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bobcatsquared
12/7/2016 12:15 PM
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battered wifes?
Battered what? What would your wive say about this? What would Al say about this?

Sorry for the hijack.
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L.C.
12/7/2016 12:28 PM
OUs LONG Driver wrote:expand_more
It's not about censoring. It's about maintaining some sense of reasonable discourse. I'm 100% for creating a thread that is #nomacccfor12yearsnothingelsematters vs. Everything is sunshine and lollipops. Monroe and BCat2 can have a grand old time in there going back and forth every day. It will be glorious and I might even click on it occasionally for a reminder of what mental illness looks like. The folks who would like to discuss literally anything else can click on a topic of any other subject and read about that without having the discussion ruined with another trip down the rabbit hole.

I agree with what L.C. said, this constant diversion from the topic in every thread is ruining this forum. It's time to do something about it. I'm convinced this nonsense discourages participation from lurkers and has driven away a lot of former users which is a form of censorship in itself.

Exactly. It has nothing to do with censorship. I'm suggesting no limitation on threads, and no limitation of discussion of whatever the topic is for that thread. On the other hand, if there is a thread on, say, Basham setting a new sack record, then the discussion should be on Basham, and not on whether the Bobcats have won a MAC Championship.

Logically you'd hope people had sufficient self control, and self respect to confine their comments to appropriate places, and be content to have whatever people read their comments limited to those interested, but some people are self absorbed enough to think that everyone should read what they have to say, whether they want to or not. It's just a variation of online bullying, nothing more, and has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
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J.B.Hoy
12/7/2016 1:04 PM
I believe that we are experiencing a paradigm shift in the art of conversation (the inability to have a true conversation). Social media has led many to say (type) things that typically would not be said in a face-to-face conversation. Things have regressed to child-like obstinacy and undue ridicule of anyone who might share another opinion. There are no visual clues informing one that maybe they should stop saying the same exact rant over and over and over.

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. But I feel like I am dealing with my drunk, obnoxious pal at The Pub after 6 aquariums. For what it’s worth, it only took one serious stare-down with a monster bouncer for him to change his tone.

I have always loved coming here to read about my Bobcats – where it used to feel like a group of friends chatting about our beloved Cats (and other Athens minutiae). I miss that.
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Monroe Slavin
12/7/2016 2:51 PM
No. It's two things.

1) Not being open to new information or opinions...--or not being willing to disregard same if not interested. If you don't like it--this being the United States of America, as far as I know--the remedy is always either argue back or ignore it. Censorship is never the answer.

2) This is clearly directed at certain opinions, however expressed and how frequently expressed. Because we get thread drift in every thread. And we get redundancy frequently. But certain ideas, thoughts, conclusions, opinions won't be tolerated by some of you.


Funny thing, over the course of this season, my assessment has been picked up by more and more of those who post here.


And, if you think that I'm redundant (which I am), compare such as OCF, LC, cc-cat, mid70s, bcat2, sbh, dfc. It ain't only me--it's more that you don't like the opinions and truth that I bring.


In the land of free speech, the standard is not the most sensitive person's sensitivity.
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OhioCatFan
12/7/2016 2:51 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
battered wifes?
Battered what? What would your wive say about this? What would Al say about this?

Sorry for the hijack.
She would say sometimes I don't type too well. I'll make the correction. Thanks for the proofreading service. ;-)
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bobcatsquared
12/7/2016 3:58 PM
^Free of charge.^
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bobcatsquared
12/7/2016 3:59 PM
J.B.Hoy wrote:expand_more
I believe that we are experiencing a paradigm shift in the art of conversation (the inability to have a true conversation). Social media has led many to say (type) things that typically would not be said in a face-to-face conversation. Things have regressed to child-like obstinacy and undue ridicule of anyone who might share another opinion. There are no visual clues informing one that maybe they should stop saying the same exact rant over and over and over.

