It is that time of year when most everyone following Ohio sports is upset. But who should they be upset with?

On the football side of things we have just finished the season with a MAC East title, lost MACC, invite to a bowl game and a loss in the game. That triggers the cry of Fire Frank - in one form or another - "time to go" - "I like Frank, but..." soften it as one wishes, it translates to get rid of Frank.

But even the most ardent supporters of the "Time to go" movement acknowledge that Frank is not going anywhere - unless he wants to retire. Which does not appear to be the case. So most lower their anger to Albin. Fire Albin!! But with Frank approaching lame duck status, most also acknowledge that Albin is not going anywhere.

Which means the only way Frank would go is if Schaus were to fire him. But Schaus has shown no sign of that (look how long it took him to move on in baseball). Schaus simply does not have the intention, guts or balls to pull the trigger. Pick your reason, it is not going to happen.

Be upset at the body of work over the past 4, 6 or 11 years - Reality is Schaus is why Frank is here...and remains here.

On the basketball side of things the Bobcats have already played themselves out of an at-large opportunity. Some posters are starting to say that Saul must start winning NOW. Schaus hired Christian and that turned out to be short-term. All agree Saul is a nice guy, but many cite he has not shown he can recruit "THE" guy, and has not won anything yet.

So who oversees these two programs and coaches? Who can not pull the trigger on one and may have missed twice on the basketball side? Everyone gets all antsy when Schaus' name comes up for another job. Should we? Maybe the next time someone else comes calling we give them our blessing.

Maybe when we get a new President, he/she will have a more aggressive stance on athletics. Maybe if we ever want to move up the ladder in athletics, we need to move on from what we have now.

Folks can be upset at the coaches, but that is like being upset at the Sales director, maybe it is the CEO.

Or maybe we are not the company some think we are or should be. Being upset at Frank, Albin, Saul is easy.

So you're saying Jim Schaus is the problem?

I'm done.

Just want to make sure I understand - is this thread suggesting that Schaus is a problem? If so, is there something in the water around this board?

71 - what you said is exactly what I meant. The new president may very well want to reverse the recent slide in our academic reputation and available revenue for sports may be less in the not too distant future. This was in response to one posters hope for a president who emphasized academics.

I want a president who emphasizes academics (duh, it's a freaking university) and who understands the incredible value of a successful athletics program. That president will go get the money for both.

I think Schaus does a good job overall but from an objective point of view:

2015-16 Reese (Men’s) Standings
School; Sports; Points; Avg.
Akron; 7; 75.0 points; 10.714
Western Michigan; 5; 42.0 points; 8.4
Kent State; 8; 67.0 points; 8.375
Eastern Michigan; 9; 73.5 points; 8.167
Central Michigan; 7; 51.5 points; 7.357
Ball State; 6; 40.5 points; 6.75
Ohio; 6; 38.5 points; 6.4167
Northern Illinois; 7; 43.75 points; 6.25
Buffalo; 10; 62.0 points; 6.2
Miami; 7; 42.0 points; 6.0
Toledo; 6; 32.0 points; 5.33
Bowling Green; 6; 24.5 points; 4.083

2015-16 Final Jacoby (Women’s) Standings
School; Sports; Total Points; Avg.
Kent State; 10; 95.25 points; 9.525
Eastern Michigan; 11; 92.5 points; 8.409
Western Michigan; 10; 80.0 points; 8.0
Miami; 10; 78.5 points; 7.85
Akron; 10; 72.875 points; 7.2875
Ohio; 10; 72.625 points; 7.2625
Northern Illinois; 10; 70.875 points; 7.0875
Central Michigan; 10; 69.0 points; 6.90
Buffalo; 9; 59.5 points; 6.6111
Toledo; 10; 57.75 points; 5.775
Bowling Green; 11; 54.125 points; 4.920
Ball State; 12; 57.5 points; 4.79167

Pretty close to the middle in both sports. I do believe we have to take 0s in a number of sports we do not sponsor, no? Akron and Kent quietly do quite well in the olympic sports. Kind of surprising that Miami is so low but they only offer 6 men's teams that actually compete in the MAC. Their commitment to hockey spreads them pretty thin in other areas.

Not to downplay any of our student athletes nor their teams but how many of you on here are primarily interested in the success of football and men's basketball? I would cheer for OU in tidily winks but I can't honestly say I follow the results/growth/news of any teams other than football and men's basketball with any regularity. But I want the very best in terms of everything for all teams wearing green and white. I do what I can to provide financial support but I don't have a T. Boone Pickens type of checkbook = )

Whoops, sorry Alan. I miss read and miss understood the point. Must be the Alzheimer's kicking in.

I'm not advocating - I'm just presenting a look at the situation. If folks feel Frank has been kept on too long (as many do)- that is o....n Schaus. If folks feel Saul is a good guy, but perhaps not the THE guy - such a conclusion will be a reflection on Schaus.

No question he has improved funding and facilities (as Kirby did). And other sports have thrived. But at the end of the day, football and basketball are king. Success, or lack thereof, will be judged (subjectively as "success" as we all know is ambiguous). And the AD, like the coaches will be judged.

Personally, I think Schaus' handling of Frank is a reflection of the ethos of the university and Ohio athletics - which I never judged - but personally feel are part of what makes Ohio...Ohio...OU....Oh Yea.

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