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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:29 AM
Interesting take on general admission beer sales from NYT. West Virginia is featured but Toledo gets a mention as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/sports/ncaafootball/bee...
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:05 PM
Even more importantly, what the heck is going on in the Tower Club with no Budweiser or Bud Light for sale? Why are we forced to drink the swill of the highest bidder?
Actually, I did see the article. I am not so sure that they didn't pick WVU for the featured site of beer sales because of our the reputation for excessive partying. This backwoods image is accentuated by the photo for the article which showed a few hillbillies holding G. Gordon Gee photo/fans.
This being said, I mostly wanted to just vent about the lack of drinkable beer in the Tower Club. Thank you for providing the forum in which to do so. Much appreciated, thank you.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:12 PM
Gooch Gourley makes the all-name team for fans.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 7:53 AM
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Even more importantly, what the heck is going on in the Tower Club with no Budweiser or Bud Light for sale? Why are we forced to drink the swill of the highest bidder?
I have to ask what "swill" are they serving that someone is suggesting Budweiser/Bud Light is so far above the term "swill" that it needs to be served? Milwaukee's Best Light?
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Posted: 10/9/2015 8:39 AM
I always get the Stella Artois - the Budweiser of Belgium. It's tolerable.

Buttwiper and Bud Light are two of the lowest rated beers in the world for a reason.

It would be great if we could get stuff from one of the three Athens breweries and ciderhouse, but I imagine there's a reason we're stuck with macros.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 9:31 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
I always get the Stella Artois - the Budweiser of Belgium. It's tolerable.

Buttwiper and Bud Light are two of the lowest rated beers in the world for a reason.

It would be great if we could get stuff from one of the three Athens breweries and ciderhouse, but I imagine there's a reason we're stuck with macros.
A signed contract with southeastern beverage is why plus maximum profit. On the other hand, you can get Jackie O's beer at Mem Aud during their shows. Different venues.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 10:52 AM
Recovering Journalist, you are painting with too broad a brush. I was surprised on a trip to the UK about six years ago that almost every pub we went into had Budweiser and they sold it at a premium. It was touted as the "exotic foreign beer." It was almost always the most expensive draft.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 10:59 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Recovering Journalist, you are painting with too broad a brush. I was surprised on a trip to the UK about six years ago that almost every pub we went into had Budweiser and they sold it at a premium. It was touted as the "exotic foreign beer." It was almost always the most expensive draft.
Alan, your answer was pretty much my guess, but it's good to know. Thanks! OCF, there's no accounting for taste, but I do side with the "awful" scores here:

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/1320 /

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/65 /
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:19 AM
Based on experiments I did years ago, most people have no idea what the taste difference is between beers. If you take away the label, and have them pick a beer they like based on flavor alone, most people are lost. I doubt it's changed any over the years.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:43 AM
Bud Light: "What beer drinkers drink when beer drinkers aren't drinking beer"...
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:01 PM
I always enjoy watching new threads and trying to estimate when the thread will turn from a sharing of opinions to the Chevy Chase-like outburst of "Jane you ignorant slut!"
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:18 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Based on experiments I did years ago, most people have no idea what the taste difference is between beers. If you take away the label, and have them pick a beer they like based on flavor alone, most people are lost. I doubt it's changed any over the years.
The key words in your post are "years ago." In the last 10 years or so, the quality and number of craft brews in the US has gone through the roof. I know guys who were strict Coors Light drinkers who won't touch the stuff today. Beer drinkers I know often talk about what they're drinking the way that wine drinkers describe that beverage. It all depends on the sophistication of your palate. Heck some people like Barefoot wine. :)
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:19 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
I always get the Stella Artois - the Budweiser of Belgium. It's tolerable.

Buttwiper and Bud Light are two of the lowest rated beers in the world for a reason.

It would be great if we could get stuff from one of the three Athens breweries and ciderhouse, but I imagine there's a reason we're stuck with macros.

Stella and Carlsberg - Euro beers that many people like to think of as being "good" beer. IMO - it's essentially Euro Budweiser.

I'd love to see a Jackie O's beer stand at Ohio games sometime. I won't hold my breath. Until then, I'll bring growlers to tailgate.




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Bud Light: "What beer drinkers drink when beer drinkers aren't drinking beer"...

Love this. I haven't paid my money for Bud light more than maybe twice in the last decade.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:44 PM
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Based on experiments I did years ago, most people have no idea what the taste difference is between beers. If you take away the label, and have them pick a beer they like based on flavor alone, most people are lost. I doubt it's changed any over the years.

I would agree that how beer is served has a bigger impact on taste than differences between labels of domestic lagers, but I also think we can clearly establish a hierarchy among them:

1. Beer someone else buys
2. Beer that is cold
3. Beer with greater than 5% ABV
4. Miller High Life
5. Whatever beer is sitting immediately in front of you.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:50 PM
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I always get the Stella Artois - the Budweiser of Belgium. It's tolerable.

Buttwiper and Bud Light are two of the lowest rated beers in the world for a reason.

It would be great if we could get stuff from one of the three Athens breweries and ciderhouse, but I imagine there's a reason we're stuck with macros.

Stella and Carlsberg - Euro beers that many people like to think of as being "good" beer. IMO - it's essentially Euro Budweiser.

