DFC--Why so angry, my friend?
SBH was the one who used the 'no achievement in 11 years' language in his post, in the post I referred to.
then you're both wrong. Are there any RECENT achievements upon which to hang a hat? NIU last year maybe, 8-4 overall, but nothing earth-shattering. so sure, I don't think many like the way things look in recent years. but to say there have been no accomplishments in 11 years is just wrong.
yes...you are right. there have been a number of achievements the last 11 years as a whole. but recently there have been very, very little. I'd even venture to say none.
Ohio played for MAC title for first time - 2006
Ohio played in two more MAC title games (2009 & 2011)
Ohio won at a P5 school (Illinois 2006, PSU 2011, Kansas 2016)
Ohio won first bowl game (2011)
Ohio won a second bowl game (2012)
But what has Ohio done that would be considered an achievement in the last four seasons? If we're hanging our hat on winning at Kansas, that is just truly sad.
I think four years is enough to determine a direction in which the program is heading. It's not an upward trend? If you don't want to say it's a downward trend....then you have to admit it's flatlined. MAC Records...4-4, 4-4, 4-4, 5-3, and well on the way to another 5-3 or 4-4 again.
There has been nothing this program has done (outside of building an indoor practice facility) that gives you belief the program is on the rise.