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Posted: 9/29/2015 3:14 PM
Here's an interesting and telling quote from the article:

"The Ball State game was the least-attended of EMU's three home games this season, with just 4,463 people in the stands. Each of Eastern's other two home games drew more than 6,000 people."

I'm thinking there were not that many people in the stands if only fewer than 560 beers sold. If you're a true blue EMU fan, you'd be drinking a lot heavier than that.
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Posted: 9/29/2015 3:29 PM
As part of their vending agreement with EMU, Pepsi is required to buy football tickets. Maybe EMU can add a clause to that agreement that requires the Pepsi attendees to EMU football games must also purchase a beer at the game? Mandatory beer consumption can only help the fan atmosphere in Ypsilanti.
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Posted: 9/29/2015 5:46 PM
Well, in the past they used to average only about 3,900 at games, if I recall, so maybe having the beer is bringing a few more to the games. Either that, or they are coming to see the concrete wall knocked down, or the gray turf....
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Posted: 9/29/2015 5:47 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you find a rainbow in a steaming turd.
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Posted: 9/29/2015 5:48 PM
"Steiner considered the pilot program a success.

“Yes, the pilot was a success in the fact that it did everything we could have hoped for,” he said."



What exactly was hoped for?
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Posted: 9/29/2015 6:03 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
As part of their vending agreement with EMU, Pepsi is required to buy football tickets. Maybe EMU can add a clause to that agreement that requires the Pepsi attendees to EMU football games must also purchase a beer at the game?
I'm sure Pepsi can do much better than *drinking* a beer... Mmm, alcoholic cola.
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Posted: 9/29/2015 9:54 PM
$7K just to get set to sell even just ONE BEER. I hope they don't have a business school at EMU. This also likely example of inept bureaucracy ran amuk - and local beer distributor cashing in knowing that (or knowing the bureaucrat who signed the contract Very Well).
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Posted: 9/30/2015 10:52 AM
While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:26 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume.

I agree that Peden isn't likely equipped to handle this right now as it's currently set up and constructed. What about beer sales inside The Convo? Is there better infrastructure for that in your opinion.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:32 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume.
From what I can tell, EMU had a separate beer stand from the concessions. That is how Kent State did it when I went to the opener at Kent last year. At Kent, you walked up to a tent (separate from the concessions) and purchased a beer ticket. Then you went to a trailer (separate from the concessions) and exchanged the ticket for the beer. Entirely separate from the concessions.
Our concourse is PACKED. It isn't going under there on the tower or student side Put the tent and beer stand under the corner seats. I think that would fit.
IF we did do this, I think going to Jackie O's and having them run the show is the way to do it. It is even better with them because they have cans. That is 1,000,000x easier than other craft breweries where you have to deal with the logistics of kegs. Cans are extremely convenient for this.

I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. EMU didn't lose money because the beer business is difficult. They lost money because they have no fan base.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:58 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
. . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . .
I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 12:12 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume.
From what I can tell, EMU had a separate beer stand from the concessions. That is how Kent State did it when I went to the opener at Kent last year. At Kent, you walked up to a tent (separate from the concessions) and purchased a beer ticket. Then you went to a trailer (separate from the concessions) and exchanged the ticket for the beer. Entirely separate from the concessions.
Our concourse is PACKED. It isn't going under there on the tower or student side Put the tent and beer stand under the corner seats. I think that would fit.
IF we did do this, I think going to Jackie O's and having them run the show is the way to do it. It is even better with them because they have cans. That is 1,000,000x easier than other craft breweries where you have to deal with the logistics of kegs. Cans are extremely convenient for this.

I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. EMU didn't lose money because the beer business is difficult. They lost money because they have no fan base.
Beneath those corner seats are the only place I can think of too. And cans are good because they allow vendors to sell them in the stands.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:08 PM
I understand why Ohio and many other mid-majors play division I sports.

But, EMU? I just don't get it. Barely 5,000 fans at football games and 900 fans at basketball games. Year after year. It is just not gonna happen for them.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 2:05 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . .
I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here.
Good catch. That is what I meant.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 3:16 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
. . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . .
I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here.
Good catch. That is what I meant.
Every one of my visits to Chubb Hall, as a student, and now a parent, have been to execute checks payable to our fair institution. I assume they would be all for increased increased revenue streams.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 3:50 PM
I remember from the article, part of the high cost was they rented all of the equipment they used. If it became a every game thing the costs would be spread over the life of the equipment. They never stated what all of the equipment was so you were left to guess.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 4:29 PM
That's like opening a hot dog stand in a graveyard.

It also sounds like an Onion story.

"A temperance movement abruptly broke out in Ypsilanti, Michigan, on Saturday..."
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