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Posted: 4/3/2016 4:52 AM
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His agents need to market him better, he is way faster than a 4.55 guy. Our schemes contributed to the easy catches he often gave up. His only issue is tackling. I hope he gets a lot of private workouts and gets drafted. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/31/draft-ro... /
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His agents need to market him better, he is way faster than a 4.55 guy. Our schemes contributed to the easy catches he often gave up. His only issue is tackling. I hope he gets a lot of private workouts and gets drafted. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/31/draft-ro... /
"Way faster than a 4.55?" So the timers were bad or what?
"Our schemes contributed to catches he often gave up?"

Hey, I think he can be a player in the NFL, but really? The 2 plays I remember most in 2015 were during the Minnesota game. We should have won the game. On Minnesota's final drive to win, there was a ball that was an easy interception. Wells dropped it. It was game over at that point. On the same drive, he was called for pass interference. Ugh, in a game against a Big Ten opponent that was clearly winnable you need those plays.

I hope he gets drafted too, but if he is way faster than a 4.55, it will be proven in upcoming workouts.
Players that fast do not slip through the cracks.

Go Bobcats !!!
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:24 AM
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Wells will get his opportunity, and you may want to work on your CBA credentials, could be a lucrative side job.
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I believe Ian is a day 3 draftee but definitely a UDFA. That article hit the nail with the hammer speaking about Ohio's defensive scheme. We have a NFL defensive scheme with how zone defenders pass receivers off to other defenders. If he does get drafted it will be by a team that utilizes that zone scheme. My teams would be Tampa Bay Bucs, Minnesota Vikings, Carolina Panthers and Pittsburgh Steelers.
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His agents need to market him better, he is way faster than a 4.55 guy. Our schemes contributed to the easy catches he often gave up. His only issue is tackling. I hope he gets a lot of private workouts and gets drafted. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/31/draft-ro... /
"Way faster than a 4.55?" So the timers were bad or what?
"Our schemes contributed to catches he often gave up?"

Hey, I think he can be a player in the NFL, but really? The 2 plays I remember most in 2015 were during the Minnesota game. We should have won the game. On Minnesota's final drive to win, there was a ball that was an easy interception. Wells dropped it. It was game over at that point. On the same drive, he was called for pass interference. Ugh, in a game against a Big Ten opponent that was clearly winnable you need those plays.

I hope he gets drafted too, but if he is way faster than a 4.55, it will be proven in upcoming workouts.
Players that fast do not slip through the cracks.

Go Bobcats !!!

+1 I am talking about our cover 4 that allows wr's to come underneath and get yards. So that sometimes counts as him being targeted, however he is carrying out his assignment. I am tired of hearing he is not that athletic, he has one of the highest verticals, huge broad jump and nice 40.
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I believe Ian is a day 3 draftee but definitely a UDFA. That article hit the nail with the hammer speaking about Ohio's defensive scheme. We have a NFL defensive scheme with how zone defenders pass receivers off to other defenders. If he does get drafted it will be by a team that utilizes that zone scheme. My teams would be Tampa Bay Bucs, Minnesota Vikings, Carolina Panthers and Pittsburgh Steelers.

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In the cover-4 his responsibility is deep, if that is where his receiver goes. He is essentially man on man most of the time. What they are saying is that he plays his man-on-man well off the receiver, rather than in press coverage, which allows the receiver to catch short passes.

If his man goes deep, and another receiver comes underneath, that is the job of the OLB to cover.

Based on his pro day results, Wells may have moved from an UFA to a late round pick. It will make draft day more interesting, having him in contention.
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In the cover-4 his responsibility is deep, if that is where his receiver goes. He is essentially man on man most of the time. What they are saying is that he plays his man-on-man well off the receiver, rather than in press coverage, which allows the receiver to catch short passes.

If his man goes deep, and another receiver comes underneath, that is the job of the OLB to cover.

Based on his pro day results, Wells may have moved from an UFA to a late round pick. It will make draft day more interesting, having him in contention.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 2:51 PM
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It's worth remembering that Wells was not someone highly touted by the recruiting services. He's a guy that showed up at the Cincinnati camp and impressed the coaches, not with film, but with what he showed them in the camp. The 2016 recruiting class has a number of players that the staff found the same way. I hope they turn out as well.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 7:09 PM
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What MAC guys are likely to be drafted?
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What MAC guys are likely to be drafted?

