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bshot44
10/28/2016 1:47 PM
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I'll own what I said. For the record, I watched it live and celebrated after the win. I'm not a part time fan. The win doesn't erase Texas State and EMU.

You aren't going to find anyone happier than me. This was a huge win.
Ditto

I stand by everything I've said on here and last night (as awesome as it was) doesn't erase issues.

I was there... Had a blast. Great win.... Great time

See you in Detroit
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Parkersburgwvcat
10/28/2016 5:21 PM
I am so glad to munch crow in regard to this outstanding win vs. Toledo. I was pacing the floor the whole game and screaming like a madman. I agree that it does not erase the Texas St. or EMU debacles. Let's also not forget that we went scoreless in the second half of last week's squeaker.
Keep proving me wrong 'Cats. Prove that we are trending upwards toward a MACC.
No one will be pulling any harder for us than me.
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The Situation
10/28/2016 6:04 PM
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.
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allen
10/28/2016 9:57 PM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.

Their stock took a heck of a haircut, but I get what you're saying.
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colobobcat66
10/29/2016 12:13 PM
Parkersburgwvcat wrote:expand_more
I am so glad to munch crow in regard to this outstanding win vs. Toledo. I was pacing the floor the whole game and screaming like a madman. I agree that it does not erase the Texas St. or EMU debacles. Let's also not forget that we went scoreless in the second half of last week's squeaker.
Keep proving me wrong 'Cats. Prove that we are trending upwards toward a MACC.
No one will be pulling any harder for us than me.
Texas State was a debacle. EMU not so much in my opinion.
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Monroe Slavin
10/29/2016 1:59 PM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.

Happy to pay the fine--really? About business, there's a lot you don't understand.

Football at the collegiate level is, significantly, a business, by the way.



Sure, the Board of BP directed the firm's execs to come up with a massive financial and public relations disaster because "they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine."

Seriously, dude, where do you get these weird ideas?
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allen
10/29/2016 2:22 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I am so glad to munch crow in regard to this outstanding win vs. Toledo. I was pacing the floor the whole game and screaming like a madman. I agree that it does not erase the Texas St. or EMU debacles. Let's also not forget that we went scoreless in the second half of last week's squeaker.
Keep proving me wrong 'Cats. Prove that we are trending upwards toward a MACC.
No one will be pulling any harder for us than me.
Texas State was a debacle. EMU not so much in my opinion.
+1
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Parkersburgwvcat
10/31/2016 1:43 PM
Let's see. We had a grand total of three first downs in our six first half possessions AT HOME! This was to an EMU team that lost by 13 to a 3-6 Miami OH team. One man's debacle is another man's ?????
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L.C.
10/31/2016 2:21 PM
Parkersburgwvcat wrote:expand_more
Let's see. We had a grand total of three first downs in our six first half possessions AT HOME! This was to an EMU team that lost by 13 to a 3-6 Miami OH team. One man's debacle is another man's ?????

I wasn't happy with that game, either, but while Texas State has shown that they are not good, EMU is certainly no pushover. EMU is the only team so far to stay within two TDs of WMU except for Northwestern, and they beat Wyoming, who just defeated Boise State.
Last Edited: 10/31/2016 2:21:57 PM by L.C.
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colobobcat66
10/31/2016 2:33 PM
Parkersburgwvcat wrote:expand_more
Let's see. We had a grand total of three first downs in our six first half possessions AT HOME! This was to an EMU team that lost by 13 to a 3-6 Miami OH team. One man's debacle is another man's ?????
Texas State is the lowest ranked team in FBS by Sagarin. Eastern is 5-4. How many yards did we get against Miami? We were pretty fortunate to win that game with 10 offensive points put up. We played Miami at a good time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't win at least 3 more games.

When you lose to a team that has no other FBS wins, that's a debacle to me.
Last Edited: 10/31/2016 2:46:46 PM by colobobcat66
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CA Bobcat
10/31/2016 3:28 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Let's see. We had a grand total of three first downs in our six first half possessions AT HOME! This was to an EMU team that lost by 13 to a 3-6 Miami OH team. One man's debacle is another man's ?????
Texas State is the lowest ranked team in FBS by Sagarin. Eastern is 5-4. How many yards did we get against Miami? We were pretty fortunate to win that game with 10 offensive points put up. We played Miami at a good time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't win at least 3 more games.

When you lose to a team that has no other FBS wins, that's a debacle to me.
I agree that Texas State was a debacle with all things being normal however one of our coaches bolted for TX State just the summer prior to playing them. I firmly believe that had a much bigger impact on the game than many are acknowledging. They possibly knew our schemes as well as our own players.
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Parkersburgwvcat
10/31/2016 9:54 PM
In all fairness CA Bobcat, I should lend some credence to your assessment. Knowledge of a team's schemes by an insider is invaluable information.
Damn, CA, we still should have knocked their little Texas peepees in the dirt!!!
When you make the mistake of allowing an inferior team to hang around until overtime, you enter into a crapshoot. We lost ours.
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Monroe Slavin
10/31/2016 11:53 PM
I believe Texas State was quite young. They were certainly small.

