It was pretty sad that one poster said we were not even his second choice. We have two really good QB's coming in, number 55 and 61 in the Nation.

bobcat695 wrote:I saw a Bottom 10 team today in Peden Stadium.

Slavin: I think that there's some sarcasm here that most are missing.

At least Monroe's return means more help for us slow readers and our comprehension. Doubt his return has any other benefits.

^More sarcasm for all the slow readers.^

True.

Except he's not playing.

At Ohio or Purdue or Oregon, etc he'd be playing.


By the way, please state all the recruits which this staff has brought in of anywhere near Burrow's potential.


You can keep hating me. ('squared--you add so much helpful content.) Or you can put the Burrows-miss in context with the rest of this coaching staff's achievements...or lack of achievements.

Oh.

How many of those guys are very, very highly rated and sons of longtime coaches at OHIO?





I have no idea what you're going on about.

Columbus, OH.

Simple question Monroe. Do you have children?

Monroe did you grow up in Athens? If not why did you choose Ohio? Ever think someone might want to move away from home and see new things. I'm not from Athens but I can imagine if I grew up most of my life here I would want to get away at some point, especially if it was for such a good opportunity.

I would actually argue that Trae Williams, at this point, is the bigger loss. We had him at least. Then Northwestern came calling. I don't blame him for that but I wonder if he misses running the ball. He would most certainly be competing for a starting job on this year's team in the backfield!

Never will fault a teenager making a choice that they think is best for them when it is obvious they have done their diligence weighing through their options. Even being at a lower end P5 school is more attractive than a good to great G5 team for most prospects. Would you rather play at the Big House, Camp Randall or Beaver stadiums in front of crowds pushing/over 100K, or Dix, EMU parking lot gray, or InfoCIsion.com stadiums that can have fewer than 10K?

And a school like Northwestern-even if you are on some average to bad teams...if you take advantage of what is put in front of you, you walk away with a degree from one of the best universities in the world and all of the post playing opportunities that come with that.

Burrow-He was probably never ours to begin with. It's the same line of thinking when there is an outstanding high school player who goes to St. _________ instead of the local public and their fans claiming he was taken from them. Nevermind that the kid grew up playing CYO ball, went to St. ___________ Parish School etc. Right in your back yard yes, but so far from ever being on your field as a player for your team.

Are the players coming to Western Michigan, Toledo, NIU really, really that much better than the guys coming to Athens? Does it have more to do with player development-strength and conditioning, nutrition, direction instruction? Is the coaching motivation, strategy, fire in the belly that much better at the top tier MAC programs? Currently I would say a resounding yes and it makes a big difference.

At a quick glance of MAC coaches, most but not all I would say have aspirations of putting in some time at their respective school, having some success and then getting picked up by a bigger named program. Been a common occurrence since the conference was formed frankly. But they are going to fly around and do everything they can to look as attractive as possible to future suitors. That's not happening where we are. Frank will likely retire from Ohio and I think that's an obstacle in recruiting some ways.

Lastly I would argue that currently in college and pro football everything runs through the QB position. Sure some exceptions exist but why do so many get drafted in the early rounds of the draft? It seems like almost every MAC programs has had at least one NFL-caliber QB in this century. I know our offensive style prevents a Roethlisberger type player from coming here that but there lays part of the challenge. When your record is say average to maybe a few ticks above average and your offense is a bit of a snoozer, big play, dynamic guys aren't going to be interested.

Of course, when your team is struggling to win against good competition is can become easy to want to question everything your team does from what was for breakfast down to what brand of ketchup is being offered up at the concession stand. Until this coaching staff wins at a higher level it will be dissected six ways from Sunday on here.

I get all that stuff.


But the point is still that the failure to land a guy right in OUr household is too typical of the failure to achieve that we've seen for 11+ seasons.

If we'd had a MACC in there, if we didn't have so many head-shaking losses over the last four years, the non-achievement re Burrow wouldn't be much.

But, given the failure to achieve, we have to consider it.

Big Ben turned downed Ohio State and led Miami to a top 10 AP finish and if they didn't lose the first game, they would have been in a BCS bowl

If only he would have taken his dad with him.....