Congratulations to our former conference brethren on their American Conference championship today! Was rooting for Navy but the Owls were impressive.

Anyone else think Matt Rhule will get some offers from other programs?

Well well well, another school that wins a conference title before us. At some point the demand has to go up when it comes to these kind of games. Not only do they move onto a bigger and better conference, but also proceed to win said conference in a game against Navy. Food for thought, can't imagine what a game with the likes of Navy, Tom Herman's Houston, or even UCONN in sports would look like? It's about time to start demanding more out of ourselves for the program and not be shooting a shoutout to Temple for doing something we haven't done in 49 years. At some point, we have to either commit to fully winning or just throw our money at other sports and let football fend for itself.

And one more thing, we need to re-structure Frank's bonuses to not just be getting to 7-8 wins. As I have said on other threads, he develops a schedule to get to 8 wins through cupcakes and only one game we should truly lose. Why? Because it's worth more than winning a MAC TITLE! Gee, there's an easy concept as to why we'll never win a MAC. Move the coach's expectations up a little more, who knows maybe we ACTUALLY win one. What a novel concept isn't it? So yes, as a program, get blood in here that actually wants to strive for more than mediocrity. Yes, mediocre sounds harsh to those of you around in the 70's, 80's, and 90's, but we've reached the points where we can't stay on the pot forever.

That was a tough way to end the season for Navy, especially losing your starting QB and offensive captain RB on the same play and both with broken feet! I feel bad they can't finish the season against Army.

Temple showed up and played out of the gate, though. People all point to Tom Herman as the best coach in the AAC, but Matt Rhule is the real deal. I think he would have been a candidate for the Penn St job, but it's probably tough to part with Franklin now. I have to say he's is a class act,as well. After the game over the PA he talked about all the support he has for Navy and that they will be rooting for them against Army. It was the complete opposite of that clown from WMU who didn't once mention anything nice about his opponent - only about themselves and his stupid rowing. I'm glad that the MAC will get some money from this, but I will definitely not be rooting for WMU.

Ditto Optimist, it is about the $$$! And Maryland Bobcat, why would you not root for WMU to win? Is it because you like the fact that most of the world thinks the MAC is a bunch of losers and you want to keep it that way? I personally will be rooting for every MAC team to win and win big. That is the only way this Conference is going to gain the respect of the rest of the football world. Judas Priest, until Navy lost there was serious discuss from the Committee to take them over a 12-0 WMU squad because of a perception that the MAC truly is the home of the Little Sisters of the Poor. The MAC needs to finish strong and win as many bowl games as possible. And by the way, the head of the Selection Committee was the former AD at Ohio, Kirby Hocutt.

get your facts right - Kirby only cut three men's sports and one women's - lacrosse.

To each his own, Kirby was/is a good person who had to carry out a tough decision. Anyone who believes that he acted alone or that cutting sports was his decision alone is gravely mistaken. And those sports would have been cut with or without him as AD.

And OCF, just because he didn't provide a shuttle (I do believe he was the AD then), that's no reason to disparage the man.

On a related note, as I watched the Temple band throughout the game I found myself entertained until it hit me about mid-3rd quarter: they danced at halftime, left the field in the same manner, and even played the same third-down jingle. This is the 110! If you're ever on the east coast and missing the 110 just attend a Temple game.

Yep, turns out the their director is is a Bobcat:
https://www.temple.edu/boyer/about/people/matthewbrunner.asp

Good article (with the exception of calling us Ohio State): http://temple-news.com/lifestyle/high-note-band /

To clarify what I posted earlier, I will root for any MAC team as long as that team is not playing us. Further, I too agree that MAC teams need to win if they can every time they take the field in either an OOC game or a bowl game. Why, because the more teams OOC or in a bowl game we beat, the better the conference looks to the football world. And, with WMU playing Wisconsin in the Cotton Bowl, what better place could there be to make a statement about the quality of MAC play. People still remember Boise's victory over Oklahoma. If WMU beats Wisconsin, it will gain some respect for not only WMU but the MAC. Even better is for all of the MAC schools to win their respective bowl games. I pointed out the fact about Kirby Hocutt because even as a former MAC school AD, he still must have had doubts about the level of play in the MAC when debating over Navy. Thankfully, Temple ended that discussion. But, it does tend to show how the MAC is viewed on the national scene. As for Fleck, I could care less. GO MAC!

He inherited a department rife with debt, in a University that was having it's budget slashed by the State of Ohio and a President who wanted financial accountability after years of none. And you can not even begin to compare Kirby to Tom Boeh, mainly because you are unaware of many of the circumstances that was being dealt with at that time. But hey, to each his own.