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. But I feel like I am dealing with my drunk, obnoxious pal at The Pub after 6 aquariums. For what it’s worth, it only took one serious stare-down with a monster bouncer for him to change his tone.
Reminds me of our recent presidential campaigns.
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allen
12/7/2016 4:06 PM
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To the administrators, please do not ban Monroe. His comments add spice to the board. He gets barraged with insults, so he should be given a longer leach. I bet even the people that disagree with him believe that he adds spice to the board as well and they look forward to combatting him. There are some very sensitive people on the board, I have tried to make peace after being warned, but the same posters still come for me. My views have changed on FS, but Albin needs help or needs to go. So while I am not all in with Monroe's view, there is some truth to what he says. God bless you all.
A longer what? a leach? Whatever it is, I'm all for giving it to Monroe!
Leash was a bad word, can we have more tolerance?
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oldkatz
12/7/2016 4:09 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
No. It's two things.

1) Not being open to new information or opinions...--or not being willing to disregard same if not interested. If you don't like it--this being the United States of America, as far as I know--the remedy is always either argue back or ignore it. Censorship is never the answer.

2) This is clearly directed at certain opinions, however expressed and how frequently expressed. Because we get thread drift in every thread. And we get redundancy frequently. But certain ideas, thoughts, conclusions, opinions won't be tolerated by some of you.


Funny thing, over the course of this season, my assessment has been picked up by more and more of those who post here.


And, if you think that I'm redundant (which I am), compare such as OCF, LC, cc-cat, mid70s, bcat2, sbh, dfc. It ain't only me--it's more that you don't like the opinions and truth that I bring.


In the land of free speech, the standard is not the most sensitive person's sensitivity.

Mo, as one of the few who supported and advocated for you during your last banishment, I have to say that it is you, not OCF/LC,etc, who constantly roils into the same redundant rant. Please, for all things holy and worldly, tune it the f#@k down! And I say this as a pal.
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allen
12/7/2016 4:11 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
It's not about censoring. It's about maintaining some sense of reasonable discourse. I'm 100% for creating a thread that is #nomacccfor12yearsnothingelsematters vs. Everything is sunshine and lollipops. Monroe and BCat2 can have a grand old time in there going back and forth every day. It will be glorious and I might even click on it occasionally for a reminder of what mental illness looks like.


ROTFL! ;-)

I agree with what L.C. said, this constant diversion from the topic in every thread is ruining this forum. It's time to do something about it. I'm convinced this nonsense discourages participation from lurkers and has driven away a lot of former users which is a form of censorship in itself
I can confirm that I've had others tell me exactly that -- they no longer participate or have never ventured beyond lurking because of Monroe's constant drivel. These are not necessarily all people who Monroe would call the ToleratingMediocrityBunch, but they are turned off by the constant carping and thread hijacking they witness. They just don't want to get embroiled in it. Perhaps, if we are checking sanity, that makes them more sane than those of us who are still here. You know what they say about battered wives? After awhile they start to enjoy it and think that it's normal. Are us BAers suffering from battered wife syndrome? We're starting to enjoy the abuse? Of course, the other thing that happens with battered wife syndrome is that the wife finally comes to the realization that she is being abused and then all hell breaks loose. It's actually a defense in spousal murder cases.

People have to be grown ups, Monroe is posting his opinions. If people can't handle that than maybe they should avoid message boards. Check out Ohio State's board when they lose, they are not coronating Urban Meyer.
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Robert Fox
12/7/2016 5:04 PM
allen wrote:expand_more
People have to be grown ups, Monroe is posting his opinions. If people can't handle that than maybe they should avoid message boards. Check out Ohio State's board when they lose, they are not coronating Urban Meyer.
And we should strive to be more like OSU fans?
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Deciduous Forest Cat
12/7/2016 7:29 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Yeah, let's censor if we don't like the opinions. And let's never hold Solich and staff responsible for winning a MAC.

Then, let's let other posters put up libelous posts based on totally false assumptions and not do anything about it.
Yeah! It's not like you ever accused a player of point shaving!... oh wait, Nevermind.
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Bitchy Incognito
12/7/2016 11:07 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Yeah! It's not like you ever accused a player of point shaving!... oh wait, Nevermind.
Well, it *was* kind of strange when Travis Carrie, in his final interview with Eisenstein, said that it was losing games that really brought the team together.

