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mid70sbobcat
3/16/2016 7:45 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42
For the umpteenth time .. a MACC does NOT in any way constitute a successful season. Your criteria is rather asinine. You're clearly in the minority here on BA. And it's 100% clear Schaus doesn't agree with you. Nor most anyone else. So go on .... obsess over your rigid mandate that only a MACC means 'success'. It's also clear you don't comprehend stats at all.
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D.A.
3/16/2016 7:51 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42

Probably 13-31. Beautiful day, huge turnout for my tailgate, had sideline passes, great post game action. I had a great time.
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Monroe Slavin
3/17/2016 2:51 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42
For the umpteenth time .. a MACC does NOT in any way constitute a successful season. Your criteria is rather asinine. You're clearly in the minority here on BA. And it's 100% clear Schaus doesn't agree with you. Nor most anyone else. So go on .... obsess over your rigid mandate that only a MACC means 'success'. It's also clear you don't comprehend stats at all.
Get into it.
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Monroe Slavin
3/17/2016 2:51 AM
D.A. wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42

Probably 13-31. Beautiful day, huge turnout for my tailgate, had sideline passes, great post game action. I had a great time.

So, winning means little to you.
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L.C.
3/18/2016 8:20 PM
There is an article on the linebackers that is worth reading at OhioBobcats.com

It talks about the three returning linebackers (Poling, Brown, and Moore) and says they are being pushed by Croutch, Taylor, and Brunson, so that means that the depth is developing nicely, which answers one of my two defensive concerns. Behind them are walkons Koons, Stein, and Clack.
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Mike Johnson
3/18/2016 9:24 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
There is an article on the linebackers that is worth reading at OhioBobcats.com

It talks about the three returning linebackers (Poling, Brown, and Moore) and says they are being pushed by Croutch, Taylor, and Brunson, so that means that the depth is developing nicely, which answers one of my two defensive concerns. Behind them are walkons Koons, Stein, and Clack.
I am hoping that one of those doing the pushing is faster than Moore who clearly doesn't have Jovon Johnson's speed.
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Bcat2
3/18/2016 9:41 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
There is an article on the linebackers that is worth reading at OhioBobcats.com

It talks about the three returning linebackers (Poling, Brown, and Moore) and says they are being pushed by Croutch, Taylor, and Brunson, so that means that the depth is developing nicely, which answers one of my two defensive concerns. Behind them are walkons Koons, Stein, and Clack.
I am hoping that one of those doing the pushing is faster than Moore who clearly doesn't have Jovon Johnson's speed.
Wait til Ohio has to replace Big Ben and AP.
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Doc Bobcat
3/19/2016 11:32 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
There is an article on the linebackers that is worth reading at OhioBobcats.com

It talks about the three returning linebackers (Poling, Brown, and Moore) and says they are being pushed by Croutch, Taylor, and Brunson, so that means that the depth is developing nicely, which answers one of my two defensive concerns. Behind them are walkons Koons, Stein, and Clack.
What happened to OLB Travis Daugherty?
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Bobcatzblitz
3/19/2016 3:41 PM
Jovon Johnson will be missed he was an animal
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Bcat2
3/19/2016 3:45 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
There is an article on the linebackers that is worth reading at OhioBobcats.com

It talks about the three returning linebackers (Poling, Brown, and Moore) and says they are being pushed by Croutch, Taylor, and Brunson, so that means that the depth is developing nicely, which answers one of my two defensive concerns. Behind them are walkons Koons, Stein, and Clack.
I am hoping that one of those doing the pushing is faster than Moore who clearly doesn't have Jovon Johnson's speed.
Tackle wise, as a soph, Chad's 51 is eleven more Jovon's 40 last season. His 51 is 16 more than his brother Kieth recorded as a junior in 2011. Kieth finished with a team leading 95 in 2012. Chad may never make 95, but, anywhere close would be sweet. Kieth did not have Jovon's speed either.
Last Edited: 3/24/2016 4:13:48 PM by Bcat2
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D.A.
3/20/2016 9:47 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42

Probably 13-31. Beautiful day, huge turnout for my tailgate, had sideline passes, great post game action. I had a great time.

