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Topic: OOC Schedules Completed Thru 2021
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OhioStunter
12/2/2015 1:02 AM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
Pitt, Northwestern, Boston College, Virginia I give the AD an A for those. Games that reach out to alumni in Pittsburgh, Chicago, Boston, DC living out of state and make great roadies for the core fans.
I couldn't agree more. I've made that point before (more about alumni bases in those areas vs. roadies), so it's good to see that they finally listened to me.
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TWT
12/2/2015 1:13 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Pitt, Northwestern, Boston College, Virginia I give the AD an A for those. Games that reach out to alumni in Pittsburgh, Chicago, Boston, DC living out of state and make great roadies for the core fans.
I couldn't agree more. I've made that point before (more about alumni bases in those areas vs. roadies), so it's good to see that they finally listened to me.
Games in 40,000-50,000 stadiums where its not an enormous step up. Actual crowds of 35,000 with 3,500 traveling Bobcats. Instead of the way most schools in the MAC like to schedule with 2 pay day games against Michigan and Michigan State with opposing talent in another universe. The disparity in size is too great to feel like a true peer.
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bshot44
12/2/2015 1:31 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Surprised Marshall is a home/home for only two seasons.

And Bshott, NC State is an "easy" drive? Really?
6 hrs...400 miles.

That's not too bad to Raleigh
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TWT
12/2/2015 2:40 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Surprised Marshall is a home/home for only two seasons.

And Bshott, NC State is an "easy" drive? Really?
6 hrs...400 miles.

That's not too bad to Raleigh
NC State is playing East Carolina, Old Dominion and Marshall 1 for 1. They don't feel they need to go as far as Athens, Ohio for a series. Athens is in a far corner of the Midwest so it limits interest.
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The Optimist
12/2/2015 4:28 AM
I like this schedule. Lots of games that seem winnable. Always hard to tell this far out... Who would've thought Minnesota would be such a strong program when we scheduled that game. Who knows how Iowa State will be that far out?
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Toast
12/2/2015 8:14 AM
Athens is in the far corner of the midwest? ahhahahahahahahah
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Mike Johnson
12/2/2015 8:14 AM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
We've talked before about scheduling winnable P5 games, I would say this list fits that bill nicely. Ideally would have liked to have seen more than 2 of 8 P5 teams (3 if you count the Purdue deal) make a return trip to Athens but at this point I guess 2 is better than 0. Only other small quibble would be trading one of TX St, LaLa and UMass for a stronger G5 program.

This is a winnable yet respectable schedule, nicely done.


P5 Home Games
Kansas, 2017
Iowa State, 2023


P5 Road Games
Kansas, 2016
Tennessee, 2016
Purdue, 2017
Virginia, 2018
Pitt, 2019
Boston College, 2020
Northwestern, 2021
Iowa State, 2022


G5 H/H Series
Texas State
UMass
Cincinnati
Marshall
La Lafayette
La Lafayette is having a down season at 4-7 with a game to go against a weak Troy (4-7). But LaLa has been tough; its records the last 4 seasons: 9-4,9-4,9-4,9-4 with 4 bowl wins over San Diego State, East Carolina, Tulane, Nevada.
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Bobcatbob
12/2/2015 8:30 AM
It takes more reflection for a BA'er of my vintage to get excited about a schedule going out to 2022. Have to wonder whether Social Security will leave enough for season tix but, H%#$ Yeah, I like this.
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bshot44
12/2/2015 8:37 AM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
Surprised Marshall is a home/home for only two seasons.

And Bshott, NC State is an "easy" drive? Really?
6 hrs...400 miles.

That's not too bad to Raleigh
NC State is playing East Carolina, Old Dominion and Marshall 1 for 1. They don't feel they need to go as far as Athens, Ohio for a series. Athens is in a far corner of the Midwest so it limits interest.
Played them in Raleigh in 1998...nearly beat them. Just saying that's a game I'd like to see them revisit
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Ohio69
12/2/2015 11:06 AM
Great to see we can sneak a Kansas, Cincinnati, and Iowa State into Peden every now and then. I'm surprised we can afford to do so.

Love getting Purdue into the Convo.


