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Ted Thompson
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Posted: 12/3/2014 11:03 AM
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Received a message from Justin Wyatt that he is transferring to Golden West Community College in Huntington Beach, CA. Always hate to see a Bobcat go but going from Ohio to Huntington Beach in January is not all bad. Good luck to Justin!
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Posted: 12/3/2014 11:16 AM
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I believe he missed all of last season with an injury. It was reported he got switched from receiver to cornerback late in the summer. I'm not sure that he ever played this year.
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Posted: 12/4/2014 7:31 PM
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I read the post article with him saying the staff promised him a spread offense but went to a run based offense instead. Thats got to be frustrating especially for the wr's. I kind of feel we were all sold that bill of goods.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:51 PM
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BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
I read the post article with him saying the staff promised him a spread offense but went to a run based offense instead. Thats got to be frustrating especially for the wr's. I kind of feel we were all sold that bill of goods.

That's an odd comment. I'd call Grobe's offense "run-based", but not this offense. Through the first nine games of the year, Ohio had 52% rushing plays, and 48% passes, and that includes called pass plays that end as sacks or scrambles for a gain as runs, even though they were called passes. That means there were probably more passes called than runs, hardly what I would consider a run-heavy offense. FWIW it would have been the 5th highest pass-heavy offense in the MAC had it remained there.

As it happened, with the passing not all that effective, and AJ healthy, Ohio did run the ball quite a bit in the last three games, 74% against Buffalo, 58% against NIU, and 61% against Miami, so Ohio ended the year at 55.6% runs, which is about the middle of the MAC.

Interestingly the four teams with the highest percentage of passes were Kent, Akron, Miami, and UMass. They, along with EMU had the lowest win percentage in the conference. It seems there is still a strong correlation between running the ball and winning.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:00 PM
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You win games in late Oct and Nov in the north if you can run the ball and stop the opponent run. That's what those last three games were about. The run also sets other things up. I liked the way we used the TE as a lead blocker late in the year. Didn't remember seeing it early. It looked like the run plays the Patriots use. Throw in a passing game and you have a complete offense.

Just looked at the NIU-BG Box Score...I rest my case:

Rushing NIU-336 BG-129

Forget the spread crap and go back to old fashioned FB. BigManz up front and a real running back. Then, just enough passing to keep them honest. It is a simple recipe that has been successful over the years no matter what the "new" offense is.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:31 AM
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Casper71 wrote:expand_more
You win games in late Oct and Nov in the north if you can run the ball and stop the opponent run. That's what those last three games were about. The run also sets other things up. I liked the way we used the TE as a lead blocker late in the year. Didn't remember seeing it early. It looked like the run plays the Patriots use. Throw in a passing game and you have a complete offense.

Just looked at the NIU-BG Box Score...I rest my case:

Rushing NIU-336 BG-129

Forget the spread crap and go back to old fashioned FB. BigManz up front and a real running back. Then, just enough passing to keep them honest. It is a simple recipe that has been successful over the years no matter what the "new" offense is.
THAT is how you do it.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 7:45 AM
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Casper is wrong. We don't have the resources to compete.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 8:13 AM
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Casper71 wrote:expand_more
You win games in late Oct and Nov in the north if you can run the ball and stop the opponent run. That's what those last three games were about. The run also sets other things up. I liked the way we used the TE as a lead blocker late in the year. Didn't remember seeing it early. It looked like the run plays the Patriots use. Throw in a passing game and you have a complete offense.

Just looked at the NIU-BG Box Score...I rest my case:

Rushing NIU-336 BG-129

Forget the spread crap and go back to old fashioned FB. BigManz up front and a real running back. Then, just enough passing to keep them honest. It is a simple recipe that has been successful over the years no matter what the "new" offense is.
Balance is the first key. Defensive coordinators will scout you and can usually take away one aspect of an offense. The second key is to have the coach on the field type QB who will see the defense and understand which match-up creates the best advantage for his offense. The old take what they are giving you deal. NIU's Hare, the son of a coach, not a nifty runner, not a great passer, but when down by the goal and a spread set draws the ILBs to the outside he can scoot five yards through the middle. When the defense lays off Brescacin, his 6'4" 220 lb Canadian import WR, he can put it in his big hands. He can read and execute.

