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Posted: 8/8/2016 8:58 AM
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For the sake of comparison, Tennessee charges $25 a day and offers security and a limited number of hookups. http://www.utsports.com/gameday/football /
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For the sake of comparison, Tennessee charges $25 a day and offers security and a limited number of hookups. http://www.utsports.com/gameday/football /
Great info, thanks for sharing that.

I'd be very interested to compare this data across D-1 football.
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Being in northeast OH, whenever we play at Kent or Akron, I attend the games. I would never think about taking my RV to Akron, but Kent is another story. Last time we played there (or was it the time before?) We took the extended family in the RV to the game. They charged us only $25, and we opened the awning and had a great tailgate; there were other RVs there, too. I will probably do it again this year, depending on how many want to attend. Kent did/does it right for RVs. But I do have to admit, they seem to have more parking and fewer fans. But it still does not excuse OHIO from their discouragement of fans wanting to tailgate near the game with RVs.
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The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish. RVs are a problem for any school that doesn't have parking specifically designed for football games. Remember, all these lots are built for students to park in, not for football games.

Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

I believe the parking situation will improve once parking is added to south green.
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The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish.

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Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

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According to their website, thirteen OBC accounts donated more than $10k this year. Fifteen accounts donated between $5,500 and $9,999.

Where are these alleged power donors that are worth all these parking stipulations???

Here's five bucks, donate now to reserve your spot for life at the Ridges by that logic.
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The Situation wrote:expand_more
The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish.

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Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

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According to their website, thirteen OBC accounts donated more than $10k this year. Fifteen accounts donated between $5,500 and $9,999.

Where are these alleged power donors that are worth all these parking stipulations???

Here's five bucks, donate now to reserve your spot for life at the Ridges by that logic.

These people park in Peden Lot, right in front of Gate 1
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The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish.

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Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

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According to their website, thirteen OBC accounts donated more than $10k this year. Fifteen accounts donated between $5,500 and $9,999.

Where are these alleged power donors that are worth all these parking stipulations???

Here's five bucks, donate now to reserve your spot for life at the Ridges by that logic.

These people park in Peden Lot, right in front of Gate 1
How I intended to frame that: we're talking about 5 to 100 cars tops that you need to accomodate.

Meanwhile someone who sells their guitar on ebay and donates the proceeds gets claim to the Convo lot and Tailgreat Park.

Regardless of what any other university does in practice, OHIO is handcuffing their brand with this parking model heirarchy that literally separates the top of the pyramid from the lowest possible contributors (who unnecessarily hold the convo lot hostage) by 200 yards.
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The Situation wrote:expand_more
The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish.

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Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

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According to their website, thirteen OBC accounts donated more than $10k this year. Fifteen accounts donated between $5,500 and $9,999.

Where are these alleged power donors that are worth all these parking stipulations???

Here's five bucks, donate now to reserve your spot for life at the Ridges by that logic.

These people park in Peden Lot, right in front of Gate 1
How I intended to frame that: we're talking about 5 to 100 cars tops that you need to accomodate.

Meanwhile someone who sells their guitar on ebay and donates the proceeds gets claim to the Convo lot and Tailgreat Park.

Regardless of what any other university does in practice, OHIO is handcuffing their brand with this parking model heirarchy that literally separates the top of the pyramid from the lowest possible contributors (who unnecessarily hold the convo lot hostage) by 200 yards.
Every bobcat club member who is also a season ticket holder gets parking. If you give $900 or more this year you get to park in the Peden lot.
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This is crazy. There are other lots if they do not want RV's in the main lots. By central food, facility areas by the garage, HR lot or Life Sciences lots. These and many others are on the outside but yet close enough to the action. The Ridges is crazy.
No pun intended with that last sentence. :)
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
The best parking has to be reserved for those who donate the most. Plain and simple, any other suggestion is foolish.

...

Every school in the country does parking based on giving level.

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According to their website, thirteen OBC accounts donated more than $10k this year. Fifteen accounts donated between $5,500 and $9,999.

