..The posts about only losses by 25 points or more are significant ...
No, I never said that losses by 25 points or more are the only ones that are significant. I didn't address the meaning of the close losses at all, which is a totally different subject, and one we can discuss separately, if you like.
What I did say was that teams should rarely, if ever, lose by 25 or more, at least, not unless they are playing an unusually good team. When a team loses by 25 or more consistently, it is an indication of a problem. When I showed that the 2013 team lost not one, but four games by more than 25, only one of which was to a "very good team", I was using data to confirm your hypothesis that there was something very wrong in 2013. Instead of seeing my data as a confirmation of your point of view, which is what it was, you inexplicably took it as an attack on your view.
2013 by all measures had a lot of returning talent, and they should have been a good team. Somehow, instead of being good, they managed to lose repeatedly by 25 or more. By the same measures, 2014 had very little returning talent, losing the QB (Tettleton), RBs (Blankenship, Boykin), both TEs (Hill, Talbert), the three starting WR (Foster, Waters, Dovell) and most of the OL (Prior, Johnson, McGrath, Lechner, plus Wood due to injury), plus some key defenders (Branz and Barber from the DL, K. Moore and Russell at LB, and Carrie, Shaw, Hughes, and Carpenter due to injury from the DBs). The 2014 team played about 20 Freshmen (True+Redshirt). There was no reason to expect it to be good. Yet, the 2014 team won nearly the same number of games as the 2013 team. Even more significantly, they played competitively against both teams in the MAC Championship. For the level of experience that they had, I thought that the 2014 team played well last year, though you are free to disagree.
2015 will not be a rebuilding year. Virtually everyone is back. Unlike last year, there is no reason that the 2015 team should not be every bit as good as the 2009-2011 teams. Will they win the MAC? I don't know, but they have as good a chance as anyone. The schedule isn't the best, with BG on the road, and the three teams that I believe will be the best in the West this year, WMU, NIU, and Ball State. (Toledo could be in the top three as well, but I think they will be 4th, with CMU-EMU bringing up the rear). Even with the tough schedule, I don't rule out a MAC Championship. I expect all four of the above games (WMU, NIU, Ball State, and BG) to be decided by less than a TD, and how these four games shake out will determine where Ohio fits in the final pecking order. (Here is where we can discuss the meaning of winning or not winning the close ones).
..and about how this used to be a more pleasant board before people started posting not-100%-positive posts--really?...
I'm not sure who this is directed at, but I don't expect anyone to be 100% positive. The converse of that, however, is that I don't expect anyone to be 100% negative, either.
As for me, not 100% positive, but I admit that I'm an optimist, and I've always been an optimist. If you hate optimism, there isn't much I can do about that. I wasn't happy about what happened in 2013, and I don't think anyone was. I know that applied to people inside the program as well as to us, as fans. I know the players weren't happy - they went to Solich looking for changes. I know Solich wasn't happy, and you could see it in his face and comments, and in the changes he made. He brought in the Navy Seals training guy, and he brought in another group, including a member of this board, to consult on new ideas to improve team unity.
As an optimist, it isn't hard for me to see progress. I saw a team that should have been good go 7-6, and then I saw a team that should have been bad go 6-6. I saw a team that, in a rebuilding year, still managed to win enough games to be bowl eligible, and manage to stay competitive in most of the other games, even though they had key injuries to Vick and AJ. I see a team for this fall that returns all it's key talent, a team that matches in experience and talent levels the teams of 2009-2011.
Monroe, I don't expect that we'll ever completely agree, but I do expect that by the end of the season, you and I will be closer to agreement. If the 2015 team only wins 6, then it will be a team, that like 2013 underperforms my expectations. If they win 9-10, as I expect, then they will exceed your expectations. If they win more, or a MACC, everyone will be happy....at least until 2016. ;)
Last Edited: 3/20/2015 1:27:52 PM by L.C.