That may be true and he was a great coach, but the landscape was much different in those days. I recall that when we won the national championship we were in the "college division". I'm thinking it was similar to a 1-AA classification. There wasn't as much money being thrown around and the P-5 or Big 6 leagues weren't as greedy and would play the likes of us on a regular basis.

Hmmm...and did not the Cats win the MAC title in '63 with an overall 6-4 record? This is another test of my sometimes murky memory.

One point - Peden and Hess had less resources than today, but the foes they played also had less resources than today. Costs have escalated all around, and it's s different game today.

Coach Hess' National Championship in 1960 was for the "College Division". The 20th in the nation finish in '68 was at what today is the FBS/D-IA level, and remains the highest of any Ohio football team end of the year finish ever, including anything the current staff has thrown on the field. In addition thereto, unless you think the schedules in '58, '59 and '60 were creampuffs, his victory over Louisville (P5 team today) was in 1958.

I do not remember the details, but I do remember that that Boston University victory was considered a big upset. They played a University Division schedule, though their overall record was not that good:



G School Opponent Conf Pts Opp W L T
1 Boston University (19)Penn State Ind L 0 20 0 1 0
2 Boston University (2)Syracuse Ind L 7 35 0 2 0
3 Boston University Holy Cross Ind W 20 14 1 2 0
4 Boston University Ohio Non-Major L 6 36 1 3 0
5 Boston University George Washington Southern T 0 0 1 3 1
6 Boston University Connecticut Non-Major L 14 16 1 4 1
7 Boston University Massachusetts Non-Major W 20 7 2 4 1
8 Boston University West Virginia Southern T 7 7 2 4 2
9 Boston University Boston College Ind L 14 23 2 5 2
10 Boston University Buffalo Non-Major W 42 14 3 5 2

Actually gentlemen, it is about apples and apples. The losses that people have complained about since 2012 have all been MAC games and why we cannot compete for the MACC on a regular basis. If you then go back and look at the Bill Hess era you will see familiar names on those schedules like Miami, Kent State, Bowling Green, Western Michigan, Toledo, Central Michigan, Northern Illinois and even Marshall. In 1960 Ohio played MAC foes Toledo, Kent State, Miami, Western Michigan, Bowling Green and Marshall and outscored the competition 151-22. As was stated above, Ohio only gave up 34 points on defense the entire year, something our defense this year managed to exceed in three successive games to MAC schools Western Michigan, Buffalo and Bowling Green. Ghee, those names sound familiar? So yes, the concern on this Board in part is because we have not been able to achieve a MAC Championship under our current staff and some of you make out that it is next to impossible to accomplish. For others who have seen it happen at this institution, our patience is running rather thin. Enough of the "wait until next year" crap, it is time to produce.

Go Bobcats!