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Topic: How many of the 42 Bowl Games do you actually watch? (to qualify, let's say that you watched at least half the game)
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OU_Country
12/27/2016 2:11 PM
With some discussion on this board about Bowl games, I'm curious to see how many bowl games our little slice of sports fandom actually watches.


Myself, I have thus far watched only one game that qualifies - the game Ohio played in. I'll probably be involved in watching both NYE games, and the National Title game for at least one half per game. That's about it for me.
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GoCats105
12/27/2016 2:20 PM
I watch almost all of them simply because I have a vested interest due to a league my friends and I run. I usually don't pay a lot of attention to the lower ones, but I'll keep it on the TV for background noise for sure.

But I still share the opinion that 6-6 should not be rewarded as a good season with a bowl and 42 is too many. If I had to put a magic number on it I would probably say 30 bowls. That's 60 teams which means a little less than half of your total teams are getting in.
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OU_Country
12/27/2016 2:35 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I watch almost all of them simply because I have a vested interest due to a league my friends and I run. I usually don't pay a lot of attention to the lower ones, but I'll keep it on the TV for background noise for sure.

But I still share the opinion that 6-6 should not be rewarded as a good season with a bowl and 42 is too many. If I had to put a magic number on it I would probably say 30 bowls. That's 60 teams which means a little less than half of your total teams are getting in.

7-5 should be what Bowl Eligible is in my opinion. The idea that a 5-7 team goes to a bowl game is astonishing to me.

The funny thing is, some of the same people who are okay with 6-6 for bowl eligibility reject the idea of expanding the NCAA Tournament.
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rpbobcat
12/27/2016 2:43 PM
I agree with 7-5 to go to a bowl.

Question is,if you don't have enough 7-5 teams,how do decide which bowls to cancel?

I guess you could start with conference affiliation.

If a particular conference doesn't have enough 7-5 teams,and other conferences are
in the same situation,that conference would have to decide the order or participating schools.Lowest bowl(s) on the totem poll get canceled.

Don't see it ever happening.
To much advance money put out by the bowls and towns where they play.
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OU_Country
12/27/2016 3:02 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
I agree with 7-5 to go to a bowl.

Question is,if you don't have enough 7-5 teams,how do decide which bowls to cancel?

I guess you could start with conference affiliation.

If a particular conference doesn't have enough 7-5 teams,and other conferences are
in the same situation,that conference would have to decide the order or participating schools.Lowest bowl(s) on the totem poll get canceled.

Don't see it ever happening.
To much advance money put out by the bowls and towns where they play.
They'll do what they do now when the 6-6 teams run out: Select from teams with less than 7-5 records.
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rpbobcat
12/27/2016 4:20 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I agree with 7-5 to go to a bowl.

Question is,if you don't have enough 7-5 teams,how do decide which bowls to cancel?

I guess you could start with conference affiliation.

If a particular conference doesn't have enough 7-5 teams,and other conferences are
in the same situation,that conference would have to decide the order or participating schools.Lowest bowl(s) on the totem poll get canceled.

Don't see it ever happening.
To much advance money put out by the bowls and towns where they play.
They'll do what they do now when the 6-6 teams run out: Select from teams with less than 7-5 records.
I'm looking at it as, if you have a rule 7-5 or you aren't eligible for a bowl,what do you do ?
other then break the rule of course.
We are talking the NCAA here.
Last Edited: 12/27/2016 4:22:14 PM by rpbobcat
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bobcat2nc
12/27/2016 4:20 PM
With regards to the question: I have already watched more games than I thought I would. I wish I could explain it. The production is, generally, not very good and the commentary is less than spectacular. However, I am still watching. On the other hand, I do not intend to watch the big games. Call it jealousy, call it sour grapes, call it envy if you want, I just won't be watching.

I am expecting to have a nice quiet, uncrowded New Year's Eve dinner this year in Columbus, Oh unless our usual restaurant decides to capitalize on the opportunity and bring TVs in. (In which case I will not be going there)

Now I have a question about the discussion of teams with 6-6 records. How does North Texas get a bowl game at 5-7? To be fair, unless Zaxby's paid people to wear Mean Green clothes there seemed to be a decent fan base for this game. Do you think Ohio would travel that well for the same 40 mile trip at 5-7?

