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Bobcat1998
12/27/2024 11:10 AM
As a lazy Bobcat I was wondering if anyone had OUr defectors from this past year's final stats? I ask after seeing Keye Thompson had zero stats against Toledo. Combined with Sieh's lack of carries I hope those 2 in particular appreciate their NIL money because NFL would have come calling for Keye after an 11-3 season alongside Leake and Shay!!
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ExCat21
12/27/2024 12:18 PM
Here are just a few. Will add more:

Sieh Bangura:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4431499...

Tyler Foster:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4570286...

Keye Thompson: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4362317...

Miles Cross:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4685230...

Jacoby Jones:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/5083297...

Tyler Walton (no EMU stats; still shows Bobcats): https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4362312...

Rayyan Buell:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/5...

CJ Harris: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4686788...

Torrie Cox Jr: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4709783...

Shedrick Rhodes Jr: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4608757...

Will Kacmarek: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4880236...

Kurt Danneker (medically retired): https://www.on3.com/db/kurt-danneker-76181 /

If I'm the recruiting guy at Ohio, I would definitely use this as an example. Just keep it a 100% real with them. You could be a star in the MAC or a backup in the P4 unless your Kurtis.

If you don't see yourself going to the league and want to make money in the portal, by all means go get your coin. But these stats show the darkside of the portal. You could be a depth-piece only and stagnate your own momentum. Or take a chance on yourself.
Last Edited: 12/28/2024 4:57:01 AM by ExCat21
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ExCat21
12/27/2024 12:30 PM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
As a lazy Bobcat I was wondering if anyone had OUr defectors from this past year's final stats? I ask after seeing Keye Thompson had zero stats against Toledo. Combined with Sieh's lack of carries I hope those 2 in particular appreciate their NIL money because NFL would have come calling for Keye after an 11-3 season alongside Leake and Shay!!
Shay Taylor has the highest ranked Ohio player card ever in NCAA Football video game. It's a 92 overall (+1 higher than Katzenmoyer). Tank Pearson is 2nd with 91 overall. Pulled both out of packs and was very excited!
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Bobcat1998
12/27/2024 3:16 PM
ExCat21 wrote:expand_more
Here are just a few. Will add more:

Sieh Bangura:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4431499...

Tyler Foster:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4570286...

Keye Thompson: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4362317...

Miles Cross:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4685230...

Jacoby Jones:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/5083297...

Tyler Walton (no EMU stats; still shows Bobcats): https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4362312...

Rayyan Buell:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/5...

CJ Harris: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4686788...

If I'm the recruiting guy at Ohio, I would definitely use this as an example. Just keep it a 100% real with them. You could be a star in the MAC or a backup in the P4 unless your Kurtis.

If you don't see yourself going to the league and want to make money in the portal, by all means go get your coin. But these stats show the darkside of the portal. You could be a depth-piece only and stagnate your own momentum. Or take a chance on yourself.
Thanks. Jacoby had a decent year but would have LOVED playing in OUr offense!!
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Bobcat1996
12/27/2024 6:51 PM
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
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spongeBOB CATpants
12/28/2024 12:26 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
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M.D.W.S.T
12/29/2024 10:54 AM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
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BillyTheCat
12/29/2024 12:09 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
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spongeBOB CATpants
12/30/2024 9:34 AM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
I agree that its overestimated but compared to $0, anything seems significant enough. Coupled with the sales pitch that they will get more "opportunity" and exposure, I would guess a lot of kids don't hesitate to sign only to find out later they got duped.
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M.D.W.S.T
12/30/2024 9:34 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
Our average for our Top 5 or 10 guys? I don't think we're playing in the sandbox much at all. I remember Boals throwing out some numbers, obviously a much smaller group of kids, but I wouldn't be shocked in Parker was seeing that $50K area next season. Last season? $0. I think much of the G5 is very much NIL as people expected it a few years ago where you were able to get paid if you could get paid. If Mr. Millers Chicken thought you were a good face of marketing. Here's $10K to post about some chicken. Not getting checks just to show up. I don't see a world where we can compete with that. People around here with money want their name on buildings - not under the table to pay Rourke $200K to stay.
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12/30/2024 10:42 AM

