Respectfully disagree.

While I'm not saying this year is total failure because we didn't win MACC....it's not a total success because we went 8-4 and won at NIU.

That 3-game stretch cannot be erased from my mind. We were embarrassed when it counted most. As a legit MAC East contender, Ohio got drubbed by 35, 35 & 38 points.

That's troubling to me....especially when I see what the team is capable of when it gets a win like the NIU game and looks capable on offense vs Kent/Ball with a lot of the same personnel.

Why does it work for those three games and not for WMU, UB & BG?

That's where I'm perplexed.

I think this has been a roller-coaster season that I'm grateful finished on a rise and at 8-4. A bowl win would be great.

But I'll still be a little worried going forward, wondering if we're really a MACC caliber program if we can't be consistent when it matters

Nobody on here erases or refuses to acknowledge the losses. They happened. There are multiple reasons that they happened, but they don't include that somehow the coaches forgot how to coach or because they played the wrong players.

Some people, like myself, can move on, choosing to look forward instead of wallowing in the past. What a sad state to live in, concentrating on things that you can't do a darn thing about, trying to prove how smart you are.

When something good happens, like the last three games or a win against Marshall or even a "a dreg", they somehow don't count.

Whatever floats your boat.

Nobody's burning couches. Nobody wants to burn couches. A handful of people on BA.com are congratulatory of a good win. Nothing more. Nothing less.

And, nobody's celebrating mediocrity either. They did pretty well this year. Again, a few people on BA.com recognize that and offer their congratulations. Doing so does not diminish the fans' desire for a MAC Championship. It doesn't mean those people don't value a Championship. It doesn't mean you and a few other are more "in touch" with the true goal of the season.

It's a college team. They're a bunch of kids playing football. They had a good win. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. In my world, you offer congrats and you move on to the next thing.

+1

Actually, the likes of Bcat2 disappeared, failed to acknowledge the three game stank.

The last 3 wins were good (though no one can claim kents and Ball are very good..ugh). But consideration of the overall main goal (MACC) and our performance in the games that determined our chance to MACC should be something this coaching staff is held accountable--especially in light of failure to MACC once in 11 years.

Again, it's pure math. 13 teams in league. No MACC in 11 years begins to mean this coaching staff is less than average. (Zero is less than one for those of you who aren't so numeric.)

Well Monroe, the LSU administration feels the same way you do. LSU's not winning the SECC this year, so they're about to can a coach who's only won 80% of his games and a national championship. #LSUMAKINGHUGEMISTAKE

This last part pretty well sums it up and I agree 100%. Way to distill it down to what it really is.

Hi.

What's wrong with you.

What's wrong with your math..aren't you an engineer?

I blame the refs for the loss. And the Toledo fans with their NIU voodoo dolls. And Obama. And quantum entanglement.

Seriously, good win for Ohio. I think NIU was both outplayed and outcoached. And now we fall over backwards into a MACC game with our new freshman QB playing against BG. I wasn't optimistic about that before Hare got injured, never mind Graham. Seems like Toledo matches up better against them for some reason.

Anyway, good luck in your bowl game!

True. One of highest paid coaches in his league should have a title to show for the big pay day.

A 17-15 conference record the last four years is exactly what it looks like....above average....but not great