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L.C.
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Posted: 12/30/2014 2:40 PM
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I wonder if the Nebraska situation is widely applicable or an infrequent exception.

Considering that university Boards usually include some business execs makes it harder for me to understand their willingness to shower coaches with many more dollars than would be needed to successfully recruit.

I'd say the Nebraska case is the exception...but perhaps the direction of the future.

The fact that there are business execs on the board indicates that they see value in the advertising benefit that football provides. Whether one likes football or not, or thinks football belongs as a part of the University or not, on a pure dollars and cents basis, it's hard to argue that football is not a net benefit that exceeds the cost.

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...... I'll bet they see increased applications and foundation giving once they return to winning. The large salaries are all part of the endowment machines.

And, this is why football continues. Note, however, that in college football the money given to the athletes is limited to scholarships, so the rest of the money flows to coaches, facilities, academic assistance, etc, whereas in pro football a larger chunk of the money goes directly to the players.
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Posted: 12/30/2014 3:06 PM
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L.C. wrote:expand_more
I wonder if the Nebraska situation is widely applicable or an infrequent exception.

Considering that university Boards usually include some business execs makes it harder for me to understand their willingness to shower coaches with many more dollars than would be needed to successfully recruit.

I'd say the Nebraska case is the exception...but perhaps the direction of the future.

The fact that there are business execs on the board indicates that they see value in the advertising benefit that football provides. Whether one likes football or not, or thinks football belongs as a part of the University or not, on a pure dollars and cents basis, it's hard to argue that football is not a net benefit that exceeds the cost.

...... I'll bet they see increased applications and foundation giving once they return to winning. The large salaries are all part of the endowment machines.

And, this is why football continues. Note, however, that in college football the money given to the athletes is limited to scholarships, so the rest of the money flows to coaches, facilities, academic assistance, etc, whereas in pro football a larger chunk of the money goes directly to the players.
A Wall Street Journal article included Michigan among schools concerned about declines in student attendance at football games - that could translate into fewer alumni fans and donors.
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Speaking of the WSJ. It included the dumbest lede I've read in a long, long, long, long time.


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By John U. Bacon
Updated Dec. 30, 2014 12:34 p.m. ET


Ann Arbor, Mich.

The private jet cut through the clouds and eased onto the airstrip at Detroit Metro Airport, just a few miles from where Charles Lindbergh once tested World War II bombers.

This plane’s mission wasn’t nearly so serious. But the joy it gave to the people below probably exceeded just about everything since V-J Day.

The jet’s cargo happened to be one James Joseph Harbaugh.

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AND THEN HE RODE A DONKEY INTO THE CITY, WHERE GOOGLE EXECUTIVES WAIVED PALM LEAVES AT HIM EXCLAIMING "HARBAUGH...HARBAUGH IN THE HIGHEST!"

Holy crap.
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Posted: 12/30/2014 6:12 PM
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Delete Pending wrote:expand_more
Speaking of the WSJ. It included the dumbest lede I've read in a long, long, long, long time.


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By John U. Bacon
Updated Dec. 30, 2014 12:34 p.m. ET


Ann Arbor, Mich.

The private jet cut through the clouds and eased onto the airstrip at Detroit Metro Airport, just a few miles from where Charles Lindbergh once tested World War II bombers.

This plane’s mission wasn’t nearly so serious. But the joy it gave to the people below probably exceeded just about everything since V-J Day.

The jet’s cargo happened to be one James Joseph Harbaugh.

__________________________

AND THEN HE RODE A DONKEY INTO THE CITY, WHERE GOOGLE EXECUTIVES WAIVED PALM LEAVES AT HIM EXCLAIMING "HARBAUGH...HARBAUGH IN THE HIGHEST!"

Holy crap.
Hmmm...I like the private jet lead. Indicates the writer new some history and saw a way to entertainingly link it to Harbaugh's arrival - and likely knew readers wouldn't take it overly seriously. Unless like you, they found it dumb.
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Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
I wonder if the Nebraska situation is widely applicable or an infrequent exception.

Considering that university Boards usually include some business execs makes it harder for me to understand their willingness to shower coaches with many more dollars than would be needed to successfully recruit.

I'd say the Nebraska case is the exception...but perhaps the direction of the future.

The fact that there are business execs on the board indicates that they see value in the advertising benefit that football provides. Whether one likes football or not, or thinks football belongs as a part of the University or not, on a pure dollars and cents basis, it's hard to argue that football is not a net benefit that exceeds the cost.

...... I'll bet they see increased applications and foundation giving once they return to winning. The large salaries are all part of the endowment machines.

And, this is why football continues. Note, however, that in college football the money given to the athletes is limited to scholarships, so the rest of the money flows to coaches, facilities, academic assistance, etc, whereas in pro football a larger chunk of the money goes directly to the players.
A Wall Street Journal article included Michigan among schools concerned about declines in student attendance at football games - that could translate into fewer alumni fans and donors.
I think the opposite will happen. It seems everyone connected to UM is going bonkers over Harbaugh. These people are fired up! My daughter ( no football fan usually) and all her friends are really excited. If Harbaugh wins like he won at San Diego and at Stanford, I think demand for tickets will be sky high. I have a funny feeling UM's going to jack up what we're going to have to pay for student tickets next year. Great...........
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Posted: 12/31/2014 12:51 AM
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Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
I wonder if the Nebraska situation is widely applicable or an infrequent exception.

Considering that university Boards usually include some business execs makes it harder for me to understand their willingness to shower coaches with many more dollars than would be needed to successfully recruit.

I'd say the Nebraska case is the exception...but perhaps the direction of the future.

The fact that there are business execs on the board indicates that they see value in the advertising benefit that football provides. Whether one likes football or not, or thinks football belongs as a part of the University or not, on a pure dollars and cents basis, it's hard to argue that football is not a net benefit that exceeds the cost.

...... I'll bet they see increased applications and foundation giving once they return to winning. The large salaries are all part of the endowment machines.

And, this is why football continues. Note, however, that in college football the money given to the athletes is limited to scholarships, so the rest of the money flows to coaches, facilities, academic assistance, etc, whereas in pro football a larger chunk of the money goes directly to the players.

Check the actually increase In cost for said students, and limits on them selling their deeply discounted tickets to Joe Q Public to make some extra cash.
A Wall Street Journal article included Michigan among schools concerned about declines in student attendance at football games - that could translate into fewer alumni fans and donors.
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