So, winning means little to you.
There was a time in my life where I was an athletic professional, and winning was everything, and I was an ass at times. Now I have perspective, I enjoy things beyond just winning, and I am much less an ass.
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Monroe Slavin
3/20/2016 2:27 PM
D.A. wrote:expand_more
Yeah, most of us wouldn't want to be the national champion.

Thank you for being the voice of OHIO FOOTBALL.

Without you, we wouldn't understand that it's more important to have Solich than to achieve.
It's clear most BA'ers ignore your drivel and don't reply. But at times your posts are so unintelligible that one can't ignore them. First, Ohio will NEVER will a national championship in football. Next, "more important to have Solich than to achieve"? Huh? Really? You, who rants about FACTS seem to ignore such.

Let's go back 75 years to when Bill Hess took over in the late 50's and we can see what the FACTS say.

Hess 20 years 54% winning percentage
Kappes 1 year 27%
Burke 6 years 48%
Bryant 5 years 18%
Lichtenburg 5 years 14%
Grobe 6 years 50%
Knorr 4 years 24%

Solich 11 years 57%

So we have the guy who's done the best as far as winning running the program. Never mind he's the biggest 'name' we've landed to run the program. And all you do is whine. Go root for UCLA or USC if you feel our program is so mediocre.

Get into it. Really.

Then, try presenting other stats like years each coach was here, number of titles each won, the number of crashing huge losses each experienced in the last third or so of their tenure.

Also consider, that if you compare Solich to guys who've only won at, for example, 28% clip then he's the greatest coach ever. But if you're standards are slightly higher--one MAC title in 11 years--maybe you're less reverent.

Which of these did you enjoy more by our terrific coaching staff in their 10th and 11th years:
14-49
17-41
24-62
3-20
14-44
10-28
13-31
21-42

Probably 13-31. Beautiful day, huge turnout for my tailgate, had sideline passes, great post game action. I had a great time.

So, winning means little to you.
There was a time in my life where I was an athletic professional, and winning was everything, and I was an ass at times. Now I have perspective, I enjoy things beyond just winning, and I am much less an ass.

Understood. But there's a difference between winning being "everything" and winning being the first priority.

First as in 'first,' as in most important.

For instance, if I pay money to go to an athletic contest and I have a rooting interest, then I can say that it's almost 100% true that the most important thing is that I want my side to win. If my side wins then I'll care generally little for the bad food or lack of lighting or bad seats etc.

'cause if I was first concerned about a pleasant time with friends or seeing good scenery, my first choice would probably not be paying to see a sports contest.

Winning, first.
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Bobcatbob
3/21/2016 8:58 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
For instance, if I pay money to go to an athletic contest and I have a rooting interest, then I can say that it's almost 100% true that the most important thing is that I want my side to win. If my side wins then I'll care generally little for the bad food or lack of lighting or bad seats etc.

'cause if I was first concerned about a pleasant time with friends or seeing good scenery, my first choice would probably not be paying to see a sports contest.

Winning, first.
Reluctantly, with this insight I have to engage in this by saying yours must be a very disappointing existence if the idea of seeing your team lose is reason enough to skip the contest. Never mind the friends you'll see there, the familiar and comfortable surroundings, the chance to see something no one has ever seen before, the opportunity to make a statement of confidence with your presence. All of those things come before winning at all costs for me and I'm a pretty solid fan, I think.
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Monroe Slavin
3/21/2016 5:58 PM
Those things add color. But if we're not playing the games to win them, then we oughtn't to be playing the games.

Could spend the money on better things, avoid the young men getting injured, etc.

A football program not particularly dedicated to winning.

YES. AND IT DOESN'T COUNT.
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Monroe Slavin
3/24/2016 8:03 PM
Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
For instance, if I pay money to go to an athletic contest and I have a rooting interest, then I can say that it's almost 100% true that the most important thing is that I want my side to win. If my side wins then I'll care generally little for the bad food or lack of lighting or bad seats etc.

'cause if I was first concerned about a pleasant time with friends or seeing good scenery, my first choice would probably not be paying to see a sports contest.

Winning, first.
Reluctantly, with this insight I have to engage in this by saying yours must be a very disappointing existence if the idea of seeing your team lose is reason enough to skip the contest. Never mind the friends you'll see there, the familiar and comfortable surroundings, the chance to see something no one has ever seen before, the opportunity to make a statement of confidence with your presence. All of those things come before winning at all costs for me and I'm a pretty solid fan, I think.