Where are these alleged power donors that are worth all these parking stipulations???

Here's five bucks, donate now to reserve your spot for life at the Ridges by that logic.

These people park in Peden Lot, right in front of Gate 1
How I intended to frame that: we're talking about 5 to 100 cars tops that you need to accomodate.

Meanwhile someone who sells their guitar on ebay and donates the proceeds gets claim to the Convo lot and Tailgreat Park.

Regardless of what any other university does in practice, OHIO is handcuffing their brand with this parking model heirarchy that literally separates the top of the pyramid from the lowest possible contributors (who unnecessarily hold the convo lot hostage) by 200 yards.
Every bobcat club member who is also a season ticket holder gets parking. If you give $900 or more this year you get to park in the Peden lot.
I understand they back up the parking commitments from the front door to the Convo lot based on donations tiers.

I understand theyve made commitments for these spaces.

Most of us understand that.
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What Im suggesting Allen is that donating less than $5.5k in a year precludes someone from being a power donor (assuming no other significant previous donations). Id go further to say that donating less than $10k in a year should be that cutoff.

Ohio's nickel and diming support when there is so much more they can to do leverage their brand for free.
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It's such a simple concept that it's mind boggling they wouldn't even suggest they charge that much to park up there. Tailgating is part of the gameday experience of college football and those folks with RVs should be just as welcome to be close to the atmosphere as anyone. There's got to be an alternative to the Ridges.

I'm looking at a Google satellite image of the area surrounding the stadium. Is Ohio still using the outside practice field? If not, why not there?
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For what it's worth as a point of reference, A&M forces RVs to park a mile and a half from the stadium, and charges $105 per game.
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/tickets/gameday-rv-parki...

(And as an anecdotal data point, my wife's uncle(s) stopped doing the weekly RV trek to Cbus for osu games due to the headache of distance and cost.)


As far as we're concerned, I get why they don't want RVs front and center. Parking is at a premium in Athens, and if you put an RV in the Peden or Walter Hall lots, you're taking up multiple spaces that could be used by other fans going to the game. I have no problem with them rewarding donors with these spots.

IMO, the way to improve the game day tailgating scene is to make better use of Punchcard Park. That could easily become Ohio's version of "The Grove"...and with it bridging the gap between the Convo and Peden, that's something that could carry over into basketball too.

(Yes, I am suggesting outdoor tailgating for college basketball games in the winter. How many schools are we recruiting against that can boast that?)
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Why couldn't the lot by the physical plant/food services be made for RVs?

I agree with The Situation that getting an improved tailgating atmosphere, in terms of having full lots in the lots immediately surrounding Peden, would be a great idea. I don't pretend to have the solution, though it does annoy me that half the Convo goes unused until kickoff, while I watch a hundred cars drive by looking for parking two hours beforehand.
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Situation....How would you determine who parks where? First come first serve?

What is the actual number of RVs that would be at a game? 10-20 at most?

How do RVs make the atmosphere better than the people that tailgate out of their car? Is one RV tailgate worth 5-7 car tailgates?

Would you prefer a huge ugly parking lot in the middle of campus?

Based on the campus set up, I would say that OU has a pretty good setup. A good balance of parking/tailgating as well as events put on by the school.
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Every bobcat club member who is also a season ticket holder gets parking. If you give $900 or more this year you get to park in the Peden lot.
The cutoff for Peden is a few hundred bucks less than that, Alan. It's about $700.
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Yes, great question as to how many RV's actually go to OHIO games.


Also, gotta think that analogies to OSU don't obtain. They have crushing demand. We don't.
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Situation....How would you determine who parks where? First come first serve?

What is the actual number of RVs that would be at a game? 10-20 at most?

How do RVs make the atmosphere better than the people that tailgate out of their car? Is one RV tailgate worth 5-7 car tailgates?

Would you prefer a huge ugly parking lot in the middle of campus?