And, if you've seen us once or twice in the past few years, then you've seen pretty much all we do. Staleness makes us easy to scout and coach against.

As well as being boring and, I believe, uninspiring to the players.


Inspired by KNOWING one has a coaching edge or by not knowing same?
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colobobcat66
11/1/2016 12:30 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
I believe Texas State was quite young. They were certainly small.

And, if you've seen us once or twice in the past few years, then you've seen pretty much all we do. Staleness makes us easy to scout and coach against.

As well as being boring and, I believe, uninspiring to the players.


Inspired by KNOWING one has a coaching edge or by not knowing same?
Yeah, that's why we had 12 plays over 20 yards in the Toledo game. Real easy to coach against.

You forgot that we are celebrating the Toledo win and you reverted back to your normal negativity.
Last Edited: 11/1/2016 12:35:26 AM by colobobcat66
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Monroe Slavin
11/1/2016 3:36 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I believe Texas State was quite young. They were certainly small.

And, if you've seen us once or twice in the past few years, then you've seen pretty much all we do. Staleness makes us easy to scout and coach against.

As well as being boring and, I believe, uninspiring to the players.


Inspired by KNOWING one has a coaching edge or by not knowing same?
Yeah, that's why we had 12 plays over 20 yards in the Toledo game. Real easy to coach against.

You forgot that we are celebrating the Toledo win and you reverted back to your normal negativity.

Calm down. What we do is going to work some of the time.

The Toledo game has a lot of us thinking that maybe this team is about to roll.

But until that game, we were nothing to brag about...the usual whatheheck losses and/or not impressive wins. So, if you subtracted the one game (Toledo) from the year, it had gotten to the point on this board where many were saying 'I hate to agree with Monroe, but...' because four years of markedly mediocre were finally being acknowledged.

Yes, Toledo was different. We'll see about the rest of the year.



Again, what I try for is reasonable objectivity. And, save for Toledo, my 'theory of the case' for the last four years has been a heckuva lot more correct than that of the SFB Solich worshippers. If I'm right, why are people angry with me. Should be getting angry with the people who bring this on-the-field performance to us.
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Monroe Slavin
11/1/2016 3:37 AM
Also: Injuries.
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The Situation
11/1/2016 2:47 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.

Happy to pay the fine--really? About business, there's a lot you don't understand.

Football at the collegiate level is, significantly, a business, by the way.



Sure, the Board of BP directed the firm's execs to come up with a massive financial and public relations disaster because "they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine."

Seriously, dude, where do you get these weird ideas?
I did not post this statement to begin a discussion on the finer points of the BP Oil Spill Case Study.

My intent was to elicit abstract introspection amongst a minority of posters on the topic of the reckless approach some take to evaluate the Ohio University football program at the expense of the messageboard.

As for my knowledge of bizness, perhaps you would like to offer a quantifiable personal challenge with tangible stakes?

After quitting my engineering job on April Fool's Day I will be returning to engineering in the new year to start my own engineering consulting business.

I'm owning the time I have (now age 26) to put up or shut up. Perhaps in five years we can compare and contrast my state of affairs to the objective criteria you set now in your challenge.

To quote Drake, Monroe:

"I shine different, I rhyme different;
The only thing you got is some years on me;
Man, f#×% you and your time difference,"
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colobobcat66
11/1/2016 3:50 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
I believe Texas State was quite young. They were certainly small.

And, if you've seen us once or twice in the past few years, then you've seen pretty much all we do. Staleness makes us easy to scout and coach against.

As well as being boring and, I believe, uninspiring to the players.


Inspired by KNOWING one has a coaching edge or by not knowing same?
Yeah, that's why we had 12 plays over 20 yards in the Toledo game. Real easy to coach against.

You forgot that we are celebrating the Toledo win and you reverted back to your normal negativity.

Calm down. What we do is going to work some of the time.

The Toledo game has a lot of us thinking that maybe this team is about to roll.

But until that game, we were nothing to brag about...the usual whatheheck losses and/or not impressive wins. So, if you subtracted the one game (Toledo) from the year, it had gotten to the point on this board where many were saying 'I hate to agree with Monroe, but...' because four years of markedly mediocre were finally being acknowledged.

Yes, Toledo was different. We'll see about the rest of the year.



Again, what I try for is reasonable objectivity. And, save for Toledo, my 'theory of the case' for the last four years has been a heckuva lot more correct than that of the SFB Solich worshippers. If I'm right, why are people angry with me. Should be getting angry with the people who bring this on-the-field performance to us.
So we have the Toledo game as a new benchmark. Don't act like it doesn't exist. Savor it, enjoy it and don't keep up the same stuff right now. If the season falls back into your expected hole, then get out of yours and start yapping again. We've heard it all before.
Last Edited: 11/1/2016 3:51:48 PM by colobobcat66
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Monroe Slavin
11/3/2016 10:28 AM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.

