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Pete Chouteau
9/4/2016 10:18 AM
- I don't think a single thing Ohio did on the field yesterday is any great surprise. injuries, penalties, young players being victimized, experienced players being just decent enough to think it's about to get better. The consistency is simply amazing.

- Nice job by 2/3 of every police department in Southeast Ohio to forget light sticks for traffic management after dark. The police presence deemed appropriate for an Ohio football game is theatre of the absurd.

- Nice job by TV to make a 3:30 start stretch past sunset before summer's even over. Game length has become unsustainable. I may have reached a point where I reconsider my ticket commitment.
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bobcatsquared
9/4/2016 12:08 PM
Over 4 hours - before the overtime periods. Kudos to those fans that stayed for the entire game.
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ohiocatfan1
9/6/2016 11:02 AM
I completely agree. Over 4 hours before the overtimes. The media timeouts seemed even more intrusive than usual. Couple that with the non-existent sound system & unreadable programs there will be a lot of people rethinking there season ticket commitment next season.
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boydhallbobcat
9/6/2016 1:20 PM
Do all stations take that many media timeouts? Seems like the National games don't take as many. I thought maybe the smaller CBS sports (I know CBS isn't small, but their little sports channels aren't on basic cable) have to take more commercial breaks bc they can't get people to pay a lot for a time slot during an Ohio/Tx State type game. It was torturous.
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BillyTheCat
9/6/2016 1:29 PM
boydhallbobcat wrote:expand_more
Do all stations take that many media timeouts? Seems like the National games don't take as many. I thought maybe the smaller CBS sports (I know CBS isn't small, but their little sports channels aren't on basic cable) have to take more commercial breaks bc they can't get people to pay a lot for a time slot during an Ohio/Tx State type game. It was torturous.
Average game has 3 TV timeouts per quarter at 3:00 to 3:30 per timeout. So that alone is almost 40 minutes added to each game. Then factor in any injury timeouts, and 1 min for every score that is NOT a TV break, and 3 min after the first two OT's, and you've got an easy hour added onto the actual playing time.
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OU_Country
9/6/2016 1:44 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Do all stations take that many media timeouts? Seems like the National games don't take as many. I thought maybe the smaller CBS sports (I know CBS isn't small, but their little sports channels aren't on basic cable) have to take more commercial breaks bc they can't get people to pay a lot for a time slot during an Ohio/Tx State type game. It was torturous.
Average game has 3 TV timeouts per quarter at 3:00 to 3:30 per timeout. So that alone is almost 40 minutes added to each game. Then factor in any injury timeouts, and 1 min for every score that is NOT a TV break, and 3 min after the first two OT's, and you've got an easy hour added onto the actual playing time.
Let's not forget the need to review EVERY play that was for a first down, big gain, or score for 2-3 minutes each.

I agree, they've gotten to be entirely too long. My estimate was around 2:10 before the 110 stepped on the field for the halftime performance. Entirely too long, and something I hope that everyone running the D1 version of college football pays attention to. If anyone thinks younger people won't watch baseball because it's too long, slow, and "boring", they should also put college football, when televised, into the same category. I'm very curious to see the amount of time upcoming games take by comparison. I certainly recall watching games that last 2:45 or so, and it wasn't that many years ago.
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Ted Thompson
9/6/2016 3:12 PM
The second half kicked off at 5:45.
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ohiocatfan1
9/6/2016 3:28 PM
At least during the TV timeouts while watching at home you can go the bathroom, fridge, talk to your buddies, channel surf, etc. However while at the game it is torture. No wonder half the place empties before the 3rd quarter (and this was on opening day with beautiful weather). I don't claim to have the answers but something needs to change.
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colobobcat66
9/6/2016 3:34 PM
Almost everyone on here just loves the broadcasting of our games and then bitches when the games last so long. You can't have it both ways.
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ohiocatfan1
9/6/2016 3:37 PM
Very true. But it can't be overlooked as a possible cause for a mass exodus from the stadium after the 3 hour mark.
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BobcatPride
9/6/2016 3:43 PM
I can think of no sport in America with more commercial advertising draw than the NFL. Generally, an NFL game lasts for 3 hours. In my opinion, college football games are dragging on way too long across the board.

One change which would help would be allowing the clock to run after first downs, like in the NFL. I never have understood why gaining the required yardage for a new set of downs should make the game clock stop. A second would be rethinking the reviews of all plays and have coaches challenge plays.
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ohiocatfan1
9/6/2016 4:20 PM
The NFL has it down to a science. I'm sure they have spent millions on research on how to keep TV viewers and live bodies in the stadiums. They obviously have come to the conclusion that 3 hours is the limit on holding a fans attention because aside from an overtime game they almost never deviate from the 3 hour game. If a game starts getting behind are they in the referees earpiece telling them to pick up the pace?
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Monroe Slavin
9/6/2016 4:29 PM
Our game was not great football. But it became a mild classic for its drama--despite the length.
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Ohio69
9/6/2016 4:37 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Our game was not great football. But it became a mild classic for its drama--despite the length.