Based on the campus set up, I would say that OU has a pretty good setup. A good balance of parking/tailgating as well as events put on by the school.
First come first serve.

You could even meet these parking trolls in the middle with a mutually beneficial angle like first come first serve 6 to 2 hours before game time at the convo, peden, and tailgreat lots, then permit only.

For the power donors give them spots at Peden. But I don't think that donation requirement should be below $10k. I'd be willing to drop down to $5k. But honestly anything below that reminds me of my time at Best Buy where people would roll up thinking they owned the place because they spent $300 on a closeout TV last year.

They may very well be good people. And I certainly appreciate their business, but let's stop short of letting them own the place.

Who cares how many RVs show up? Ask any good Democrat and they'll tell you the allegation that RV tailgaters are displacing car tailgaters are some trumped up charges.

No I don't want some ugly parking lot to go over that sculpture thing in the grass.

I want the most passively interested fans to have an opportunity to park their car next to the stadium and bust out their grill, IF they come early enough.
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I like the new Situation!


It's somewhat sad how little in the way of support it takes to be a somewhat big-hitter in terms of support for athletics at Ohio.

FWIW...whether good or bad...the numbers posted in this thread make it seem like there are probably hundreds (or thousands??) who give more to OSU athletics in a given year than all the donations OHIO receives in a year.
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I believe almost every school parks fans via a donation system. But in Athens we should be first come first serve because our fans do not want to donate? The system is simple, pony up a little money to park where you want to be. Bring your grill and beer. OFC, the Peden lot is more than $700. I think Alan is closer to the correct amount.
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
FWIW...whether good or bad...the numbers posted in this thread make it seem like there are probably hundreds (or thousands??) who give more to OSU athletics in a given year than all the donations OHIO receives in a year.
I don't know how many donate to that community college in Columbus.

But according to their Buckeye Club website, donating $3,000 or more dollars a year gives you the "opportunity to purchase a football season parking permit." That exact same language is used for all higher levels, even their highest level which requires $25,000+ per year.

As for these comments talking about every school does this or that. Go jump off a bridge. I dont care how many people think the world is flat.

And as I mentioned earlier, I can think of 100 universities who can afford to be sloppy with gameday parking services. Ohio cannot.
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I don't know how old the parking map is on the OBC web site, but it states that OBC members at Captain level or higher can get RV spaces in the Convo. Maybe it's old and not true anymore.

It also shows some first come, first served game day parking closer to Peden than most of the Convo if the scale is accurate. I haven't been on that part of campus in forever so I don't remember if it's that close or not.

My giving to the OBC has varied over the years, but the parking passes is one of the nice perks for my small contribution.

I'm not sure how letting all lots be first, come first served lots makes the game day atmosphere better.
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Find it funny how many alumni want everything for free here.
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For what it's worth as a point of reference, A&M forces RVs to park a mile and a half from the stadium, and charges $105 per game.
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/tickets/gameday-rv-parki...

(And as an anecdotal data point, my wife's uncle(s) stopped doing the weekly RV trek to Cbus for osu games due to the headache of distance and cost.)


As far as we're concerned, I get why they don't want RVs front and center. Parking is at a premium in Athens, and if you put an RV in the Peden or Walter Hall lots, you're taking up multiple spaces that could be used by other fans going to the game. I have no problem with them rewarding donors with these spots.

IMO, the way to improve the game day tailgating scene is to make better use of Punchcard Park. That could easily become Ohio's version of "The Grove"...and with it bridging the gap between the Convo and Peden, that's something that could carry over into basketball too.

(Yes, I am suggesting outdoor tailgating for college basketball games in the winter. How many schools are we recruiting against that can boast that?)

Michigan State's tailgating is, well, sprawled - through neighborhoods surrounding the campus. Nothing picturesque or otherwise engaging.
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Find it funny how many alumni want everything for free here.
Who is asking for free?

I'll stop by saying this university's brand has been absolutely crippled by centuries of incompetence across the board.

This small minded parking game is just the latest example.
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