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Paul Graham
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Posted: 11/2/2015 10:30 AM
A little nitpick here: I typically watch the games via WatchESPN or whatever. During the game the broadcasters always call attention to the same players. The announcers typically have no idea who Ian Wells is (our best DB and NFL prospect) or Blair Brown (our "Slapshot" Hansen Brother in residence and leading tackler). I mean they treat Ian like he's just some run-of-the-mill MAC cornerback! Gasp!

I just ask our SID (or whomever provides Reghi with his crib sheet) to do a little updating so that the spotlight is positioned correctly.

Thank you for your attention and enjoy your Monday!
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:36 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
A little nitpick here: I typically watch the games via WatchESPN or whatever. During the game the broadcasters always call attention to the same players. The announcers typically have no idea who Ian Wells is (our best DB and NFL prospect) or Blair Brown (our "Slapshot" Hansen Brother in residence and leading tackler). I mean they treat Ian like he's just some run-of-the-mill MAC cornerback! Gasp!

I just ask our SID (or whomever provides Reghi with his crib sheet) to do a little updating so that the spotlight is positioned correctly.

Thank you for your attention and enjoy your Monday!
I'm not trying to pick a verbal fight with you and we already had a brief discussion on this subject after the MN loss. At that time I looked at 3 preseason all MAC teams Phil Steele, Athlon and another. Wells was not in the top 4 defenses for Phil Steele, was not listed at all on the one with just two deep and was 4th string all MAC on the other. How does that translate to playing in the NFL?
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Posted: 11/2/2015 4:06 PM
Paul Graham wrote:expand_more
A little nitpick here: I typically watch the games via WatchESPN or whatever. During the game the broadcasters always call attention to the same players. The announcers typically have no idea who Ian Wells is (our best DB and NFL prospect) or Blair Brown (our "Slapshot" Hansen Brother in residence and leading tackler). I mean they treat Ian like he's just some run-of-the-mill MAC cornerback! Gasp!

I just ask our SID (or whomever provides Reghi with his crib sheet) to do a little updating so that the spotlight is positioned correctly.

Thank you for your attention and enjoy your Monday!
Sorry...but these guys all have day jobs and do these WatchESPN games on the side. They do little prep work...basically thumb thru things.

Most of the time they butcher names, etc.

That is what you get when your games are on TV during weeknights and the internet during weekends.

Just more proof of the low-budget, low-rent league the MAC has become.

We should expect more...deserve more...but until the conference demands more and provides more....this is what we are.

Frustrating....but the sad reality.

Toledo is barely ever mentioned when the "experts" talk about the G5 schools like Memphis, Temple and Houston. The league needs to do a better job promoting their success (i.e. Toledo, Matt Johnson, etc)

They just rely on ESPN's weeknight MACtion to take care of their exposure.

This league hasn't really evolved in the last decade...it's just stood dormant and failed to capitalize off NIU success or Ohio basketball success during the Sweet 16 run.

We still have a trash "TV" deal that has 90% of our games on the internet....while I'm able to watch games on ESPN/CBS Sports Network/FSN that involve AAC, CUSA and even Sun Belt and OVC teams.

The MAC has fallen off the national radar.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 4:39 PM
PhiTau74 wrote:expand_more
I'm not trying to pick a verbal fight with you and we already had a brief discussion on this subject after the MN loss. At that time I looked at 3 preseason all MAC teams Phil Steele, Athlon and another. Wells was not in the top 4 defenses for Phil Steele, was not listed at all on the one with just two deep and was 4th string all MAC on the other. How does that translate to playing in the NFL?
No worries. :) I'm basing my assessment on my own eyeballs and Arkley has also mentioned a few times that Wells will get a look in the NFL and that he's our best NFL prospect right now.

http://bit.ly/1Rq5P2Y

The reason he doesn't make preseason lists is that what he does is not really measured. We put him on a team's best WR and he shuts them down. Last week he did that with Buffalo's top WR. Teams have figured this out and now they just throw to other side of the field.

My overall point is that unless the SID or coaches give him publicity, he will go relatively unnoticed because he doesn't register much in the way of stats. Though he does have 2 picks and 9 PD's this year...and thats with offenses completely avoiding him.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 4:41 PM
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Sorry...but these guys all have day jobs and do these WatchESPN games on the side. They do little prep work...basically thumb thru things.
Thats my point. They meet with some Ohio folks and ask them about our team. I'm just asking that the Ohio folks give credit to some folks that deserve it.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 7:43 PM
I'd imagine Ian Wells can be in a pretty big spotlight come Wednesday in Bowling Green.