Did anyone else notice that in NIU's last seven games, all wins, only Toledo and Ohio played them to within one TD. Credit to NIU. They and Ohio are alike in approach, physical and balanced, NIU doing it better. Perhaps next season, NIU without DaRon Brown, Stingily, their FB and three other seniors on the OL they will come back to the pack. If they do even a little and Ohio's young team can improve a little there will be some good games for Ohio fans to enjoy next year. This without reinventing the wheel.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 8:59 AM
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Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Balance is the first key. Defensive coordinators will scout you and can usually take away one aspect of an offense. The second key is to have the coach on the field type QB who will see the defense and understand which match-up creates the best advantage for his offense. The old take what they are giving you deal. NIU's Hare, the son of a coach, not a nifty runner, not a great passer, but when down by the goal and a spread set draws the ILBs to the outside he can scoot five yards through the middle. When the defense lays off Brescacin, his 6'4" 220 lb Canadian import WR, he can put it in his big hands. He can read and execute.
This is very good logic, spot on. But OHIO fails the test. During 2012 & 2013 why didn't the OHIO QB EVER read the keeper? When did the QB, in that season and a half EVER scamper up the middle for five yards? He did it in 2011 MANY times--leading single handed comebacks vs BG and CMU with his legs. So, why would the coaches stick with a QB that wouldn't take what the defense was offering? There can only be two logical reasons. #1 there was no one on the bench who could do it better which means the recruiting of QB's has been really bad or #2 the coaches didn't even know that the QB wasn't taking what ever the defense was giving. Why did our coaches put up with an important piece forcing a square peg, Beau up the middle, into the non existent round or square hole?

As for NIU not thumping OHIO--Bobcats did improve however the game was away for NIU and any win on the road, in November, after playing a significantly tougher schedule is a comfortable win. NIU's defense pitched a very good game and OHIO defense was nearly as good. But in no way was the OHIO offense scoring only two TD's up to the challenge.

Watch Baylor today to see if the team needs to overwhelm with the running attack.

Take what the defense gives for sure but coach a QB to do it.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 9:44 AM
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OK some good points made about balanced offense winning games, but can we all agree that the pistol is not the answer. If you want to mix run/pass using pro style, or read option then fine, but I think the pistol offense plain sucks. That is my eye test only and I have no stats to back up how good or bad the pistol has been historically.
Last Edited: 12/6/2014 9:46:07 AM by BuddyLee
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:31 AM
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BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
OK some good points made about balanced offense winning games, but can we all agree that the pistol is not the answer. If you want to mix run/pass using pro style, or read option then fine, but I think the pistol offense plain sucks. That is my eye test only and I have no stats to back up how good or bad the pistol has been historically.
BL, sorry, come back when you have more. Something, anything. In the mean time Ohio has a young team on a roll, trending upward, a decade of Ws over Miami.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 10:41 AM
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Casper71 wrote:expand_more
You win games in late Oct and Nov in the north if you can run the ball and stop the opponent run. That's what those last three games were about. The run also sets other things up. I liked the way we used the TE as a lead blocker late in the year. Didn't remember seeing it early. It looked like the run plays the Patriots use. Throw in a passing game and you have a complete offense.

Just looked at the NIU-BG Box Score...I rest my case:

Rushing NIU-336 BG-129

Forget the spread crap and go back to old fashioned FB. BigManz up front and a real running back. Then, just enough passing to keep them honest. It is a simple recipe that has been successful over the years no matter what the "new" offense is.

I agree that it was great to see the multiple TE sets late in the season. Early in the year, Ohio's young linemen just weren't getting the job done, so the other team's defenses weren't respecting Ohio's run offense, and they weren't putting many defenders in the box. In that situation, if you add another TE, then the defenders move 2 more players into the box, and your chance of running successfully decreases. It also is difficult to throw the ball because the defense is able to have double coverage on some receivers.

As the season progressed, however, the linemen improved their execution, and the defenders were forced to respect Ohio's run game, and they were forece to put more players in the box. That enabled Ohio to counter by adding the extra TE, in which case the defenders only could move 1 more player into the box, and not as big a defender as the TE that Ohio added. Thus, adding the extra TE was not what made the rushing attack effective; it was something that became a part of the offense once the core rushing attack became effective.

I do agree, though. If you can run the ball effectively you will usually win.
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Posted: 4/28/2015 9:12 AM
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Wyatt gets offered by Colorado.
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Posted: 4/28/2015 11:02 AM
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Posted: 4/28/2015 11:46 AM
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Wyatt gets offered by Colorado.
Meaning they are offering him a scholarship spot to transfer there? That's interesting, rarely do we ever have players transfer to other FBS programs...particularly players that didn't see the field much for us.
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