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Posted: 7/29/2016 9:20 AM
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The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post.
Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems.
I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not?
That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell."
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The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-)
Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October.

Hahahaaaa!
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The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-)
Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October.

Hahahaaaa!
Well if Wrigley does become a safety hazard come playoff time, maybe the Cubs can play at Great American instead. Their fans seem to be able to flood the place when the Cubs are in town. The Reds sure won't be using it in October for probably a decade.

Tough to watch Chapman in blue pinstripes but at least he is on a team with aspirations of winning and not a Maserati parked in the garage of a crumbling house anymore.
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The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-)
Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October.

Hahahaaaa!
Well if Wrigley does become a safety hazard come playoff time, maybe the Cubs can play at Great American instead. Their fans seem to be able to flood the place when the Cubs are in town. The Reds sure won't be using it in October for probably a decade.

Tough to watch Chapman in blue pinstripes but at least he is on a team with aspirations of winning and not a Maserati parked in the garage of a crumbling house anymore.
The Cubs made an investment in Wrigley (this was a thinly veiled suggestion that the University needs to do the same with Peden) - if in use the stadium in Chicago will not collapse. We only worry about the Cubs - But #54 does look sweet in cubbie blue! #gocubsgo
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GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post.
Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems.
I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not?
That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell."
If they were aware of the problem, this piece would not have fallen in the first place. Stuff happens. They're not all knowing.
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This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden.
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The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post.
Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems.
I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not?
That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell."
If they were aware of the problem, this piece would not have fallen in the first place. Stuff happens. They're not all knowing.
So you don't think that, given this recent failure, the powers-that-be know that a structural review should be made to ensure no further danger exists? You are really that low in confidence?
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11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership.

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This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden.
Touche!
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This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden.
You're going to wait a very long time because they have not said and never will say that.
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post. 

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The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post.

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? How many such decorative features are there on Peden? I presume all are the same age with similar structural integrity.
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Last year while at Cambridge University outside of London I was told that the buildings on their campus are maintained to be "Infinitely Sustainable"
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Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
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Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway.
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Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway.
That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel.
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Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway.
That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel.
Hey Rob, did you ever give thought as to how 1000-year-old gargoyles are affixed to cathedrals and such? A few years ago I saw some undergoing restoration and was surprised that hollow metal tubing is the answer.
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Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway.
That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel.
Hey Rob, did you ever give thought as to how 1000-year-old gargoyles are affixed to cathedrals and such? A few years ago I saw some undergoing restoration and was surprised that hollow metal tubing is the answer.
Hello Mike!
Haven't thought much about gargoyles but I do wonder about the longevity of roman pillars and the like. No rebar there, or anything like it. Yet it continues to stand.

Interesting that 1,000 year old gargoyles would have that type of reinforcement. I suppose it's some sort of iron. Not sure when that technology started.
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Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation?
The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway.
That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel.
This is part of the original structure located on the South end of the east stands. Currently all the perimeter of the old stadium is gated off under the stone work.
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Buildings aren't made to last forever.
As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever.
Examples? Has it been properly maintained?

Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert.
Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing.
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Buildings aren't made to last forever.
As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever.
Examples? Has it been properly maintained?

Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert.
Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing.
You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins.
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Fake Monroe wrote:expand_more
11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership.

#nomaccundersolich
#wedontacceptnomediocrity
#worstdivisionofworstleagueinthehistoryofcollegefootballbarnone
#RNCRNCwellnevervoteforbillionarebagofwindracisthomophobesexisttrump
My man!

Reminds us that there are only two places where it's held that Solich has 11 years into the weakass MAC won a MACC: the minds of the SFB and in the land of Fake Monroe ('cause not in the land of real Monroe).

This is stellar work: Since, and including, Miami in 2012 stopping our string of consecutive wins to start the year, we're 23-21.

That includes wins over these powers: 2012 EMU....2013 Austin Peay, EMU, Miami, UMass....2014 Idaho, E Illinoi, Miami....2015 Idaho, SE Lousiana, Miami

That's some football or what.



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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership.

#nomaccundersolich
#wedontacceptnomediocrity
#worstdivisionofworstleagueinthehistoryofcollegefootballbarnone
#RNCRNCwellnevervoteforbillionarebagofwindracisthomophobesexisttrump
My man!

Reminds us that there are only two places where it's held that Solich has 11 years into the weakass MAC won a MACC: the minds of the SFB and in the land of Fake Monroe ('cause not in the land of real Monroe).

This is stellar work: Since, and including, Miami in 2012 stopping our string of consecutive wins to start the year, we're 23-21.

That includes wins over these powers: 2012 EMU....2013 Austin Peay, EMU, Miami, UMass....2014 Idaho, E Illinoi, Miami....2015 Idaho, SE Lousiana, Miami

That's some football or what.



#alltheabovehashtagized
Definitely refusing the Kool-Aid. What is it you are drinking Monroe?
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Buildings aren't made to last forever.
As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever.
Examples? Has it been properly maintained?

Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert.
Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing.
You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins.
And then there is the remarkable Pantheon which, after 2,000 years, is very much intact and open to visitors. Its intact dome is a marvel of engineering.
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Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Buildings aren't made to last forever.
As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever.
Examples? Has it been properly maintained?

Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert.
Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing.
You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins.
And then there is the remarkable Pantheon which, after 2,000 years, is very much intact and open to visitors. Its intact dome is a marvel of engineering.

You got me on that one, I was thinking of the Parthenon, not Pantheon.
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