Best wishes to him and all his defensive mates..
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Posted: 11/2/2015 8:29 PM
Ian Wells is rarely tested so he does not get many of the accolades, but scouts think very highly of his coverage skills. This is a big week for him, call it make or break, BG will test him. Hopefully, the coaches let him match up one on one versus a zone coverage. If he shows well and runs well during the pre-draft, he will be a 4-6 rounder. Here is one sight I found that ranks the MAC players.
http://optimumscouting.com/uncategorized/2976.html
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Posted: 11/2/2015 11:13 PM
I tend to think Wells will get a look. Browsing the web, the most likely candidates for the NFL are Daz, Jovon Johnson, and Wells.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 1:27 AM
Wells, maybe. JJ and Daz--have you watched them and watched pro football?
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:15 AM
Wells is the best pro prospect, Johnson and Daz are a stretch.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:02 AM
For almost all of our players, as we've seen them on the field this year, to think that they are NFL caliber is to not have a clue about the level of athlete which plays in the NFL.

Try this. Turn on a random game, without knowing if it's pro or college. Watch two plays. Look at the size and speed of the players. You will know instantly if you're watching college or pro.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 12:45 PM
When I watch pro football I do see an average size that's bigger than college, but I also see a fair number of small guys that get plenty of playing time. Sometimes quickness and elusiveness beats size at the "skilled positions." Happens in all levels of football. Just open your eyes and you'll see it. An inconvenient fact.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 1:55 PM
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When I watch pro football I do see an average size that's bigger than college, but I also see a fair number of small guys that get plenty of playing time. Sometimes quickness and elusiveness beats size at the "skilled positions." Happens in all levels of football. Just open your eyes and you'll see it. An inconvenient fact.
I'm not sure you understand how explosive and powerful those guys are. You admittedly try and compare great Bobcats from the 60's to today, that just shows how out of touch you are with topics like this.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 2:02 PM
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When I watch pro football I do see an average size that's bigger than college, but I also see a fair number of small guys that get plenty of playing time. Sometimes quickness and elusiveness beats size at the "skilled positions." Happens in all levels of football. Just open your eyes and you'll see it. An inconvenient fact.
I'm not sure you understand how explosive and powerful those guys are. You admittedly try and compare great Bobcats from the 60's to today, that just shows how out of touch you are with topics like this.
As usual you miss the point. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with the assertion that Daz has NFL potential. I was simply commenting on another one of Monroe's selective fact presentations. For the record, I never envisioned Daz as an NFL prospect, but I didn't think Landon Cohen was either, so I'm don't have a good eye for that sort of thing.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 6:53 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
When I watch pro football I do see an average size that's bigger than college, but I also see a fair number of small guys that get plenty of playing time. Sometimes quickness and elusiveness beats size at the "skilled positions." Happens in all levels of football. Just open your eyes and you'll see it. An inconvenient fact.
I'm not sure you understand how explosive and powerful those guys are. You admittedly try and compare great Bobcats from the 60's to today, that just shows how out of touch you are with topics like this.
As usual you miss the point. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with the assertion that Daz has NFL potential. I was simply commenting on another one of Monroe's selective fact presentations. For the record, I never envisioned Daz as an NFL prospect, but I didn't think Landon Cohen was either, so I'm don't have a good eye for that sort of thing.
Landon had the tools, big, quick, strong and a high motor who played to the edge. That was evident early on, and the fact he stuck as many times as he did proves that.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:35 PM
Daz has the tools to be a returner, but he has not done anything special in the=at area this year. He is fast shifty and strong. He probably would be a better returner than Carrie. Wells at 5'11", 202 and a reported 4.36 will bee a sure shot if he finishes strong, he need to tackle better, but I have seen pro coverage shills. Johnson is too small to play linebacker. Heitzman could also be a special teams project at the next level.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:42 PM
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Daz has the tools to be a returner, but he has not done anything special in that area this year. . . .
Did you see his return at Minnesota after the Gophers score the go-ahead TD in the final minutes of the game? He got those yards when we really needed it, and it almost allowed us to tie the game after a few more plays and getting into FG range. Daz has a lot of heart in addition to his skills.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04 PM
You can't be a MAC guy with one return. He has not had a lot of opportunities, hopefully he will get more.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 11:14 PM
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Wells, maybe. JJ and Daz--have you watched them and watched pro football?

I'm not going to project whether or not they will make the NFL, only that they are likely to earn at least mini-camp tryouts, and perhaps a free agent contract. I searched the web for draft prospects on the Bobcats, and those were the three names that came up.

It's not too fair to judge JJ by his last few games, though, as he has been playing hurt. Hopefully against BG he'll be 100% again, or close.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 12:04 AM
Stop being delusional.

The guys in the NFL are EXCEPTIONAL.


That JJ is oft injured ought to be a clue for you. He plays so hard but I suspect that sizewise, he outplays his body. That happening in MAC does not say NFL.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:47 AM
The most wrong I've been about a Bobcat's NFL career was Taylor Price. I thought he'd be in the league for 7-10 years. Obviously Bill Belichick thought so, too.
Last Edited: 11/5/2015 12:48:07 AM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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