You don't need a football game to enjoy all those things--seeing friends, nice surroundings, etc.

Those are great things.

But if we're going to play football, we must play to win.

It makes no sense to play if the first goal is not winning.


There.
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BuddyLee
3/24/2016 10:30 PM
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

If you are a serious sports fan you should feel this way. If you are a casual fan or go to games just to socialize then probably not. We need more serious sports fans at Ohio.
Last Edited: 3/24/2016 10:33:09 PM by BuddyLee
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Bcat2
3/25/2016 12:08 AM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

If you are a serious sports fan you should feel this way. If you are a casual fan or go to games just to socialize then probably not. We need more serious sports fans at Ohio.
Question, which team leads the MAC in attendance? Next, how is Ohio's attendance trending, up or down? Don't look now, but, fan wise Ohio is doing better than ever. Guess things are OK or not, whatever floats your boat.
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Monroe Slavin
3/25/2016 3:14 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

If you are a serious sports fan you should feel this way. If you are a casual fan or go to games just to socialize then probably not. We need more serious sports fans at Ohio.
Question, which team leads the MAC in attendance? Next, how is Ohio's attendance trending, up or down? Don't look now, but, fan wise Ohio is doing better than ever. Guess things are OK or not, whatever floats your boat.
That is not the discussion here.

The discussion here is about the lack of marked winning, the too many recent crashing losses.

DEAL WITH IT.
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Terry Lee
3/25/2016 8:35 AM
I though the discussion was about spring practice.
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Bcat2
3/25/2016 9:14 AM
Terry Lee wrote:expand_more
I though the discussion was about spring practice.
Thank you.
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mid70sbobcat
3/26/2016 8:30 AM
Terry Lee wrote:expand_more
I though the discussion was about spring practice.

It should be ...... but Monroe continues to hijack many threads, even some on the basketball forum, and turn them into rants about our supposed lack of winning and implied 'mediocrity' and it digresses away from the thread title.
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Monroe Slavin
3/26/2016 2:02 PM
I do thank you for recognizing that I'm dealing with reality, that I'm bringing the reality.



How about this? In about the worst conference in D1 football, in 11 years this coaching staff has not won a MAC title and has averaged about 3.5 crashing losses in each of the last four years.

Whenever it is that we hire a new coach (for whatever reason) will you be in any way happy if that's the background we hire?

If not, why are you in any way happy with it now?


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Bcat2
3/26/2016 7:47 PM
New stuff from Arkley. Messenger Article.

Search for depth continues for Ohio LBs

By Jason Arkley Messenger Staff Journalist

http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/sear...

notables from the short scrimmage on Friday:

"— Bo Hardy, a fifth-year senior, has moved from RB to safety this spring. He had the best ‘hit’ of the series on the first play when he cut down RB Maleek Irons for a 1-yard loss.

— Early enrollee WR Cameron Odom hauled in a 47-yard gain on a deep throw down the left sideline. Odom clearly caused some separation from the corner while the ball was in the air."

Lots more.
Last Edited: 3/26/2016 8:35:23 PM by Bcat2
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Bcat2
3/26/2016 8:32 PM
From ohiobobcats.com

@OhioFootball Wraps Up Third Week of Spring Practice With Night Practice
Bobcats practice in Walter Fieldhouse Friday Night

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/03251...

"Some highlights from the scripted scrimmage were long runs from redshirt junior Dorian Brown (Pittsburg, Pa.) and redshirt sophomore C.J. Hilliard (Cincinnati, Ohio). Redshirt freshman quarterback Quinton Maxwell (Rayville, Mo.) hooked up with freshman wideout Cameron Odom (Bedford, Ohio) on a 40-plus yard touchdown pass.

On the defensive side of the ball, redshirt sophomore Jalen Fox (Cincinnati, Ohio) was flying around making plays while redshirt junior safety Grant Cunningham (Brecksville, Ohio) came up with a few pass breakups and an interception."
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Daubenmire88
3/26/2016 9:12 PM
Planning on coming up from NC to spring game. Anybody have any insight on scope? Sometimes it is just a light practice because of injuries, etc. We still are planning on coming but want to gain any insight on what to expect.
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