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Pataskala
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Posted: 10/6/2015 12:29 PM
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Refs are flagging players for not shaking hands during the coin toss. Happened to Maryland vs PSU last season; this season it happened at a FL HS game:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-f...

Three ejections and 516 penalty yds means it went far beyond the coin toss.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 5:22 PM
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If this actually happens, I can only hope that the flag goes down as a bench penalty like a bench T in hoops. Especially in HS. Any coach who tolerates this #$#@ from his players in a scholastic athletic contest should be reprimanded. Let's not make the refs the bad guys. In fact, they should be congratulated for insisting on some perspective.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 5:35 PM
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516 total penalty yards, and 3 ejections? The players got off to a bad start, and it only got worse, I guess.
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Posted: 10/6/2015 7:39 PM
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Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
If this actually happens, I can only hope that the flag goes down as a bench penalty like a bench T in hoops. Especially in HS. Any coach who tolerates this #$#@ from his players in a scholastic athletic contest should be reprimanded. Let's not make the refs the bad guys. In fact, they should be congratulated for insisting on some perspective.
Spent one year as a commissioner of a high school league. One team displayed such behavior, removed the coach, behavior reappeared under new coach, team forfeited last seven games. This is about much more than winning.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:34 AM
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Definitely wrong way to handle it.
The minute that starts, send the players back to the bench.
Call the head coaches to the middle of the field.
Make it very clear how you are going to call the game. Tell them the players will come back out and shake hands. if they do not do that, then they will be ejected before the game even starts. No lecture, no anger, just the facts.

At the first sign of trouble, make the call. If both sides are guilty of blatant penalties, etc., and it gets out of hand after that, go to each coach and threaten to call the game.

Somehow "shut up" just is not going to work. As an official I would also want to know who the AD is and where he is. If I suspected this was going to happen, then I'd find them and tell them the same thing. If the thing had been going on the whole first half, I would have found a way at halftime to call it off.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:46 AM
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1stInConvo wrote:expand_more
Definitely wrong way to handle it.
The minute that starts, send the players back to the bench.
Call the head coaches to the middle of the field.
Make it very clear how you are going to call the game. Tell them the players will come back out and shake hands. if they do not do that, then they will be ejected before the game even starts. No lecture, no anger, just the facts.

At the first sign of trouble, make the call. If both sides are guilty of blatant penalties, etc., and it gets out of hand after that, go to each coach and threaten to call the game.

Somehow "shut up" just is not going to work. As an official I would also want to know who the AD is and where he is. If I suspected this was going to happen, then I'd find them and tell them the same thing. If the thing had been going on the whole first half, I would have found a way at halftime to call it off.
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