Happy to pay the fine--really? About business, there's a lot you don't understand.

Football at the collegiate level is, significantly, a business, by the way.



Sure, the Board of BP directed the firm's execs to come up with a massive financial and public relations disaster because "they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine."

Seriously, dude, where do you get these weird ideas?
I did not post this statement to begin a discussion on the finer points of the BP Oil Spill Case Study.

My intent was to elicit abstract introspection amongst a minority of posters on the topic of the reckless approach some take to evaluate the Ohio University football program at the expense of the messageboard.

As for my knowledge of bizness, perhaps you would like to offer a quantifiable personal challenge with tangible stakes?

After quitting my engineering job on April Fool's Day I will be returning to engineering in the new year to start my own engineering consulting business.

I'm owning the time I have (now age 26) to put up or shut up. Perhaps in five years we can compare and contrast my state of affairs to the objective criteria you set now in your challenge.

To quote Drake, Monroe:

"I shine different, I rhyme different;
The only thing you got is some years on me;
Man, f#×% you and your time difference,"



It's quite an accomplishment to know everything at such a young age. Congratulations.


Please keep posting. Every time you do it's perfect knowledge that none of us had in our treasure chests previously.
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The Situation
11/5/2016 7:12 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
No one cares about the environment more than British Petroleum (BP), which is why they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine. Because at BP, they hedge their bets in such a way, that even when things get really bad, they'll still come out a little bit ahead.

Happy to pay the fine--really? About business, there's a lot you don't understand.

Football at the collegiate level is, significantly, a business, by the way.



Sure, the Board of BP directed the firm's execs to come up with a massive financial and public relations disaster because "they're more than happy to pay a $20bb fine."

Seriously, dude, where do you get these weird ideas?
I did not post this statement to begin a discussion on the finer points of the BP Oil Spill Case Study.

My intent was to elicit abstract introspection amongst a minority of posters on the topic of the reckless approach some take to evaluate the Ohio University football program at the expense of the messageboard.

As for my knowledge of bizness, perhaps you would like to offer a quantifiable personal challenge with tangible stakes?

After quitting my engineering job on April Fool's Day I will be returning to engineering in the new year to start my own engineering consulting business.

I'm owning the time I have (now age 26) to put up or shut up. Perhaps in five years we can compare and contrast my state of affairs to the objective criteria you set now in your challenge.

To quote Drake, Monroe:

"I shine different, I rhyme different;
The only thing you got is some years on me;
Man, f#×% you and your time difference,"



It's quite an accomplishment to know everything at such a young age. Congratulations.


Please keep posting. Every time you do it's perfect knowledge that none of us had in our treasure chests previously.
You alleged a vague deficiency (my lack of business knowledge) in unquantifiable terms. I responded with a request to reframe the deficiency in quantifiable terms which seems fair since the topic is business. Really this is the essence of our eternal struggle on this message board.

I'll list whatever self deprication you want to read, seriously, because I don't know everything, I'm not perfect, and I'm honest.
Last Edited: 11/5/2016 7:25:09 AM by The Situation
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Monroe Slavin
11/5/2016 12:48 PM
"a request to reframe the deficiency in quantifiable terms"

In all seriousness and trying to be helpful, you'll help yourself if you write in more simple and clear language.


If your assessment is "honest" then you must admit that much of the last four years has been mediocre--just the way that I admit that the last two games have been better.
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The Situation
11/7/2016 12:37 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
"a request to reframe the deficiency in quantifiable terms"

In all seriousness and trying to be helpful, you'll help yourself if you write in more simple and clear language.

[/QUOTE]I agree that simple is the best form of communication.

But there is a space between instructing someone how to build a picnic table and making a statement that is liable to anonymous attack from all angles. I believe the the statement you quoted belongs in that space.


[QUOTE=Monroe Slavin]
If your assessment is "honest" then you must admit that much of the last four years has been mediocre--just the way that I admit that the last two games have been better.
I do not associate 0.500 or better records with the word mediocre.

But has much of the last four years been generally unentertaining and personally disappointing? Absolutley.

I haven't purchased season tickets since 2013 and I haven't donated since 2014.

I've demonstrated emotional investment in this program during my time, including skipping a midterm that led to me failing a required class that is offered once a year to see OU play Temple in Philly on a Tuesday night.

I have 1804 tattooed on my right arm. Of course I'd love more right now.

But patience is a virtue that generally outpaces get rich quick schemes.
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OhioCatFan
11/7/2016 1:39 PM
The Situation wrote:expand_more
But patience is a virtue that generally outpaces get rich quick schemes.
Both true and pithy!
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