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rpbobcat
6/30/2016 6:33 AM
According to today's The Record, the NCAA has now ruled that all bowl eligible FBS teams,with at least a 6-6 record, must be invited to a bowl,before any 5-7 teams can be invited.
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71 BOBCAT
6/30/2016 9:13 AM
WOW this is good news for the MAC.
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OU_Country
6/30/2016 2:09 PM
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
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GoCats105
6/30/2016 2:49 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
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Alan Swank
6/30/2016 4:44 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
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Bcat2
6/30/2016 6:34 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
One moment. The above seems to settle on a single/sole standard for "success."We know Monroe has a single/sole standard for "success." I would contend that "success" should include winning with student athletes, contending with student athletes, graduating student athletes, representing well with student athletes and in this time brand development. My perspective is "success" is bigger than a MACC or a Bowl season. I would argue that Ohio has been more successful than Miami, Buffalo or Akron who have won the MACC. Again success needs to be far bigger than "the" MAC or some bowl.
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Monroe Slavin
6/30/2016 7:06 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
One moment. The above seems to settle on a single/sole standard for "success."We know Monroe has a single/sole standard for "success." I would contend that "success" should include winning with student athletes, contending with student athletes, graduating student athletes, representing well with student athletes and in this time brand development. My perspective is "success" is bigger than a MACC or a Bowl season. I would argue that Ohio has been more successful than Miami, Buffalo or Akron who have won the MACC. Again success needs to be far bigger than "the" MAC or some bowl.
Stop accepting as high achievement items which are minimal standards.

I acknowledge that Solich has done well on those counts..have never denied that. But it's more that not meeting those marks would be a real disappointment than that meeting those marks should be held up for high praise.

For the money being paid the staff and invested in the program and the lightweight schedule we play each year, not so good.
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rpbobcat
7/1/2016 6:33 AM
Getting back to my original post.

One can argue whether 6-6 is somehow an acceptance of "mediocrity" for bowl participation.
But at least it assures that teams that do have a 6-6 record can't be denied a bowl because of conference tie-ins or because a 5-7 team may be more desirable to a bowl committee.
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OU_Country
7/1/2016 9:40 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Getting back to my original post.

One can argue whether 6-6 is somehow an acceptance of "mediocrity" for bowl participation.
But at least it assures that teams that do have a 6-6 record can't be denied a bowl because of conference tie-ins or because a 5-7 team may be more desirable to a bowl committee.

I'm in agreement with your point of view on this. I just don't enjoy the "bowl season", and feel like 7-5 should be the minimum standard. I'm also in agreement that we can all have different opinions of success. Lastly, in my own personal opinion, miracle years of 12-0 or 11-1 aside, the greatest single season achievement any Ohio Bobcat football team can have is to get to, and win the last MAC game of the year in Detroit. No (insert sponsor.com) bowl game win will mean as much to me as a fan or Alumni.
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Alan Swank
7/2/2016 12:41 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
One moment. The above seems to settle on a single/sole standard for "success."We know Monroe has a single/sole standard for "success." I would contend that "success" should include winning with student athletes, contending with student athletes, graduating student athletes, representing well with student athletes and in this time brand development. My perspective is "success" is bigger than a MACC or a Bowl season. I would argue that Ohio has been more successful than Miami, Buffalo or Akron who have won the MACC. Again success needs to be far bigger than "the" MAC or some bowl.
Hardly three teams that I would even want to be compared to. Making a bowl game is no longer a big deal by any standard.
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colobobcat66
7/3/2016 8:56 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
One moment. The above seems to settle on a single/sole standard for "success."We know Monroe has a single/sole standard for "success." I would contend that "success" should include winning with student athletes, contending with student athletes, graduating student athletes, representing well with student athletes and in this time brand development. My perspective is "success" is bigger than a MACC or a Bowl season. I would argue that Ohio has been more successful than Miami, Buffalo or Akron who have won the MACC. Again success needs to be far bigger than "the" MAC or some bowl.
Hardly three teams that I would even want to be compared to. Making a bowl game is no longer a big deal by any standard.
But when you say that the MACC is the only sign of success, then that's who you are being compared to. They are sucessful, we are not, some say.
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Alan Swank
7/3/2016 11:53 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Too bad they won't say "bowl eligible" means 7 wins.
Or eight.
It's a shame that "bowl eligible" for conferences like the MAC has become the standard for success.
One moment. The above seems to settle on a single/sole standard for "success."We know Monroe has a single/sole standard for "success." I would contend that "success" should include winning with student athletes, contending with student athletes, graduating student athletes, representing well with student athletes and in this time brand development. My perspective is "success" is bigger than a MACC or a Bowl season. I would argue that Ohio has been more successful than Miami, Buffalo or Akron who have won the MACC. Again success needs to be far bigger than "the" MAC or some bowl.
Hardly three teams that I would even want to be compared to. Making a bowl game is no longer a big deal by any standard.
But when you say that the MACC is the only sign of success, then that's who you are being compared to. They are sucessful, we are not, some say.
Monroe may have said that but I never did. As you pointed out, there are many measures of success. My only point that when more than half the teams make a bowl, it really isn't a big deal any more.
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Monroe Slavin
7/3/2016 5:16 PM
I've never said MACC is the only standard.

But I hold in minimum high regard anyone who thinks it's other than the far and away first goal.
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Alan Swank
7/3/2016 6:33 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
I've never said MACC is the only standard.

But I hold in minimum high regard anyone who thinks it's other than the far and away first goal.
Fair enough - that's why I used the words "may have said." Agreed on your second sentence.
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