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Jim Bob
11/20/2016 9:38 AM
I believe this has been discussed in previous threads. I am in Columbus and see more and more of the OHIO name in scarlet and gray on all sorts of OSU gear. I am not sure if this is officially licensed or not. Was this covered in the previous suit in regards to the OHIO name on college gear?


Every time I see that script OHIO logo on a shirt I think they are wearing Bobcat attire.
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stub
11/20/2016 10:02 AM
Every time I see one I say "Go Bobcats" or "I thought Ohio was green and white".
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Recovering Journalist
11/20/2016 6:57 PM
The people buying that junk are just denying royalties to tOSU rather than violating any kind of trademark on Ohio gear. There's no way to trademark the name of a state in a generic font that happens to use tOSU colors. The issue I have is when tOSU makes royalties on crap like this:

https://www.homage.com/products/script-ohio

https://www.homage.com/products/o-h-i-o-fight-the-team

I know the founder of that store graduated from (the real) Ohio and I don't fault him for trying to make a buck, but it sucks that the behemoth in Columbus is using the name of our university in a variety of places with impunity, and in the above cases making money to do so.
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bobcatsquared
11/20/2016 7:11 PM
stub wrote:expand_more
Every time I see one I say "Go Bobcats" or "I thought Ohio was green and white".

Way to go Stub. I do the same.

Additionally, whenever I hear "O-H" . . . "I-O", I respond with "BOBCATS". I've even taught some of my students (who want extra credit) to do the same at school pep rallies.
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rpbobcat
11/20/2016 7:40 PM
Speaking of OHIO gear,my wife and I were in Columbus Airport today,after spending a very enjoyable weekend in Athens.

Noticed a couple of the stores that sell OSU stuff,also had some O.U. items.

Progress.
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west side cat
11/20/2016 8:47 PM
Leaving Bengal game today some douche kept saying "OH.....IO". Was actually getting very little response, so I talked with him for a few minutes about the difference between the real Ohio and OSU.....he was dumbfounded that I was from the state of Ohio but didn't like OSU and couldn't comprehend that I graduated from Ohio but didn't support OSU. Crazy the sheep. He wasn't a grad.
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RPO R6V
11/20/2016 8:49 PM
Yeah, two things going on here. One is the red and grey stuff with "Ohio" on it, put out by companies trying to make a dollar without licensing any OSU trademarks. The other is stuff like the Homage shirts that are licensed by OSU. The problem there is I believe the lenient deal we agreed to with OSU let them continue using "Ohio" in certain contexts, e.g. cheers (OH - IO) and "script Ohio," both of which you see on the shirts in the links previously posted. Hell, they even trademarked the image of people spelling OHIO with their arms above their heads. I blame Glidden for signing off on an agreement which gives Columbus A&M way too much latitude.
Last Edited: 11/20/2016 8:50:25 PM by RPO R6V
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RPO R6V
11/20/2016 9:37 PM
P.S. TOSU has decided not only does the agreement's verbiage about them being able to use Ohio for "cheers" and for "Script Ohio" give them the right to license tee shirts to that effect, they also reckon they can apply the same logic to athletic uniforms:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=9583511042181...
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TWT
11/20/2016 10:22 PM
The next Ohio president needs to take a tough stance on this.
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OUcats82
11/21/2016 9:53 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
The people buying that junk are just denying royalties to tOSU rather than violating any kind of trademark on Ohio gear. There's no way to trademark the name of a state in a generic font that happens to use tOSU colors. The issue I have is when tOSU makes royalties on crap like this:

https://www.homage.com/products/script-ohio

https://www.homage.com/products/o-h-i-o-fight-the-team

I know the founder of that store graduated from (the real) Ohio and I don't fault him for trying to make a buck, but it sucks that the behemoth in Columbus is using the name of our university in a variety of places with impunity, and in the above cases making money to do so.
Those two are annoying, but this one takes the cake for me:

https://www.homage.com/products/womens-yea-ohio-boxy-tee

I too have noticed a lot of progress in seeing Ohio merchandise in a lot more places. Our logo is recognizable too, I think. My dad was wearing an Ohio fleece jacket on a recent trip we took to Asheville, North Carolina and he got a lot of "Go Bobcats!" or "OU!." A Toledo fan even stopped us to talk about the upcoming game (this was before our historic win).

One of life's greatest curiosities to me will always be why a school (or at least a portion of it) is so desires to refer to themselves by a name that is really not their name. I've never seen or heard of Michigan State wanting to refer to themselves simply as "Michigan" or Florida State referring to themselves as "Florida."

It, in my opinion, comes down to this: they do not fully respect or recognize us as a peer/equal. We're a small, irrelevant MAC school that does not have a national brand like they do so they can do whatever they want. If Ohio was in the Big Ten, Big 12 or other Power 5 conference I would bet the farm that we would not have this situation. Since we will never sniff membership in one of those conferences the struggle will continue.

