- I don't think a single thing Ohio did on the field yesterday is any great surprise. injuries, penalties, young players being victimized, experienced players being just decent enough to think it's about to get better. The consistency is simply amazing.

- Nice job by 2/3 of every police department in Southeast Ohio to forget light sticks for traffic management after dark. The police presence deemed appropriate for an Ohio football game is theatre of the absurd.

- Nice job by TV to make a 3:30 start stretch past sunset before summer's even over. Game length has become unsustainable. I may have reached a point where I reconsider my ticket commitment.

I completely agree. Over 4 hours before the overtimes. The media timeouts seemed even more intrusive than usual. Couple that with the non-existent sound system & unreadable programs there will be a lot of people rethinking there season ticket commitment next season.

Average game has 3 TV timeouts per quarter at 3:00 to 3:30 per timeout. So that alone is almost 40 minutes added to each game. Then factor in any injury timeouts, and 1 min for every score that is NOT a TV break, and 3 min after the first two OT's, and you've got an easy hour added onto the actual playing time.

The second half kicked off at 5:45.

Almost everyone on here just loves the broadcasting of our games and then bitches when the games last so long. You can't have it both ways.

I can think of no sport in America with more commercial advertising draw than the NFL. Generally, an NFL game lasts for 3 hours. In my opinion, college football games are dragging on way too long across the board.

One change which would help would be allowing the clock to run after first downs, like in the NFL. I never have understood why gaining the required yardage for a new set of downs should make the game clock stop. A second would be rethinking the reviews of all plays and have coaches challenge plays.

Our game was not great football. But it became a mild classic for its drama--despite the length.

Without conducting a lot of research, my feeling is that NFL games now reach closer to 3:15 or a little more.

Cutting any fraction of halftime will not, I repeat, NOT, make the game 90 minutes shorter.

Obviously, it will not, I repeat NOT, make a game 90 minutes shorter. Every little bit helps, however, and I wouldn't mind shorter half-times when I'm at a college football game.

The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.

The skin is $ as well as "loyalty". Can donate/support OHIO multiple ways - academics, athletics, etc. Success generally leads to more success - Any type of fundraising, Bobcat Club donations, tic sales, general operating funds, personnal time travelling to support, etc. "Deserved" is what pot the $'s go into from "Earned" over the long run.....

Uh - The "entitled" is the receiver of the $'s......as long as they get it. You only mention 4 examples and they of course are not the issue here.......

Edit - Revisit the thread from the beginning - it's more than just "Bobcat's" that are the issue/s here