I'd love to see a Jackie O's beer stand at Ohio games sometime. I won't hold my breath. Until then, I'll bring growlers to tailgate.




Bud Light: "What beer drinkers drink when beer drinkers aren't drinking beer"...

Love this. I haven't paid my money for Bud light more than maybe twice in the last decade.
Carlsberg is way better than Bud and Stella. This is indisputable fact.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 2:04 PM
I'll agree to disagree on this one. I put it in the category of cheap beer. If we're talking good, lighter, Euro beers, I'll go with Harp.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 3:06 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Stella and Carlsberg - Euro beers that many people like to think of as being "good" beer. IMO - it's essentially Euro Budweiser. . . .
Well, in those English pubs that I mentioned, Carlsberg was the other foreign beer that was almost always available. I tended to go for it alot. Wouldn't spring for the extra shilling for a Bud. ;-) One thing I HATED were the English "bitters." I once ordered a Cinci Cream, I guess because the name reminded me of Cincinnati, Ohio. That was downright horrible, IMHO.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 3:31 PM
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Based on experiments I did years ago, most people have no idea what the taste difference is between beers. If you take away the label, and have them pick a beer they like based on flavor alone, most people are lost. I doubt it's changed any over the years.
The key words in your post are "years ago." In the last 10 years or so, the quality and number of craft brews in the US has gone through the roof. I know guys who were strict Coors Light drinkers who won't touch the stuff today. Beer drinkers I know often talk about what they're drinking the way that wine drinkers describe that beverage. It all depends on the sophistication of your palate. Heck some people like Barefoot wine. :)

Alan, I totally agree that there is a lot more variety in beer these days that there used to be, but I'm skeptical whether people can really discern all that they think they can. What I used to do was to take a number of beers and put them into unmarked glasses, and then let people sample them, and give their opinion. Certainly everyone could detect flavor difference, even back then, but which flavor was "good" and which was "cheap" or "nasty"? That was the hard part.

My experiments showed that back then, if they knew which was which, the heavily advertised beers were always "good", while the cheap ones were always "nasty", but if they were drinking from an unmarked glass, they were just as apt to choose the cheap one as their favorite. My personal favorite among lager beers was "Blatz" which was not only cheap, but I liked it. Furthermore, since flavor-wise it was virtually indistinguishable from Michelob, that allowed me to prank numerous people by putting them both in the same taste test. Hehe... fun times.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 6:30 PM
O.K. fellow 'Catters, one thing has become crystal clear. The fact that we have 18 replies to this thread proves that one thing we are all passionate about ( besides the Bobcats) is BEER. It's important to have things in your life that you love.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 6:57 PM
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O.K. fellow 'Catters, one thing has become crystal clear. The fact that we have 18 replies to this thread proves that one thing we are all passionate about ( besides the Bobcats) is BEER. It's important to have things in your life that you love.
Agreed!! And CMoney, as to your beer hierarchy list, your No.3 (ABV) is my No.1. In my advanced age, I like beer with a purpose! A good beer with an ABV of 7.5-9%?? Dee-lish I say!

And in honor of the occasion, MUCK FIAMI!!!!
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Posted: 10/10/2015 10:47 AM
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Recovering Journalist, you are painting with too broad a brush. I was surprised on a trip to the UK about six years ago that almost every pub we went into had Budweiser and they sold it at a premium. It was touted as the "exotic foreign beer." It was almost always the most expensive draft.
To paraphrase an earlier post, "OCF, you ignorant swabbie", but I digress. My experience decades ago on a trip to the UK on a special leave from Pleiku, the featured imported beer in a number of pubs was that incomparable swill, Carling.
But I agree about the bitters. Seems like too many crafters recently have been on a mega-hops trend that seems like bitters to me.
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Posted: 10/10/2015 7:28 PM
beer stories!

I got married in Mexico five years ago. the all inclusive resort featured imported beer on our side, coors light. I ordered dos equip exclusively for 10 days. haven't touched it since.

a few years ago my peers and I unanimously named Pumpking as the best pumpkin ale. this year we all dislike it. could it have changed? I reach for Schlafleys now when the pumpkin urge appears.

I don't know how I made it through 3 years of quad nights back in the day. I'd love to see the reactions from this board if they were served a quad nowadays. spirits from plastic bottle? blech!

I am typing this wearing Muck Fiami shirt, an annual tradition. 9 out of 10 is impressive!!!
Last Edited: 10/10/2015 7:30:35 PM by Obc2
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Posted: 10/10/2015 11:44 PM
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To paraphrase an earlier post, "OCF, you ignorant swabbie", but I digress. My experience decades ago on a trip to the UK on a special leave from Pleiku, the featured imported beer in a number of pubs was that incomparable swill, Carling.
But I agree about the bitters. Seems like too many crafters recently have been on a mega-hops trend that seems like bitters to me.
Hey Mabel, Black Label! ;-)

So, an ignorant swabbie and arrogant grunt agree. Must be a truism by definition.
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Posted: 10/10/2015 11:48 PM
Gents, for my dollars, Euros and pounds, Guinness is the all-time champion and all others (literally) pale in comparison.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:52 PM
Guinness, harp & smithwick. Are my choice along with a variety of OHIO craft beers.
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