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Posted: 12/9/2014 11:48 AM
Thanks for sharing that link, D.A.

Excellent article. It didn't even get into football's economic impact on the community. For example, let's look at Ohio's average attendance of 25,500. Let's be generous and say that half are students who are already on campus.

So 12,500 are locals or out of towners that may not have come into Athens for the game.

Let's trim that down to 10,000 for argument's sake and easier math.

10,000 people probably at least buy a meal and a beverage in Athens who otherwise wouldn't have done so without a football game ($15-$20?) -- $150,000-$200,000

A quarter of those 10,000 people also might buy a t-shirt/souvenir (2,500 x $15-$20) -- $37,500-$50,000

Of that 10,000, let's say there are families/groups of four that have come into town for the game -- 2,500 "groups". How many of those groups get a hotel room for the night? Let's say 10% of them do (250 groups x $100-$150 hotel) -- $25,000-$37,500

Of those that stay in Athens hotels, they buy more meals (1,000 people x $50-$75) -- $50,000-$75,000

Filling up at Dale's Sohio? Let's say 250 cars fill up in Athens to head back after the game/weekend (250 x $30-$40) -- $7,500-$10,000

So a total spend on Athens businesses for one game might range from $270,000-$372,500. Multiply that by four Saturday home games -- $1,080,000-$1,490,000.

That doesn't even account for the three weekday home games, parking, ticket sales, parking ticket revenue, payments to staff/vendors/organizations working the games.

Take football away and you lose all of that which is fed back into the community. And putting at least an extra $1M to $1.5M into the Athens community in the fall is a big deal. It's a shame that the Birmingham community will feel a similar economic loss.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 12:25 PM
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L.C., I wonder if they have their own endowment fund, or if it's administered by the main campus in Tuscaloosa? They are under the same board as the main campus, and it appears to me that they have very little autonomy. It's not exactly like UCLA or UC Berkeley.

I find various numbers for endowment. One shows a pool of $984m for the whole system, while others show independent numbers, UAB at $327.4m, UA at $632m, and UAH at 70m. They don't add up, so, I don't know for sure.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:04 AM
Because UAB dropped football, Tenn had an opening and picked up BG. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/12/09/bow.../

Doubt there'll be many more. As I recall, UAB wasn't scheduling past next year.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:26 AM
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As I recall, UAB wasn't scheduling past next year.

Which is all the proof you need that this wasn't about any new report on the costs of maintaining football.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 1:29 PM
James Madison interested in replacing UAB. JMU completed a major renovation and expansion of their stadium a few years ago.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/college/james-madison...
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Posted: 12/10/2014 2:04 PM
Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 5:33 PM
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Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
Jerry Falwell might have passed away in 2007, but L.U. can't go back in time and make itself be founded by somebody NOT named Jerry Falwell.

The stigma is attached. It's not going away anytime soon.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 5:44 PM
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Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
Jerry Falwell might have passed away in 2007, but L.U. can't go back in time and make itself be founded by somebody NOT named Jerry Falwell.

The stigma is attached. It's not going away anytime soon.

The current Chancellor is Jerry Falwell, Jr., by the way.

In any case, there are other religious institutions at the Division I level. I can understand why a school's religious affiliation might affect whether you wanted to go there, but in a country that professes freedom of religion, why should a school's religious affiliation affect whether they are allowed to participate in sports?
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Posted: 12/20/2014 2:07 PM
And their coach is CUSA's Coach of the Year: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-f...

He should get a long look from some schools looking for a new coach.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 4:12 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
Jerry Falwell might have passed away in 2007, but L.U. can't go back in time and make itself be founded by somebody NOT named Jerry Falwell.

The stigma is attached. It's not going away anytime soon.

The current Chancellor is Jerry Falwell, Jr., by the way.

In any case, there are other religious institutions at the Division I level. I can understand why a school's religious affiliation might affect whether you wanted to go there, but in a country that professes freedom of religion, why should a school's religious affiliation affect whether they are allowed to participate in sports?
Because Falwell was a national disgrace that said we deserved 9/11 amongst other awful things. If they want to be taken seriously they can start by ridding themselves of any connection to that clown.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 6:55 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
Jerry Falwell might have passed away in 2007, but L.U. can't go back in time and make itself be founded by somebody NOT named Jerry Falwell.

The stigma is attached. It's not going away anytime soon.

The current Chancellor is Jerry Falwell, Jr., by the way.

In any case, there are other religious institutions at the Division I level. I can understand why a school's religious affiliation might affect whether you wanted to go there, but in a country that professes freedom of religion, why should a school's religious affiliation affect whether they are allowed to participate in sports?
Because Falwell was a national disgrace that said we deserved 9/11 amongst other awful things. If they want to be taken seriously they can start by ridding themselves of any connection to that clown.
the real issue with Liberty is their academic malfeasance, unlike other FBS faith-based institutions, Liberty requires all of its students to take courses that teach religious doctrine as if it is scientific truth. They are an academic fraud and should not be viewed as a legitimate educational institution.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 9:01 AM
WOW, feel the hate! And no, I am not a LU grad, Baptist, nor supporter of LU.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:22 AM
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WOW, feel the hate! And no, I am not a LU grad, Baptist, nor supporter of LU.
Why is it hateful to point out reality? #SiberiaHereWeCome
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:34 AM
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the real issue with Liberty is their academic malfeasance, unlike other FBS faith-based institutions, Liberty requires all of its students to take courses that teach religious doctrine as if it is scientific truth. They are an academic fraud and should not be viewed as a legitimate educational institution.
Oh yeah, that too! :)
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Posted: 12/21/2014 10:48 AM
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Because Falwell was a national disgrace that said we deserved 9/11 amongst other awful things. If they want to be taken seriously they can start by ridding themselves of any connection to that clown.

Is Falwell really any more controversial than, say, Brigham Young? Or is it just that he was a long time ago that is the difference?
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:20 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Because Falwell was a national disgrace that said we deserved 9/11 amongst other awful things. If they want to be taken seriously they can start by ridding themselves of any connection to that clown.

Is Falwell really any more controversial than, say, Brigham Young? Or is it just that he was a long time ago that is the difference?
Yes, that a very good point, L.C. Brigham Young, unlike Joseph Smith, was a racist and purged blacks out of the church. He then re-interprted the Book of Mormon to make his racist view part of the official theology of the church. It's only been in the last few decades the the major LDS church as changed this interpretation back to that of the Joseph Smith, the original founder of Mormonism. Read the history of the schism between the LDS church and reorganized LDS church. It would make a good soap opera.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:22 PM
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Liberty is also looking to move up, but you can't move up without being invited by a conference, apparently.
Jerry Falwell might have passed away in 2007, but L.U. can't go back in time and make itself be founded by somebody NOT named Jerry Falwell.

The stigma is attached. It's not going away anytime soon.
If you want to see something very interesting in terms of the people that universities are named after, google the Western Kentucky tobacco wars.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 4:48 PM
UAB coming back - 2016
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