This was several weeks after he muffed a punt against CMU that cost Ohio the game.
Last Edited: 12/7/2016 11:08:20 PM by Bitchy Incognito
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cc-cat
12/7/2016 11:42 PM
Monroe, I think you are the only person talking censorship. Perhaps others are behind the scenes. Don't know and don't care. I think what folks are asking is that you simply hesitate before being compelled to infiltrate so many threads with the same old no MACC, why do you think Frank is going to win an MACC if he hasn't yet, etc. There are threads where it belongs (e.g., As good as it gets), and those that it is just noise (e.g., graduate transfer).

Be assured that we know you used to be a fan of Frank, you are no longer a fan of Frank. You want Ohio to win an MACC, don't think Frank can get us there. And that you also know that Frank isn't going anywhere.

But hey, all we can do is ask that you be a little more judicious in your posting practice. If your personality and character compels you to think that such endless repetition is what you think will "Make Bobcat Attack Great Again" then have at it. Me, I'm going to either ignore the noise - much like changing seats in a movie theater to get away from the person endlessly commenting on every scene in the movie (I hope you don't do that too), wave "whatever" or I'll simply make a post to redirect the thread back to its topic.

See ya.
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Monroe Slavin
12/8/2016 10:52 AM
Kinda tiresome to have my posts disregarded for their content just because it's me.

Read on if you will, disregard if you choose...doesn't bother me.

There were two highly unusual, inappropriate, and offensive slams directed my way within the past handful of days. Nice to know that in the face of these public slams, the moderators apparently took minimal action and apparently didn't respond with public remarks. I'm betting that if I'd've told someone to F off or labelled them a drunk that the consequences would have been a lot worse.

Don't like what I write, then post back with sense. Yes, I'm redundant. But I bring on-point info, facts, logic--especially when those who respond make arguments which don't logically follow (we're 11-6 in the last 17 games with no bad losses--omitting that the prior three games were all losses by an average of near 30). Instead, there's a cadre here who only respond by insulting--yet I'm the problem?!!

When a poll is put up which gets a lot of responses and near 70% of those responding essentially point to a MACC as the prime goal, then it's weird for me to be redundant about a MACC?
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cc-cat
12/8/2016 10:57 AM
^^^^^ Whatever ^^^^^
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Monroe Slavin
12/8/2016 11:05 AM
SBH--you said ' nasty, late night, drunken' pm's.

At a very quick count, I think that I've pm'd you 7 times since July of 2011. And, several of those were in response to your return pm's. Wow--that is excessive by me.

Nasty--put up from my pm's what you think was nasty and let's see. That's a strong characterization would I resent and wouldn't use unless stuff was pretty extreme. BUt, hey, that's who you are.

Late night--well I often post around midnight L.A. time ...which carries a 3am timestamp because this board is on Midwest time. And, gee, it's so offensive to post late at night or early a.m., isn't it.

Drunken? That, my friend, is absolutely untrue and libelous. What evidence do you have of me drinking at all? If you had any character, you'd apologize for it. So, of course, I don't expect an apology will ensue.

You attack my reputation in such a scurrilous manner--and I'm the problem?



cc--When other people start on about rules which limit the content of threads (apart from matter which violates legal standards), how is it that I'm the one who's starting talk about censorship? That's typical of judging my posts based on me instead of my words.

Lou--I guess. I'll consider. The problem is my regard for the truth. When other than the truth is posted, I tend to want to correct to the truth.
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OhioCatFan
12/9/2016 11:19 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
. . . But I bring on-point info, facts, logic--especially when those who respond make arguments which don't logically follow (we're 11-6 in the last 17 games with no bad losses--omitting that the prior three games were all losses by an average of near 30). . . .
Hmm . . . selective statistics . . . slicing and dicing to make a predetermined point . . . who on this board has ever done that before? And, who has done it over, and over and over in the most redundant fashion possible? Know his name? (I can tell you it's not a "her.") Can you figure this one out? I know it's difficult, but I think you're up to the task.

[Hint: A mirror might help you sleuth this one out.]

For the record, I don't condone the ad hominem attacks and the foul language.
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