The assistant who see practices and recruits says we only got him because he was from Canada, and another staffer called him Derrick Henry. Now guess who had no offers. Let's not play the offer game or I am so emotional I just say crazy things game.

+1 except that will do nothing to further an anti-Solich agenda.

There's no anti-Solich agenda.

There is an agenda against an under-achieving coaching staff.

The head of that staff happens to be Coach Solich.

pm me; I'll explain it to you.



What's truly embarrassing is the the agenda of the SFB bunch who refuse to judge Solich and staff on actual results. The SFB hold Solich and staff infallible, refusing to evince any respect for academic standards of legitimate, balanced inquiry.



If you can prove that Solich is not our head coach, I'll change who I attempt to hold responsible for the coaching.

Correct, being in Canada did hurt his recruiting opportunities somewhat, but it didn't completely stop all offers. He attended multiple camps in the US, and had ample opportunity to be seen. If his game had been as complete as some would have you believe, and he had arrived NFL ready, he would have had some more offers. He had a lot of potential, but that didn't mean that he didn't have room to improve, nor that he didn't need to improve to be ready for FBS.

The arguments have become so ridiculous at this point that I can't take them seriously, and I don't think that the people making them actually believe them either. I mean, seriously, no real fan could oppose the idea that a player needs to play well and earn his playing time. Irons and Brown played well enough in practice, and well enough late in games to get some snaps with the first team, but didn't do well enough with those opportunities to get moved higher on the depth chart. Not one person has disputed, much less refuted that statement. Instead they just argue that based on eye appeal, or something, they shouldn't have to perform on the field, and they should just be given the starting position.

To be honest, I'm coming to the conclusion that the whole reason that this discussion continues is to try to create disharmony with the team, to try to re-create the problems of 2013 in the hopes that this team fails. I think that some find the rumor alarming that Irons has been more mature this year, and has been working hard, as further evidenced by his super-iron Bobcat award. I, for one, hope that the rumors are true, and that his maturity is such that he will continue to work hard, and that he will become the player I believe he can be, and that he can get the starting position, not by getting it gifted to him, but by earning it.

I also don't know why some here continue to leave Brown out of the discussion. Brown has a very similar level of talent to Irons, and a very similar potential. Like Irons, he has things to work on to round out his game, but he's not your typical third string running back. I think he can be better than the likes of Harden, Davidson, and Garrett, for example. Ohio is very deep with talented running backs. Oddly, given Solich's track record, I expected this to happen a decade ago. It's taken a lot longer than I expected, but Ohio is definitely loaded at running back today.

Keep up with the strawman approach. There is nobody here that says Solich et al are infallible.
Don't understand this except it just wears people down listening to it. It's amazing that you can't come up with something more worthwhile.

I know that facts are irrelevant, and "eye appeal", or "how you feel about things" is what matters, but Sagarin rated the g5 conferences this way in 2015:

AAC 66.85
MWC 61.75
MAC 59.83
CUSA 56.24
Sunbelt 55.04

1400/200 = 7.0.

2015 Irons
198/33=6.0

2015 MAC Rushing Leaders
RUSHING Cl Yards/Att.=Avg. Avg/G
1. HUNT, Kareem-TOLEDO JR 973/178=5.5 108.1
2. GREENE, Travis-BGSU SR 1299/223=5.8 92.8
3. BOUAGNON, Joel-NIU JR 1285/283=4.5 91.8
4. JACKSON, Darius-EMU SR 1078/208=5.2 89.8
5. SWANSON, Terry-TOLEDO SO 923/143=6.5 83.9
6. Young, M.-UMASS FR 973/154=6.3 81.1
7. BOGAN, Jamauri-WMU FR 1051/162=6.5 80.8
8. TAYLOR, Anthone-UB SR 829/186=4.5 75.4
9. HUNDLEY, Conor-AKRON SR 911/202=4.5 70.1
10. JOHNSON, Jordan-UB JR 811/172=4.7 67.6

2015 FBS Rushing Average Per Carry
49. Derrick Henry Alabama Jr. RB 15 2219 395 5.62

AP Career Rushing Yards Per Attempt 4.9.
Career 11675/2381 = 4.9

allen. Where do you get the idea that given the blessed opportunity to do the heavy lifting your average goes up?

This quote, along with the fact that Irons was a Super-Iron Bobcat tells us what we need to know. We can all look forward to seeing Irons, version 2.0 this fall.

+1 Maleek Irons 2.0 is rumored not to have the off-the-field problems of the 1.0 version. He is also rumored to be learning a few things that will make his running even better. Stay tuned, you won't be disappointed, unless your bottom line is you want Frank to leave on a down note rather than a high note.

OUr defense players HATE TO HIT HIM now that should tell you the kid is developing nicely. We have a lot of talent in the back field give it some time. Ball security was mentioned as he fumbled once but he runs hard and downhill. I got to see the scrimmage and he was running with an attitude though he fumbled once. The offense was not very good but several guys stood out who havent even been mentioned much on this board. And yes Irons was found later by several bigger schools namely Oregon State and Arizona he stuck with Ohio.

Scrimmage info.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/04021...

Irons; seven for 25, 3.6 per rush, with one TD.

Brown; six for 38, 6.3 per rush, with two TDs.

Berger with three sacks.

Robbins & Cunningham five tackles each.

London Miller with an Int.

That is a point that I'm surprised is missed as often as it is. Not only is Irons a back with a ton of potential, but Dorian Brown is, too. Unfortunately for Brown, he fumbled quite often in 2014, and that hurt him (and helped AJ), but Brown obviously worked hard on that, as did all the backs, and none of the backs had any fumbles at all in 2015.

I'm really looking forward to seeing all the running backs in 2016.

Irons had a 12 yard touchdown where he broke through tackles against the ones. FS has a wealth of good backs and that is probably why he mentioned both, Brown to me has the best vision. Irons needs to work on his angles a little bit. Sometimes he needs to cut and explode verse bouncing it outside.