I would guess he would get an extension - if it hasn't happened already - before McDavis leaves in February. Same for Schaus.

I don't recall the specific article or if it was just a tweet, but I do remember Jason Arkley mentioned that Frank's contract is something like "auto-extending". He explained that it meant he would never enter a season as a lame duck coach because of this provision.

Correct, 1 year deal with automatic rollover

Thank you for replying with this, I would have never found it otherwise.

Apply that logic to hoops and Larry Hunter is still at the Convo, and we have zero NCAA Tournament wins in that span as opposed to three.

Western had an undefeated regular season, massive media coverage, a MAC Championship and a solid showing in a major bowl. They'll take a hit rebuilding around a new coach but that's a small price to pay.

Yes, but take a look how other highly successful MAC teams in the past that lost good young coaches faired. Buffalo comes to mind. Sure you have a great year or two, then lose your coach, and then quickly sink. Frank and OU has been the one constant successful program throughout. I for one am grateful that we haven't had to experience the roller coaster ride of success and failure that other MAC teams have endured. Of course, I was around during the Cleve Bryant & Tom Lichtenberg era so I know and understand how bad OU football can be.

At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that there are two schools of thought on this, and neither is inherently "right" or inherently "wrong". As I understand it, when Hunter was fired, fan support took a hit, but there were some good coaches and good years that followed. Conversely, when Burke was fired, there were some bad coaches and bad years that followed, so it can work the other way, too, and Shaq gave some other examples of that as well.

Personally, I'm content to see how far Solich can take the program, but others are not, so I presume this is a debate that will never end, probably even after he retires. My view, as I have expressed before, is that I see evidence of continued improvement. Each year, facilities improve, and recruiting improves. There was an off-period in 2013-4, but it was better than the prior off-period, between 2007-8. Ohio is now back to winning East Championships, and really was a pretty good team this year, probably only a player away from winning the MAC. Could they have won it with Sprague? With OUellette? With a healthy Mayne Williams or Randy Stites? Perhaps, which only shows how close they are.

Next year promises to be a good year, too, so I look forward to it. The defensive line won't be as good, but the areas that were weak in this team will be stronger, and I expect a more balanced team with no weak spots.

I am often amazed at some of the thinking (???) on this, a website 'affiliated with' an institution of education. More simply, what are some of you thinking?

1) First, expectations are different for football and hoops? Nonsense. The goal is what matters and that goal is to win. That might be why the games are played and score is kept. More specifically, being in the MAC, the goal is a MAC title.

That is the only expectation.

2) Wanting to see how far Solich can take us? Are you serious? It's been 12 years and you don't have the answer?


3) You wouldn't trade one MAC title in football due to the possibility of the coach who achieved that for us being lured away? After 47 years with no title, you'd let that tail wag the dog...you're more concerned with the coach being recruited away than the joy of winning a MACC?


4) Who gives a coach a contract that, after the first few years, rolls over automatically. Just do nothing ignore, don't address the situation...and it continues. It's a recipe for years and years of mediocre performance with boring and no MAC title.



The half dozen of you who always post about me posting the same thing and how empty of content my posts are--why don't you find something useful to do with your time. Or, you could actually respond intelligently (I'm being generous) to the four points above which are, at least, reasonably fair and relevant.

But, no, you'll bleat the usual sheep stuff that you are.

Do not confuse goals and expectations. They are not synonyms. I'm sure the goal of every coach and team is to win a MACC (or should be). I'm sure that is not the expectation. You may have two children. the goal is for both to go to college. But the expectation may be for one to go to Duke and the other to go to East Carolina. Schaus has many children (programs/teams). The goal may be the same, expectation may not. In business, I may have many sales people. Goals and expectations differ by person.


Per another thread, they did not know how far Snyder could take them at Kansas State. You beat the drum (per #1 above) MACC, MACC, MACC. Let's not change percussion instruments. Sometimes the answer comes late (and yes, sometimes it doesn't come at all)


Yes, it is about MACC. I agree with you on the trading of a migrant coach for a MACC. Odd thinking.



His name is Jim Schaus. That is S C H A U S.

He is the Athletic Director at Ohio University and is responsible for the hiring and firing of the head coaches. He can be reached at:

(740) 593-0982. or by email at schaus@ohio.edu .

If slow mail is your thing:
Jim Schaus
Ohio University Intercollegiate Athletics
Convocation Center
Athens, Ohio 45701


You have made it clear that MACC is the single, most important goal. You have made it clear, crystal clear, that Solich can not and will not get us there. So like the person that ate at Frank's Restaurant and didn't like the fries, you go on Yelp and TripAdvisor (aka BobcatAttack)and complain about the soggy fries. What DO YOU HOPE to accomplish? What is your goal? Is it simply to have another poster agree the fries suck. "Hey honey, I just got another alum to admit the fries at Frank's are soggy." "That's great dear, now please move those boxes of dog sweaters out of the living room, my mother is coming this weekend and we need the space."

Instead of complaining on Yelp, why don't you take your concern to management/corporate. Jim Schaus. Unless your expectation is he will ignore you. Which circles back to....what is your goal?

By the way, I would suggest sending Schaus a letter. My experience finds you are pretty likely to get a response.

I'm all for advocating for an injustice, or need for change. But don't give me this, "maybe I can start a movement" of some sort. Especially if you have not "gone to corporate."

Reach out to Schaus. He is at the root of your problem. He controls the "problem" as you see it. He determines if Frank coaches or not. Let him know you think the fries at Frank's are soggy and you just can't take it anymore. Don't wait to cancel your tickets to voice your opinion - that is a cop out. And certainly don't cancel your tickets without personally reaching out to Schaus. Sit down this weekend (when your significant other's mom is in town - lol) and write him a personal note telling him you thank Frank for his service, but are convinced Frank is not going to take us to the promise land - an MACC. And further that he (Schaus) needs to make the tough decision to let Frank go -- Or, you will be placed in the situation of making the tough decision of letting your tickets and support go...elsewhere in the university.

You are correct. Everyone knows your view (how could we not). Everyone has their own view. You are not going to start any type of groundswell, on this board, and certainly not beyond the board (for reasons I have articulated too many times already). So take your concerns to the top - that is where the decisions are made. Frank is on a rolling contract. We are not talking a difficult "buyout" any longer. This is not about money.

And Monroe, don't let Schaus dismiss you. Let him know that you have watched almost every Ohio football game since you have graduated. That you watch film. That you have put almost every skill player through your "eye test." And that you often review games play by play and can point to plays in almost every game (especially the losses - the so many losses) where Frank and his staff are not making the right call.

If you are going to be an advocate, don't complain in the parking lot. Take it to the man!!!

What I find comical is the amount of people that continue to ask Monroe why he keeps pounding the MACC drum?

Isn't that the same thing?

Do you think repeatedly responding to him and arguing with him is going to change his view?

Ummm. No. I think it's pretty obvious he is sticking to his guns.

But for whatever reason folks keep responding....over...and over...and over to him wondering when he is going to stop.

Psssst. He won't. Not until we win a MACC (and we damn well should've won one by now in 12 years!!!!)

Talk about pot calling the kettle black.

I really don't care what his opinion is but what I take issue with is the 8,500 posts trying to "win" everyone over to his side. Many times hijacking threads to accomplish it or bumping his own threads that no one has responded to. It's juvenile and stupid. He just admitted in this thread that he's trying to get everyone to think the way he does...wow!