(By the way I'm pretty sure Ohio will not be hosting its "first ever Big 12 opponent at Peden when Kansas returns..." We played Iowa State in Peden under Knorr.)
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Turney13
12/2/2015 9:11 PM
I've been hoping for a game with Boston College since 1990 - it will only take 30 years. Jim Schaus came to my office in NYC in 2008 - I begged him to play Boston College. But I'm sure that had very little to do with it being scheduled.
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OhioCatFan
12/3/2015 5:21 PM
Turney13 wrote:expand_more
I've been hoping for a game with Boston College since 1990 - it will only take 30 years. Jim Schaus came to my office in NYC in 2008 - I begged him to play Boston College. But I'm sure that had very little to do with it being scheduled.
For some reason MAC teams have for the most part in recent years have done very badly against BC. From memory I think the best that a MAC team has done against BC was a 31-24 loss in Mt. Pleasant in the previous decade. Hope OHIO breaks the jinx.

Edit: Actually when checking more closely I find that NIU lost to BC this year by a close 17-14 score, but as I said many of the MAC vs. BC games have been blowouts or near blowouts.
Last Edited: 12/4/2015 10:19:43 PM by OhioCatFan
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OhioCatFan
12/4/2015 10:11 PM
[One of my more profound statements]: Blank, blank and blank. ;-)
Last Edited: 12/4/2015 10:13:15 PM by OhioCatFan
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The Optimist
12/5/2015 2:36 AM
Toast wrote:expand_more
Athens is in the far corner of the midwest? ahhahahahahahahah
I don't think this is that ridiculous.

I've always considered Ohio the eastern edge of the Midwest. I really view SE Ohio more as Appalachia than Midwestern, but I would consider Columbus pretty Midwest, and Athens is just a notch SE of that.
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OhioCatFan
12/5/2015 2:15 PM
Well, most folks in Ohio, in all parts of the state, consider themselves to be living in the Midwest. When I lived Missouri most folks considered Ohio in the East. I've run into the same attitudes in places like Nebraska and Iowa.
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Bcat2
12/9/2015 8:08 PM
Question is, has NIU gotten Ohio were they want them? Answer. Off the schedule.
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Alan Swank
12/9/2015 8:38 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Well, most folks in Ohio, in all parts of the state, consider themselves to be living in the Midwest. When I lived Missouri most folks considered Ohio in the East. I've run into the same attitudes in places like Nebraska and Iowa.
Don't think so OCF. The folks in NE Ohio do not consider themselves in the midwest - they are Browns fans and that's certainly not the midwest. Here in se Ohio, we are Appalachia plain and simple, Driving to Columbus as I do on a very regular basis, anything west of 23 is moving into the farming midwest.
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Mark Lembright '85
12/9/2015 9:05 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Well, most folks in Ohio, in all parts of the state, consider themselves to be living in the Midwest. When I lived Missouri most folks considered Ohio in the East. I've run into the same attitudes in places like Nebraska and Iowa.
Don't think so OCF. The folks in NE Ohio do not consider themselves in the midwest - they are Browns fans and that's certainly not the midwest. Here in se Ohio, we are Appalachia plain and simple, Driving to Columbus as I do on a very regular basis, anything west of 23 is moving into the farming midwest.
Ehh I don't know about that Alan. Here in NE Ohio we certainly don't consider ourselves to be in the East. Mideast maybe. The TV stations and radio stations up here usually refer to this area as being part of the Midwest. And unfortunately, you won't find too many people publically admit they're Browns fans, and for good reason.....
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OhioCatFan
12/9/2015 9:16 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Well, most folks in Ohio, in all parts of the state, consider themselves to be living in the Midwest. When I lived Missouri most folks considered Ohio in the East. I've run into the same attitudes in places like Nebraska and Iowa.
Don't think so OCF. The folks in NE Ohio do not consider themselves in the midwest - they are Browns fans and that's certainly not the midwest. Here in se Ohio, we are Appalachia plain and simple, Driving to Columbus as I do on a very regular basis, anything west of 23 is moving into the farming midwest.
Come now, Alan. I've been in virtually all parts of this state, and your analysis is not quite totally accurate. I'm not talking about geography, but what people will say if you ask them about their location. Their self perception of their region is what I was talking about. I guess I know different folks in Cleveland than you do. Most Clevelanders I know think of themselves as more midwesterners than easterners. Some areas right along the Pennsylvania border might think of themselves as a bit eastern, but the Feds in their wisdom recently classified Ashtabula County as part of Appalachia. I know many folks in SEO who really don't think of themselves or their region as Appalachia. As I mentioned in another post, this term was virtually never used in the 1950s and earlier to describe SEO. It's almost entirely a function of the Federal designation which occurred in the 1960s, with the creation of the Appalachian Regional Commission and the attendant flow of federal dollars that came along with that designation, which helped reshape our area in some good ways and in some not so good ways (but that's another discussion). This is to be sure a complex subject, but easy classifications like, west of Rt. 23 is the Midwest just don't fly. One of my sisters has a Ph.D. in Romance Linguists and has some very interesting analysis of various Ohio regions in terms of accent and dialect, etc. One of her points that may surprise you is that from a linguistic standpoint all native Ohioans slur their words to one degree or another, except in the far northwest corner of the state where the enunciation is more crisp. She once demonstrated this for me by saying the name of our state the way it is pronounced in the different regions. It was entertaining, educational and a bit funny.
Last Edited: 12/9/2015 9:23:11 PM by OhioCatFan
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The Optimist
12/9/2015 10:03 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Well, most folks in Ohio, in all parts of the state, consider themselves to be living in the Midwest. When I lived Missouri most folks considered Ohio in the East. I've run into the same attitudes in places like Nebraska and Iowa.
Don't think so OCF. The folks in NE Ohio do not consider themselves in the midwest - they are Browns fans and that's certainly not the midwest. Here in se Ohio, we are Appalachia plain and simple, Driving to Columbus as I do on a very regular basis, anything west of 23 is moving into the farming midwest.

