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Posted: 1/19/2017 9:53 PM
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Ohio State put a scoreboard into Ohio Stadium at a cost of $2.4 million.

In 1984.
Of course they did. The scoreboard really only cost $1 million. Two hundred grand went to the deal maker to keep his mouth shut about distributing the other million through the tatoo parlor yellow envelope delivery system....
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Posted: 1/19/2017 9:57 PM
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Brian Smith wrote:expand_more
Ohio State put a scoreboard into Ohio Stadium at a cost of $2.4 million.

In 1984.

What I'm saying is: I don't know how much scoreboard you're going to get for $750,000.

My guess is that prices are falling, not rising.
For a bare-bones scoreboard, perhaps.

If you want a really big video board, it costs.
We don't have a very big stadium. The biggest board for a stadium under 30,000 is Wyoming's new monster at 3,024sqft. They have a 29,000 seat stadium without endzone seating so proportionately it would be having a 2,000sqft one in Peden. It's also distance to the field. The 50' x 30' board Toledo built for 800k would be 3 stories above the academic center if mounted on top. Marshall is 49' x 28'. We should try to out do them but not by too much.
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Posted: 1/19/2017 10:13 PM
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The new board will be positioned on the existing brick structure.
Sounds right because of the height of the Sook Center would make the board rise 2-3 stories above it awkward from outside the stadium. Brick structure is 40' x 30' but the board has got to be at least 8' off the ground so it gives you 40' x 22' to work with. App State is 40' x 17' to give a comparable. I hope we can do better than this.

http://www.scout.com/stadium-journey/stadium/1848-kidd-br...
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Posted: 1/20/2017 1:44 PM
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Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
Thank you for the hyperlink Alan. Exciting news, especially regarding the Convo videoboard!

Not an expert on this stuff, that's for sure but at first blush $715K for the design and build of a new Peden Stadium scoreboard doesn't seem like a lot. Will the new scoreboard be a bare bones one?
I don't think so. For reference my alma mater (high school) redid the football stadium in 2016. A completely LED board (probably 1.5x size of the entire Peden board), with permanent sponsor spots below it, was fully paid for with a $250K donation (their business is featured above the screen with the school logo). You'd be surprised how far $715K, or whatever it was, will go today.
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I did a "straw poll" with 6 young men and women in the 20 something age group that have attended many high school and college sporting events.

I asked them: Since you are constantly looking at your smart phone, would you find utility in having an app that while at a game you could immediately have the same play back that would appear on a jumbotron at a game instead of having a jumbotron to view?

Each thought it would be cool and one said he's always texting fans not at the game and being able to instantly send an awesome play would add to the communication with the non-attendee.

If an app could be developed like this and viewed on your i-pad or smartphone, is there a need for the significant scoreboard expense?
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
I did a "straw poll" with 6 young men and women in the 20 something age group that have attended many high school and college sporting events.

I asked them: Since you are constantly looking at your smart phone, would you find utility in having an app that while at a game you could immediately have the same play back that would appear on a jumbotron at a game instead of having a jumbotron to view?

Each thought it would be cool and one said he's always texting fans not at the game and being able to instantly send an awesome play would add to the communication with the non-attendee.

If an app could be developed like this and viewed on your i-pad or smartphone, is there a need for the significant scoreboard expense?
Wifi/data infrastructure would be the problem.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 7:53 PM
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A problem in what sense..what cost?
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I'm far from a broadband network expert, so I don't know what the cost would be. But the wireless internet in Peden sucks during a game as is. I have trouble simply accessing websites, like checking scores on ESPN. I imagine upgrading the system to accommodate near-instant video replay to 20,000+ users simultaneously would be pricey.

But if you can get the infrastructure, I like the idea.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:34 PM
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Wouldn't it be a mere matter of putting a cell tower up nearby?

If so, shouldn't be too costly.

Build it into the new Academic Center (is it already part of the plan?).
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Posted: 1/23/2017 9:29 AM
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Would it? I don't know. Google tells me a tower costs about $250,000 to construct, but that's assuming it fits within local ordinances and architectural plans. I don't know if it's feasible to include it within the academic center design, but I doubt it is.

One thing that has befuddled me about OUr dear university is how a school with fantastic broadcast journalism and t-comm programs can be so slow to integrate broadcast infrastructure. We still don't have a true HD basketball stream, do we? (I've been w/o ESPN3 for half a year now so I haven't seen what the ESPN upgrades have done.)
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Posted: 1/23/2017 9:48 AM
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I'm not an expert on the subject.I do know from working on cell antenna installations that voice and data transmission,including video,are apples and oranges.

Part of the problem may be that,as I understand it,O.U.'s broadband network isn't "open".
That is only students can access it.
If that's the case,the infrastructure you need to have broadband for a large number of people,at the same time in one place ,may not be practical.
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Posted: 1/23/2017 10:06 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is a specialized problem. You wouldn't want to transmit that much data via the cellular network. Also, open broadband is typically designed for places like coffee shops, where you might have 50 people on the network. Designing a solution for 20,000 people to be on a single broadband would be something very different than a coffee shop.

That said, I'm sure there are experts who know how to do it. Lots of stadiums have been putting in wireless networks with access points throughout the stadium, and for much larger stadiums than Peden. Many solution have no doubt already been tried, and there are people out there who would know what would work, and what wouldn't.
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Posted: 1/23/2017 10:30 AM
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Metlife in N.J. has very good broadband.

Then again,Verizon is one of the stadium partners and has several kiosks pushing their products.
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Posted: 1/23/2017 11:28 AM
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I think a MAJOR wi-fi upgrade would be one of the best investments Ohio University could make. That goes well beyond Athletics.
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Posted: 1/23/2017 11:51 AM
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Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
The new board will be positioned on the existing brick structure.
Sounds right because of the height of the Sook Center would make the board rise 2-3 stories above it awkward from outside the stadium. Brick structure is 40' x 30' but the board has got to be at least 8' off the ground so it gives you 40' x 22' to work with. App State is 40' x 17' to give a comparable. I hope we can do better than this.

http://www.scout.com/stadium-journey/stadium/1848-kidd-br...
Looked into the one at App State, and they are putting in a new one for 2017 that looks huge.

https://twitter.com/appstatesports/status/775484191869837312
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