This is what wasting away in front of televised bowl games does to my brain.
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Mark Lembright '85
12/27/2016 8:26 PM
Are you kidding? Nothing screams fun on a Tuesday night more than the Cactus Bowl!!
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OUcats82
12/27/2016 9:32 PM
bobcat2nc wrote:expand_more
With regards to the question: I have already watched more games than I thought I would. I wish I could explain it. The production is, generally, not very good and the commentary is less than spectacular. However, I am still watching. On the other hand, I do not intend to watch the big games. Call it jealousy, call it sour grapes, call it envy if you want, I just won't be watching.

I am expecting to have a nice quiet, uncrowded New Year's Eve dinner this year in Columbus, Oh unless our usual restaurant decides to capitalize on the opportunity and bring TVs in. (In which case I will not be going there)

Now I have a question about the discussion of teams with 6-6 records. How does North Texas get a bowl game at 5-7? To be fair, unless Zaxby's paid people to wear Mean Green clothes there seemed to be a decent fan base for this game. Do you think Ohio would travel that well for the same 40 mile trip at 5-7?

This is what wasting away in front of televised bowl games does to my brain.
Maybe low end bowl games are like bad pizza? Even when it's bad, it is still good? Life has been too crazy for me to watch many of the bowls (followed the DGB on my phone) but I can never get enough football. The season is fleeting and soon we will not have live games to watch for the better part of 8 months!
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Alan Swank
12/27/2016 10:02 PM
bobcat2nc wrote:expand_more
With regards to the question: I have already watched more games than I thought I would. I wish I could explain it. The production is, generally, not very good and the commentary is less than spectacular. However, I am still watching. On the other hand, I do not intend to watch the big games. Call it jealousy, call it sour grapes, call it envy if you want, I just won't be watching.

I am expecting to have a nice quiet, uncrowded New Year's Eve dinner this year in Columbus, Oh unless our usual restaurant decides to capitalize on the opportunity and bring TVs in. (In which case I will not be going there)

Now I have a question about the discussion of teams with 6-6 records. How does North Texas get a bowl game at 5-7? To be fair, unless Zaxby's rpeople to wear Mean Green clothes there seemed to be a decent fan base for this game. Do you think Ohio would travel that well for the same 40 mile trip at 5-7?

This is what wasting away in front of televised bowl games does to my brain.
Bravo! I'll be interested to hear how the TV thing works out. Restaurants in Columbus probably won't be too crowded Saturday night.
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The Optimist
12/27/2016 10:38 PM
Last year I watched a ton of them because I was winning money on Fanduel. I made more "gambling" on non-P5 games in CFB than I have on NFL or NBA.

This year (they got rid of college sports DFS/Fanduel/Draftkings this yr), it really just depends what I have going on at the time of the game. If I'm with family or friends and not doing anything specific, we'll often flip on whatever sketchy bowl game between no-name teams is on because it is football and we like football. I'm not a "bowl purist." I like football. More football=good thing.

Plus, you never know when MACtion might break out.
Prime example:
2014 Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
WKU-49 CMU-48
Last Edited: 12/27/2016 10:42:08 PM by The Optimist
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Pataskala
12/28/2016 9:46 AM
I watched quite a few last week while I was home recuperating, but don't plan to watch that much of any of the rest. Depends on what else is on. Bogart films > most any bowl. So far, at least, most of the matchups have been pretty even so most of the games have been very competitive and interesting to watch.

As for eligibility, I remember back in the '90s there was a 6-5 team (Missouri?) that caused an uproar when it got a bowl bid and teams with better records didn't simply because of the contract the bowl had with the conference. That helped spur the proliferation of bowl games. Until some bowls go under and aren't replaced we'll see 5-7 teams in the mix every year, so I'd like to see some consideration given to the teams' conference records. Give priority to the teams that finish .500 or better in their conference. This year, NIU (5-3 in the MAC) and Nevada (4-4 in the MWC) would've gotten the bids. All the other 5-7 teams were 3-5 or worse in their conference games.
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Bcat2
12/28/2016 9:48 AM
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:
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OU_Country
12/28/2016 10:09 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:

In the same evening, nearly 2.4 million watched 3 separate shows on Fox News. Clearly people might have been desperate for something to watch in both cases.
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cc-cat
12/28/2016 10:45 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:
10% increase over the last time we played. And I'm sure most of the audience was males 18-45 -- a key demo for advertisers.
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The Optimist
12/28/2016 10:54 AM
#1- "Dollar General Bowl" 2.5 million
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9-3 Sun Belt team plays a 8-5 MAC team. [/QUOTE]
#2- "Frozen" 2.4 million
[QUOTE=IMBD.com]
Anna, a fearless optimist, sets off on an epic journey - teaming up with rugged mountain man Kristoff and his loyal reindeer Sven - to find her sister Elsa, whose icy powers have trapped the kingdom of Arendelle in eternal winter. Encountering Everest-like conditions, mystical trolls and a hilarious snowman named Olaf, Anna and Kristoff battle the elements in a race to save the kingdom. From the outside Anna's sister, Elsa looks poised, regal and reserved, but in reality, she lives in fear as she wrestles with a mighty secret-she was born with the power to create ice and snow. It's a beautiful ability, but also extremely dangerous. Haunted by the moment her magic nearly killed her younger sister Anna, Elsa has isolated herself, spending every waking minute trying to suppress her growing powers. Her mounting emotions trigger the magic, accidentally setting off an eternal winter that she can't stop. She fears she's becoming a monster and that no one, not even her sister, can help her.



...

Give me football or give me death.
Last Edited: 12/28/2016 10:55:32 AM by The Optimist
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Alan Swank
12/28/2016 10:57 AM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:
Yep, 1 in every 130 living breathing Americans.
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Pataskala
12/28/2016 12:03 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:
Yep, 1 in every 130 living breathing Americans.
Ohio-Troy was the 2nd most-watched bowl game of the first week, behind SDSU-Houston (3.7 million). Next were BYU-Wyo (2.38 million), LaTech-Navy (2.34 million) and WKU-Memphis (1.5 million). The MAC games were 1.48 million for Toledo-App St (6th); 1.37 million for EMU-ODU (8th) and 794,000 for CMU-Tulsa (11th). http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings /
Last Edited: 12/28/2016 12:03:59 PM by Pataskala
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bobcat2nc
12/28/2016 1:32 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
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Why are there so many bowl games? Over 2.5 million people watched the Ohio-Troy bowl game the other night:
10% increase over the last time we played. And I'm sure most of the audience was males 18-45 -- a key demo for advertisers.
Dollar General had a viewers' special on frozen turnovers the next day.
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cc-cat
12/28/2016 2:42 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
#2- "Frozen" 2.4 million
Anna, a fearless optimist, sets off on an epic journey - teaming up with rugged mountain man Kristoff and his loyal reindeer Sven - to find her sister Elsa, whose icy powers have trapped the kingdom of Arendelle in eternal winter. Encountering Everest-like conditions, mystical trolls and a hilarious snowman named Olaf, Anna and Kristoff battle the elements in a race to save the kingdom. From the outside Anna's sister, Elsa looks poised, regal and reserved, but in reality, she lives in fear as she wrestles with a mighty secret-she was born with the power to create ice and snow. It's a beautiful ability, but also extremely dangerous. Haunted by the moment her magic nearly killed her younger sister Anna, Elsa has isolated herself, spending every waking minute trying to suppress her growing powers. Her mounting emotions trigger the magic, accidentally setting off an eternal winter that she can't stop. She fears she's becoming a monster and that no one, not even her sister, can help her.
Way to ruin it for everyone else. I was just getting ready to Red Box it.
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mcbin
12/28/2016 3:17 PM
bobcat2nc wrote:expand_more
Dollar General had a viewers' special on frozen turnovers the next day.
+1
Good laugh, thanks
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shabamon
12/28/2016 7:32 PM
I've watched one bowl game. I like college football in September, but every year, I lose steam in November knowing that the MAC has no connection to the bigger picture. There's little chance I'll watch any of the playoff.
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Kinggeorge4
12/28/2016 8:38 PM
I watch more bowl games then March madness games.
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OU_Country
12/29/2016 10:04 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I've watched one bowl game. I like college football in September, but every year, I lose steam in November knowing that the MAC has no connection to the bigger picture. There's little chance I'll watch any of the playoff.

This is a big part of my lack of interest in them as well. I'll watch the playoff this year, but only because the company I'm keeping NYE will be watching it. Last year, I didn't watch much at all.
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LuckySparrow
12/29/2016 10:09 AM
Traditionally, I'll watch at least a half of 10-15 games. I haven't been as interested this bowl season. I think there's been a lack of interesting matchups so far (through 12/28) and the MAC is down.

It seems like there have been more 6-6 teams than ever playing so far. I've really never had interest in watching those teams play, as many others have noted. So far I've watched:

Appalachian State/Toledo
Troy/OHIO
Miami/Mississippi State
Pittsburgh/Northwestern
West Virginia/Miami

Looking at the rest of the schedule, I'm interested in about half of the games. Both playoff games, Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Citrus, Music City, and the Alamo bowls all seem great.
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