Disagree. I think most people here in NEO consider in the midwest. I always have thought of Cleveland & Akron as Midwest/Rust Belt/Great Lakes. I consider the Ohio/PA line the border of the Midwest and the East.
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The Optimist
12/9/2015 10:08 PM
I think the belief that Ohio is the start of the Midwest dates back to the Northwest Territory. In my mind, that is the Midwest. Every east of there was part of the original US... The Northwest Territory became the midwest as we expanded.

I know some in the Great Plains feel Cleveland is "east" but here in Cleveland, I certainly feel I relate more to the lifestyle of someone in Omaha than someone in Boston.
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L.C.
12/9/2015 10:30 PM
Having been to Cleveland many times, since my college roommate was from there, and also having spent time in the East, I would agree that Cleveland has a very mid-western feel, and that it has far more in common with Omaha than Boston.
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Mike Johnson
12/10/2015 8:15 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
I think the belief that Ohio is the start of the Midwest dates back to the Northwest Territory. In my mind, that is the Midwest. Every east of there was part of the original US... The Northwest Territory became the midwest as we expanded.

I know some in the Great Plains feel Cleveland is "east" but here in Cleveland, I certainly feel I relate more to the lifestyle of someone in Omaha than someone in Boston.
In 1787 in Boston in the Bunch of Grapes Tavern, The NORTHWEST Ordinance took shape and embraced territory that was to include Ohio. It called for the establishment of an institution of higher learning that was to be named American WESTERN University - and in 1804 became The Ohio University.
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Mike Johnson
12/10/2015 8:20 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Having been to Cleveland many times, since my college roommate was from there, and also having spent time in the East, I would agree that Cleveland has a very mid-western feel, and that it has far more in common with Omaha than Boston.
Interestingly, although Ohio was part of the Northwest Territory that was covered by the 1787 Northwest Ordinance, Cleveland was part of what was known as the Western Reserve, with Connecticut origins. Cleveland's history museum operates as the Western Reserve Historical Society.

You see 'west' in Northwest and Western which easily explains why so many people today regard Ohio as part of the mid-west.
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Bcat2
12/10/2015 8:28 AM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Having been to Cleveland many times, since my college roommate was from there, and also having spent time in the East, I would agree that Cleveland has a very mid-western feel, and that it has far more in common with Omaha than Boston.
Interestingly, although Ohio was part of the Northwest Territory that was covered by the 1787 Northwest Ordinance, Cleveland was part of what was known as the Western Reserve, with Connecticut origins. Cleveland's history museum operates as the Western Reserve Historical Society.

You see 'west' in Northwest and Western which easily explains why so many people today regard Ohio as part of the mid-west.
And on a side note, how many regions claim to be America's "Heartland" or "Parkland"?
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