Totally agree. There was a lot going on that second half and overtime. It was exciting. Too bad all the students missed it (or decided to watch it at home). Unfortunately, I had to leave early due to "family stuff" so I missed a lot of it as well.
Last Edited: 9/6/2016 4:38:06 PM by Ohio69
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OU_Country
9/6/2016 5:13 PM
ohiocatfan1 wrote:expand_more
The NFL has it down to a science. I'm sure they have spent millions on research on how to keep TV viewers and live bodies in the stadiums. They obviously have come to the conclusion that 3 hours is the limit on holding a fans attention because aside from an overtime game they almost never deviate from the 3 hour game. If a game starts getting behind are they in the referees earpiece telling them to pick up the pace?

Without conducting a lot of research, my feeling is that NFL games now reach closer to 3:15 or a little more.
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bobcatsquared
9/6/2016 6:15 PM
BobcatPride wrote:expand_more
I can think of no sport in America with more commercial advertising draw than the NFL. Generally, an NFL game lasts for 3 hours. In my opinion, college football games are dragging on way too long across the board.


Not 100% sure, but aren't NFL halftimes shorter than college football's? Marching 110 fans will disagree, but I wouldn't mind a shorter halftime.
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Pete Chouteau
9/6/2016 7:34 PM
Cutting any fraction of halftime will not, I repeat, NOT, make the game 90 minutes shorter.
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BillyTheCat
9/6/2016 8:13 PM
BobcatPride wrote:expand_more
I can think of no sport in America with more commercial advertising draw than the NFL. Generally, an NFL game lasts for 3 hours. In my opinion, college football games are dragging on way too long across the board.

One change which would help would be allowing the clock to run after first downs, like in the NFL. I never have understood why gaining the required yardage for a new set of downs should make the game clock stop. A second would be rethinking the reviews of all plays and have coaches challenge plays.
You realize that the clock only stops for a first down until the ball is back inside the hashes. At best it's a 2-3 second stoppage of the clock. And coaches can challenge in college football.
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bobcatsquared
9/6/2016 9:25 PM
Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
Cutting any fraction of halftime will not, I repeat, NOT, make the game 90 minutes shorter.
Obviously, it will not, I repeat NOT, make a game 90 minutes shorter. Every little bit helps, however, and I wouldn't mind shorter half-times when I'm at a college football game.
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RSBobcat
9/6/2016 9:40 PM
4+ hour games with several of those on weeknights will get me to reconsider any future FBall season tic purchases. I'll just watch those TV games from Cbus. And continue to buy BBall season tics and make the drive down and back home on weekday night games getting back home at reasonable hour. What I save from not buying FBall tics will just add to Bobcat Club - re-enforcing my belief by action that this is a "basketball school". All due to decisions of the Athletics Dept, FBall program, marketing/media, and the NCAA - They are all just making that decision too hard for me not to make.
Last Edited: 9/6/2016 9:41:40 PM by RSBobcat
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bobcat695
9/6/2016 10:19 PM
The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.
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Bcat2
9/6/2016 11:07 PM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.
Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from.
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RSBobcat
9/6/2016 11:17 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.
Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from.
The skin is $ as well as "loyalty". Can donate/support OHIO multiple ways - academics, athletics, etc. Success generally leads to more success - Any type of fundraising, Bobcat Club donations, tic sales, general operating funds, personnal time travelling to support, etc. "Deserved" is what pot the $'s go into from "Earned" over the long run.....
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Bcat2
9/6/2016 11:21 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.
Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from.
The skin is $ as well as "loyalty". Can donate/support OHIO multiple ways - academics, athletics, etc. Success generally leads to more success - Any type of fundraising, Bobcat Club donations, tic sales, general operating funds, personnal time travelling to support, etc. "Deserved" is what pot the $'s go into from "Earned" over the long run.....
Like I said, " Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from."
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RSBobcat
9/6/2016 11:24 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true.

Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him.

I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place.

By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football.
Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from.
The skin is $ as well as "loyalty". Can donate/support OHIO multiple ways - academics, athletics, etc. Success generally leads to more success - Any type of fundraising, Bobcat Club donations, tic sales, general operating funds, personnal time travelling to support, etc. "Deserved" is what pot the $'s go into from "Earned" over the long run.....
Like I said, " Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from."
Uh - The "entitled" is the receiver of the $'s......as long as they get it. You only mention 4 examples and they of course are not the issue here.......

Edit - Revisit the thread from the beginning - it's more than just "Bobcat's" that are the issue/s here
Last Edited: 9/6/2016 11:35:21 PM by RSBobcat
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