Carlos Santana can't hit. The king of .182 average. He's sort of portly, certainly no speed merchant.

Terry Francona moves him from clean-up 4th batter to leadoff, the traditional province of speedsters.

What does it do for The Tribe?


Note that Francona is a manager who has won championships: "Terry Francona is the only manager in Major League history to win his first eight consecutive World Series games and just the second manager to guide two Red Sox clubs to World Series titles, the other being Bill "Rough" Carrigan who led Boston to back-to-back championships in 1915 and 1916." Wikipedia

Nearly a century with no World Series title and Francona gets them two.


Contrast the incredibly conservative lack of imagination of a coach who has not won a MACC in 11 years.



I know. You SFB won't get it at all.

I know2. Wikipedia is a liberal construct so, of course, the alleged facts above about Terry Francona can't be true.

7,000 posts and you finally get something right!!

cc--My Man!

Like it wasn't foreseeable that you and the rest of the SFB would react with obloquy instead of meeting the thesis or acknowledging that it holds some truth.

Yeah yeah yeah. Let's see what Santana's batting average is a month from now.

More importantly, the Tribe has taken 2 straight from the Tigers. Don't think they did that at all last year.

Not in Cleveland he doesn't. No one does in this city anymore. Maybe, just maybe Lebron will change that. We'll see.

When did Carlos Santana give up the guitar ?
Isn't he kind of old to playing baseball,even for the Indians ?

You probably won't agree with this but here goes. I attended Ohio from 1990-1995. I suffered through the Lichtenberg era. I was part of the few dozen students who made it through the end of games. I helped tear down the goalposts when we beat Kent State in 1994.

I don't like "mediocrity" but the state of our program is so much better than where it was when I was a student and that is my basis of comparison. I love the fact that we are a respected program. I love the fact that every year I think we can contend. We are no longer the laughingstock that defined my time at Ohio.

Does this mean I have a different definition of success than you do? Probably. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the program but some of your posts seem to come out of left field. That's fine. It's a message board, it's not the board room. While I visit this site to get information about the program, it's also a great distraction for me.

I still think it's a stretch to compare what Francona did with Santana to Frank trying something new. But if the Tribe wins the division by 1 game and it's due to Santana's homer off of Verlander on Friday, I may feel differently.

Did the Tribe win yesterday?


I've long stated that the main standard is wins and losses.

It'a a fair standard when the coaches are being paid.