Here are a couple articles that guess at the answer to your question:
http://ngscsports.com/2016/01/24/top-2016-nfl-draft-prosp... /
http://optimumscouting.com/uncategorized/2976.html

Roger Lewis, WR, BG, 3rd to 4th round
Jatavias Brown, LB, Akron, 3rd to 4th round
Willie Beavers, OT, WMU, 3rd to 4th round
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass, 4th-5th round
Daniel Braverman, WR, WMU, 4th-5th round
Alex Huettel, OG, BG, 5th round
Darryl Monroe, ILB, Akron, 5th-6th round
Jordan Williams, WR, Ball State, 5th-6th round
Matt Johnson, QB, BG, projected 6th round
Alonzo Russell, WR, Toledo, projected 7th round
Travis Greene, RB, BG, projected 7th round
Trent Voss, OLB, Toledo, projected 7th round

BG - loses 4
Akron, WMU, Toledo - lose 2
UMass, Ball State - lose 1
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Posted: 4/4/2016 2:06 AM
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Nobody in the first two rounds.

Bad conference, man. Bad #$&%*ing conference, man.

At least the staff at OHIO is bringing in top talent.
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His official pro day results: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=1...

41 inch verticle with a 4.49 forty-yard dash should definitely get 7th round. I wish he would've put up on the bench and 3-cone but 1.43 is very decent for 10 yard dash. 11'04" broad jump is impressive as well. That broad jump may get him drafted along with the forty.
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He had a low of 4.42, hopefully he gets some private workouts.
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He has jumped up a few spots according to sites like NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=C...

He is up to the #43 ranked CB. Over the last 5 years an average of 32 CB's have been drafted a year. He still has work to do, but he is trending in the right direction.
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Once you get below the top twenty or so, it is anyone's guess who among the next thirty will hear their name called. At that point, all it takes is one team that really wants him.

The fact that Carrie has done well should also help him some.
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He also returned kicks and had a blocked kick so special teams will be important as well.
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I hope he gets drafted too, but if he is way faster than a 4.55, it will be proven in upcoming workouts.
Players that fast do not slip through the cracks.
He did prove it. He ran a freaking 4.38 40 on pro day. Or am I missing something?

Wells has the athleticism and cover skills. The only question is if he has the size and physicality.

He was a lock-down corner for us and he did it despite the fact that he played with the worst group of safeties we've had in the Solich Era.
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I hope he gets drafted too, but if he is way faster than a 4.55, it will be proven in upcoming workouts.
Players that fast do not slip through the cracks.
He did prove it. He ran a freaking 4.38 40 on pro day. Or am I missing something?

Wells has the athleticism and cover skills. The only question is if he has the size and physicality.

He was a lock-down corner for us and he did it despite the fact that he played with the worst group of safeties we've had in the Solich Era.

We agree, only three teams saw this, hence his agents needs to market him a lot better. He needs to get individual workouts and interviews. His size is normal for a corner, tackling is a little bad. He was a lock down corner, stats show he gave up more receptions than he did because of our cover 4 scheme. I hope he gets drafted just like everyone else.
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Allan, it is an interesting question how the Cover-4 will affect him. In the Cover-2 the cornerback mostly covers short passes and is responsible for run support on sweeps, and always has deep support on passes. In the cover-4, the OLB takes the short passes and the sweeps, while the corner covers deep passes, and rarely has deep support. Thus in Cover-2, the tackling ability of a cornerback on run support is important, while in Cover-4 the ability of the corner to cover man on man with no deep support is important.

Bass excelled in the Cover-2 because he was a sure tackler on sweeps, and did a good job on short passes, but Bass was burned deep a lot in the Cover-4. Conversely, Wells did better in the Cover-4, where his 1:1 skills were used to advantage, and he wasn't responsible for run support.

In the NFL they mostly run a Cover-2, I believe, so Wells' ability to tackle may or may not be an issue. I'm sure that Wells' abilities will match closer to some teams defensive schemes than others, but that's ok; it only takes one team to draft him.
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Allan, it is an interesting question how the Cover-4 will affect him. In the Cover-2 the cornerback mostly covers short passes and is responsible for run support on sweeps, and always has deep support on passes. In the cover-4, the OLB takes the short passes and the sweeps, while the corner covers deep passes, and rarely has deep support. Thus in Cover-2, the tackling ability of a cornerback on run support is important, while in Cover-4 the ability of the corner to cover man on man with no deep support is important.

Bass excelled in the Cover-2 because he was a sure tackler on sweeps, and did a good job on short passes, but Bass was burned deep a lot in the Cover-4. Conversely, Wells did better in the Cover-4, where his 1:1 skills were used to advantage, and he wasn't responsible for run support.

In the NFL they mostly run a Cover-2, I believe, so Wells' ability to tackle may or may not be an issue. I'm sure that Wells' abilities will match closer to some teams defensive schemes than others, but that's ok; it only takes one team to draft him.

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From #43 to #31 is a pretty big jump...though still late date draft.
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Wow! Yes! I was hoping for some good news regarding Wells.
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I knew he would creep up the bored. The broad jump and the forty are too good to not get drafted. Also he had 10 pass breakups which lets scouts know he is around the ball.
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