger opponent, though a lot of times the reality is that it ends up being a fill-in in both slots. So Oklahoma State turns into a Sun Belt team.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 11:59 AM
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A Matchup versus Oklahoma State would be bad for us and worse for the MAC.

If I'm the MAC I protect the first two bowls and from three on down the MAC works with the schools and bowls to optimize matchups and end results.
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The way we are playing right now OSU would beat us by 30. IF we can get to 6-6 and IF the cards fall into place with games that are out of our control we would get a bowl game against a Sun Belt team like Texas State or South Alabama. We are going to have to win at Miami to get to 6-6 though.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 8:35 AM
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I wouldn't mind playing a team like Arkansas State or Middle Tennessee.
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The way we are playing right now OSU would beat us by 30. IF we can get to 6-6 and IF the cards fall into place with games that are out of our control we would get a bowl game against a Sun Belt team like Texas State or South Alabama. We are going to have to win at Miami to get to 6-6 though.


And in saying "beat us by 30", you mean in the first half, right?
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The way we are playing right now OSU would beat us by 30. IF we can get to 6-6 and IF the cards fall into place with games that are out of our control we would get a bowl game against a Sun Belt team like Texas State or South Alabama. We are going to have to win at Miami to get to 6-6 though.


And in saying "beat us by 30", you mean in the first half, right?
I meant 30 touchdowns.
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Posted: 10/25/2014 10:19 PM
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Also relevant to the bowl picture are the primary bowl tie-ins for each conference/indie:

AAC -- 6
ACC/ND -- 10
Big 10 -- 8
Big 12 -- 5
CUSA -- 5
MAC -- 5
MWC -- 6
Pac 12 -- 6
SEC -- 9
Sun Belt -- 3
Army -- Armed Forces Bowl
Navy -- Poinsettia Bowl
BYU -- Miami Beach Bowl
Selection Committee -- 10 (2 each for Peach, Fiesta, Cotton, Rose, Sugar)
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Posted: 10/25/2014 11:02 PM
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ACC/ND more than halfway to their quota, Big 12 4/5 and SEC has 7/9 already.
Last Edited: 10/25/2014 11:04:21 PM by GoCats105
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With regards to the MAC, we have 5 automatic bids, plus probably one more via secondary tie-in (I think either one of the ACC or B1G, or maybe both, has an extra team in the playoff opening up our secondary Detroit tie-in). So let's say 6 MAC teams go bowling.

As of today, only NIU is eligible. BG, Toledo, CMU, and WMU look to be pretty good bets to be eligible as well, with all needing only one more win to get there. That's five slots taken.

On the other end, Fiami, UMass, and Kent are already eliminated. EMU looks to be gone soon, with games against CMU, WMU, and Toledo still left. Buffalo can't lose more than 1 with games left vs. Ohio, Akron, Kent, and UMass. Ball State has to run the table (due to playing 2 FCS teams) against NIU, Umass, EMU, and BG. So, figure those three are going to be eliminated too.

That leaves just us and Akron fighting for the last bowl slot. Kron still has to play BG, Buffalo, UMass, and Kent; we have Buffalo, NIU, and Fiami.

If Kron runs the table, they're at 8-4 and probably in over us. If they drop one and we run the table, we're probably in (head-to-head win vs. Kron probably tips the scales in our favor with a 7-5 tie). If we drop one and Kron loses 2, we're probably in under the same logic (but at 6-6).

If we lose 2, we're mathematically out. If Kron loses 3, they're mathematically out.
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We're gonna go bowling. We'll probably go 2-1 to get to 6-6 and off to a bowl we'll go. Winning those games at the end vs Kent State and Akron were huge. We lose one of those and we might not be going.
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