Those I know who went to OSU know full and well who Ohio is and understand the difference. It is mainly the hordes of fans who maybe have never been on campus and are frankly meathead d-bags who can't/won't understand the difference. Every large college/pro team has them. Crazy thing is I would guess there are more Ohio grads/fans living in Metro Columbus than any other large population center.
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Monroe Slavin
11/21/2016 10:28 AM
I just had a great idea.

Why don't we win a MAC Championship and have a really good team!

Maybe that will bring OHIO alumni and friends to awareness of OHIO FOOTBALL.


Or, we can renew the current staff. Did you know that they've been together longer than time itself?!





#andsomanylosseseveryyearonaweakMACsched
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Deciduous Forest Cat
11/21/2016 11:15 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
I just had a great idea.

Why don't we win a MAC Championship and have a really good team!

Maybe that will bring OHIO alumni and friends to awareness of OHIO FOOTBALL.


Or, we can renew the current staff. Did you know that they've been together longer than time itself?!

#andsomanylosseseveryyearonaweakMACsched
Monroe, since you've hijacked yet another thread with your repetitive drivel, let me say that I want a MAC title too. Big time. But do you know that we could win the next three MAC titles and it wouldn't excite our alumni base as much one big signature win? We win the next three and it gains less notoriety than beating Penn State in 2012. Getting the casual fan on board means giving them something more tangible that the national media cares about. That said, we are already getting a lot of people to our crappy stadium. The challenge is, can we get them to pay more, make noise and stay longer?
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OhioCatFan
11/21/2016 11:46 AM
RPO R6V wrote:expand_more
P.S. TOSU has decided not only does the agreement's verbiage about them being able to use Ohio for "cheers" and for "Script Ohio" give them the right to license tee shirts to that effect, they also reckon they can apply the same logic to athletic uniforms:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=9583511042181...
This, as I recall, is a direct violation of the agreement, or a codicil thereto. For instance, I recall that the cheerleader uniforms that said "Ohio" on them could be used until they wore out and then would have to be replaced with ones that said, "Ohio State." That is what happened. The same, I'm fairly certain, applied to athlete's uniforms. OHIO should register a complaint!
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Jim Bob
11/21/2016 12:17 PM
I wonder if they are getting away with the gymnastic uniform because it is "script OHIO". Or if the powers at OU just don't care.
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OhioCatFan
11/21/2016 12:25 PM
Jim Bob wrote:expand_more
I wonder if they are getting away with the gymnastic uniform because it is "script OHIO". Or if the powers at OU just don't care.
It's very clear from the letter of the agreement that the "Script Ohio" exception referred to the band's use of the formation. It seems it is clearly time for our lawyers and theirs to have another face-to-face meeting.
Last Edited: 11/21/2016 12:26:21 PM by OhioCatFan
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GoCats105
11/21/2016 1:15 PM
Saw something great on Twitter on Saturday...

Apparently during the end of the Michigan-Indiana game, the Michigan students started chanting "We want Ohio" and some ESPN schlub tweeted that out.

I can't remember who it was, but a Bobcat fan tweeted back to the original poster "To lose to Ohio in the NCAA Tournament again?"
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OhioCatFan
11/21/2016 1:34 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Saw something great on Twitter on Saturday...

Apparently during the end of the Michigan-Indiana game, the Michigan students started chanting "We want Ohio" and some ESPN schlub tweeted that out.

I can't remember who it was, but a Bobcat fan tweeted back to the original poster "To lose to Ohio in the NCAA Tournament again?"
Ghost of Brady Hoke. You'd think they'd know better.
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Recovering Journalist
11/21/2016 2:09 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
It, in my opinion, comes down to this: they do not fully respect or recognize us as a peer/equal. We're a small, irrelevant MAC school that does not have a national brand like they do so they can do whatever they want. If Ohio was in the Big Ten, Big 12 or other Power 5 conference I would bet the farm that we would not have this situation. Since we will never sniff membership in one of those conferences the struggle will continue.
That really is it in a nutshell. It's about presumed "ownership" of the state, and it's backed up by tOSU and its casual fans. This is the only state where this happens, but it's also an odd state with so many FBS programs and only one in the Power 5.

Then again, it is not surprising that a university largely founded to smother other schools is smothering other schools. The very founding of tOSU posed an existential threat to both Ohio and Miami. First through Rutherford Hayes' dismissive attitude toward Ohio and Miami. And later every other state school in Ohio was hamstrung by the Eagleson Bill, which mandated that only tOSU could grant post-graduate degrees and conduct research.

While the Eagleson Bill is obviously no more, it put every other state school decades behind in many ways, including athletics.
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Monroe Slavin
11/21/2016 2:51 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I just had a great idea.

