I'm relieved to see that Monroe is conceding that even as horrible as he thinks OUr program is, a Big 12 Kansas team is considered a patsy by Ohio standards. So, we got that going for us. By the way I got vilified a couple of years ago by an unnamed, self-appointed blowhard poster for pointing out that Kansas was never a football power. So much has changed!
Personally, I think this team, this year needs to win a division championship and earn a trip to Detroit with wins in head to head games (no backing in) to be successful. Doesn't mean 8-4 and a bowl game isn't a "good" season, it just means that it's time to win. I believe that anything less than that would and should be a disappointment to all involved. Not life threatening - just a disappointment.
Yes. As Toledo was last season. Same with Western and NIU. Disappointment is a part of competing. I wonder if Monroe and his golf. They must hit hole in ones every round. Any golfers out there? How many years since your last hole in one?
A hole-in-one I would classify as perfection.
I don't think anyone expects Ohio football to be perfect.
But going 8-5 with three ass-kickings isn't "good".....it's okay or decent in my view.
Bcat2.....please expound on your definition of a "good season"....or let me guess.....every season is a good season?
You can still suffer disappointment and have a good or great season.
In 2012, Ohio basketball made the Sweet 16 and lost a heartbreaker to UNC. That was disappointing to come THISclose and not finish it off. But it was a great season!
Ohio has had some good/great football seasons despite losing MACC.
But failing to make it there or even truly be in competition for a spot there the last few years isn't just disappointing....it's not good.