Louisville and Papa John's are planning an expansion to team's stadium to 65,000.

Maybe it's time Ohio expands Peden to 35,000 to 40,000. Right, BillytheCat?

Season ticket sales increase by another 50% then we are ready for it.

8,000 season tickets. Was said earlier this year.

Wait, what? You're more apt to win at some places than others? That can't be right. Based on what I've read here, I thought all places were the same, and that even at Rutgers or Purdue an average coach should should win the Big 12 once per 14 years.

So what is your opinion then Monroe? How many wins per year all things considered should Ohio be earning? My opinion its 10 in football and 25 in basketball.

My thinking is that there are usually reasons why some teams typically end up near the bottom of the conference (e.g. Purdue) while others typically end up near the top (e.g. OSU). These reasons rarely change, even over very long periods. Over the last 50 years Ohio has averaged 4.7 wins a season. My guess is that there will eventually be a regression back to the mean, and that while Ohio will stay over that for awhile, within a decade they will be back to averaging about 5 wins a season in football.

No. We'll do this many years in the future.

No this is a wholly inappropriate and silly topic.

No, DFC, you are the true savant here. Every time you post is glorious indeed.


No, no, no.

I used 5 as the mean to adjust from 11 games to 12, and I guess I should have used 5.1 to be more precise. (4.7/11*12=5.1) You don't get a thirteenth game unless you win 6, and your chance of winning a bowl from the MAC seems to be about 30% based on my observations over the years. If your mean is 5.1, you should get to a bowl about 1 year out of 3, and win an extra game about 1 year out of 9, so add in .11 for bowl games, and the full mean is 5.2 games.

As for the specific schedules, I don't see a lot of difference. I look back at the older schedules and find names like William and Mary, Dayton, Cincinnati (which is much better now than they were then), Marshall (which is also better today than then) Idaho, and Richmond, along with about 1 current P5 team a year. The P5 teams I see are mostly Kentucky, Minnesota, Northwestern, Ducke, and NC State, not powerhouses by any means, along with Virginia Tech, another school that is much better now than then. I think that the schedules now are a step up from those.

Regression to the mean is not a popular prediction, I'm sure, but it's certainly more common than continuing to trend away from the mean. As a case in point, consider Kansas State. When Snyder retired, it wasn't long before they started slipping back to where they were before. With him back they are winning again, but when he retires, my guess is that they trend back to their mean.

The mystery is whether the added facilities, like the IPF and the Academic Center are sufficient game changers to make long term changes. That could happen, but remains to be seen.

Of course, we can still give everyone a trophy for everything all the time.

Everyone around here was touting Lane Kiffin as "the next big thing" in college coaching.

Consensus was he was headed to Housten.
Then they decided to promote from within.
Now he's at Florida Atlantic.

Fleck may be better off sticking at WMU for now.

Let us be honest here, you could add another game a season to the fact that OHIO plays very very few money games anymore compared to what the program was forced to play in the 80's and 90's

My Take: Considering what happened to Charlie Strong, I'd recommend that Fleck take the ISU gig, in your hypothetical. First, because they'll give him more time to right the ship. Second, because once righted they would have a reasonable expectation for success. If he gets them to the B12- championship game, even with a loss in that game, the fans won't be calling for his head. The upside at Texas is greater, but so is the downside. A few missteps, and you are out on the street selling insurance.