Why don't we win a MAC Championship and have a really good team!

Maybe that will bring OHIO alumni and friends to awareness of OHIO FOOTBALL.


Or, we can renew the current staff. Did you know that they've been together longer than time itself?!

#andsomanylosseseveryyearonaweakMACsched
Monroe, since you've hijacked yet another thread with your repetitive drivel, let me say that I want a MAC title too. Big time. But do you know that we could win the next three MAC titles and it wouldn't excite our alumni base as much one big signature win? We win the next three and it gains less notoriety than beating Penn State in 2012. Getting the casual fan on board means giving them something more tangible that the national media cares about. That said, we are already getting a lot of people to our crappy stadium. The challenge is, can we get them to pay more, make noise and stay longer?
1) No.

2) I believe the topic here was lack of OHIO alumni/friends recognition of OHIO as having a football team...heck, rooting for columbus and paying no attention to OHIO FOOTBALL.

I'm of the opinion that our marketing has gotten the max out of faithful alumni/friends and those who live near Athens. But, perhaps because marketing and pricing brings them in, they are as moribund as can be. No live fan enthusiasm.

Winning a MAC will pay off most in the year after we do it, most likely--unless we have a winning season as WMU this year and NIU a few years back--national attention via no losses. (Or NIU's first game was a close loss to a ranked team.)

3) Build it and they will OHIO.


I don't think one big win will do that. Get a MACC.


And do it now.
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bobcat695
11/21/2016 2:59 PM
I love Homage clothing and appreciate an alum promoting Ohio by making high quality Bobcat apparel. I was in the Easton store over the weekend and bought two shirts, neither of which was an Ohio product.

I know some stuff is close, but I didn't see any glaring trademark violations because you cannot trademark the generic name Ohio. This guy has started a legitimate business with some of the coolest Ohio Bobcat apparel available. Bobcat fans aren't buying enough of it to pay the rent on his corner lot at Easton. I don't care what else he is selling to help his business grow.
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GoCats105
11/21/2016 3:24 PM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
I love Homage clothing and appreciate an alum promoting Ohio by making high quality Bobcat apparel. I was in the Easton store over the weekend and bought two shirts, neither of which was an Ohio product.

I know some stuff is close, but I didn't see any glaring trademark violations because you cannot trademark the generic name Ohio. This guy has started a legitimate business with some of the coolest Ohio Bobcat apparel available. Bobcat fans aren't buying enough of it to pay the rent on his corner lot at Easton. I don't care what else he is selling to help his business grow.
It's my go-to for all of my Bobcat gear. The t-shirts are a little pricey, but I make them last for years. And the hoodies are about the most comfortable hoodie I've ever worn.
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Recovering Journalist
11/21/2016 3:31 PM
bobcat695 wrote:expand_more
I love Homage clothing and appreciate an alum promoting Ohio by making high quality Bobcat apparel. I was in the Easton store over the weekend and bought two shirts, neither of which was an Ohio product.

I know some stuff is close, but I didn't see any glaring trademark violations because you cannot trademark the generic name Ohio. This guy has started a legitimate business with some of the coolest Ohio Bobcat apparel available. Bobcat fans aren't buying enough of it to pay the rent on his corner lot at Easton. I don't care what else he is selling to help his business grow.
As I first noted, I'm not attacking Homage, and I agree that they're just making stuff that sells. But the stuff I pointed out almost certainly IS licensed. It's just licensed by a university not named Ohio. I think that's wrong.
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OhioStunter
11/21/2016 6:22 PM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
I love Homage clothing and appreciate an alum promoting Ohio by making high quality Bobcat apparel. I was in the Easton store over the weekend and bought two shirts, neither of which was an Ohio product.

I know some stuff is close, but I didn't see any glaring trademark violations because you cannot trademark the generic name Ohio. This guy has started a legitimate business with some of the coolest Ohio Bobcat apparel available. Bobcat fans aren't buying enough of it to pay the rent on his corner lot at Easton. I don't care what else he is selling to help his business grow.
As I first noted, I'm not attacking Homage, and I agree that they're just making stuff that sells. But the stuff I pointed out almost certainly IS licensed. It's just licensed by a university not named Ohio. I think that's wrong.
I think it is wronger to sell a t-shirt for $32.
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bobcat695
11/21/2016 10:53 PM
I bought a shirt that had a picture of Larry Bird with wings that says Massachussets State Bird. Add in the fact that it's softer than any of my cashmere sweaters, and I think it's underpriced.
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RPO R6V
11/27/2016 1:09 AM
My uncle was sporting this one at the family Thanksgiving gathering. It was hard to keep my mouth shut.

http://nationalchampionshipshirts.com/oh1o-shirts /
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