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Posted: 1/1/2015 2:59 PM
Ohio has always done higher education on the cheap. Heck, they never appropriated one dollar for their first and finest until the later part of the 19th Century. Prior to that they expected the land grant from the Confederation Congress and the tuition to pay the bills. In other words, there is a very long history of low-ball funding formulas in the State of Ohio.
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Posted: 1/1/2015 6:44 PM
Because education has no impact at all on the economic prospects of a state.

In the same way that coaching 15-16 in the last 31 is no cause to be concerned.



AND WHY IS EVERYONE PICKING ON JAMESON HARTKE WHO DID NOTHING BUT GOOD FOR OHIO FOOTBALL AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.


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Posted: 1/2/2015 8:19 AM
Well said, DA!
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Posted: 1/2/2015 9:16 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Ohio has always done higher education on the cheap. Heck, they never appropriated one dollar for their first and finest until the later part of the 19th Century. Prior to that they expected the land grant from the Confederation Congress and the tuition to pay the bills. In other words, there is a very long history of low-ball funding formulas in the State of Ohio.
Yes, and in reading Betty Hollow's history of Ohio, we learned that it took lobbying from Vern Alden to persuade the state legislature to fund state-assisted universities not located in Columbus at the same level per student that it was funding OSU.
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Posted: 1/2/2015 10:29 AM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Ohio has always done higher education on the cheap. Heck, they never appropriated one dollar for their first and finest until the later part of the 19th Century. Prior to that they expected the land grant from the Confederation Congress and the tuition to pay the bills. In other words, there is a very long history of low-ball funding formulas in the State of Ohio.
Yes, and in reading Betty Hollow's history of Ohio, we learned that it took lobbying from Vern Alden to persuade the state legislature to fund state-assisted universities not located in Columbus at the same level per student that it was funding OSU.
Yes, and the non-land grant tax ("fee") funding only came about because a state rep from Athens by the last name of Sleeper (not making that up) authored the funding bill, which was known as the "Sleeper Bill." If I recall, Sleeper was the speaker of the House.
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Posted: 1/4/2015 3:15 PM
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/12/college-football-isnt-che...

Interesting article above featuring a quote from Ridpath. Note the deficit spending by UVA...ooof.
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Posted: 1/4/2015 5:17 PM
D.A. wrote:expand_more
http://hamptonroads.com/2014/12/college-football-isnt-che...

Interesting article above featuring a quote from Ridpath. Note the deficit spending by UVA...ooof.

That's one of the more fair articles I've seen on the subject. I noted this important quote:

"Most of the subsidies don't pay for football; they pay for sports such as baseball, field hockey and soccer that produce little revenue."

Using ODU as an example, football has expenses of $7m, but generates $6.8m in revenue. Other sports cost much less, but generate much less. I suppose football at Ohio loses more than that, but it is nevertheless true that the bulk of the student fees go to cover sports like baseball, field hockey, swimming, soccer, etc. On the other hand, I would bet that most students who are asked about the fee for athletics, if asked about where it goes, would guess that it goes for football.
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Posted: 1/5/2015 12:25 PM
After pressure from the University Council, Akron agrees to reveal full cost of athletics for students.

http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2015/01/universi...
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