 

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BillyTheCat
12/30/2024 12:02 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
Our average for our Top 5 or 10 guys? I don't think we're playing in the sandbox much at all. I remember Boals throwing out some numbers, obviously a much smaller group of kids, but I wouldn't be shocked in Parker was seeing that $50K area next season. Last season? $0. I think much of the G5 is very much NIL as people expected it a few years ago where you were able to get paid if you could get paid. If Mr. Millers Chicken thought you were a good face of marketing. Here's $10K to post about some chicken. Not getting checks just to show up. I don't see a world where we can compete with that. People around here with money want their name on buildings - not under the table to pay Rourke $200K to stay.
Hugh White of Athens just signed a Bobcat AJ Clayton to a new Honda Accord Touring Hybrid
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
12/30/2024 12:37 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
In a landmark filing, six former FSU basketball players are suing Seminoles coach Leonard Hamilton over $1.5 million in unpaid NIL cash they say he promised them.

The complaint details a team-wide boycott of a practice last season over the payments.https://t.co/1CFVshawH5&mdash ; Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1873725504882438...
This doesn't surprise me at all. When this all becomes less opaque, I suspect that we'll find that the rumors of amounts people talk about, and the money hitting bank accounts is wildly different.
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M.D.W.S.T
12/30/2024 1:06 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
Our average for our Top 5 or 10 guys? I don't think we're playing in the sandbox much at all. I remember Boals throwing out some numbers, obviously a much smaller group of kids, but I wouldn't be shocked in Parker was seeing that $50K area next season. Last season? $0. I think much of the G5 is very much NIL as people expected it a few years ago where you were able to get paid if you could get paid. If Mr. Millers Chicken thought you were a good face of marketing. Here's $10K to post about some chicken. Not getting checks just to show up. I don't see a world where we can compete with that. People around here with money want their name on buildings - not under the table to pay Rourke $200K to stay.
Hugh White of Athens just signed a Bobcat AJ Clayton to a new Honda Accord Touring Hybrid
Is this true or are you being funny? I was actually talking to a friend about this before. If we could get Don Wood to start leasing rides to some guys.
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oldkatz
12/30/2024 1:14 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
Our average for our Top 5 or 10 guys? I don't think we're playing in the sandbox much at all. I remember Boals throwing out some numbers, obviously a much smaller group of kids, but I wouldn't be shocked in Parker was seeing that $50K area next season. Last season? $0. I think much of the G5 is very much NIL as people expected it a few years ago where you were able to get paid if you could get paid. If Mr. Millers Chicken thought you were a good face of marketing. Here's $10K to post about some chicken. Not getting checks just to show up. I don't see a world where we can compete with that. People around here with money want their name on buildings - not under the table to pay Rourke $200K to stay.
Hugh White of Athens just signed a Bobcat AJ Clayton to a new Honda Accord Touring Hybrid
Is this true or are you being funny? I was actually talking to a friend about this before. If we could get Don Wood to start leasing rides to some guys.

Facebook Post by the auto dealer.
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Andrew Ruck
12/30/2024 1:35 PM
I saw in an interview AJ just got his driver's license finally...which is wild to me. I'll never understand those teens who are in no hurry.
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M.D.W.S.T
12/30/2024 1:44 PM
oldkatz wrote:expand_more
Hugh White of Athens just signed a Bobcat AJ Clayton to a new Honda Accord Touring Hybrid
Is this true or are you being funny? I was actually talking to a friend about this before. If we could get Don Wood to start leasing rides to some guys.

Facebook Post by the auto dealer.
Very cool.

Kudos to him for stepping up.
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BillyTheCat
12/30/2024 4:09 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Only a few of the transfer portal guys last year panned out. However, many of those guys got paid way more than they could make in Athens. Do these players value playing time over getting paid? Some will take the cash and others want to actually be on the field for meaningful snaps.
If I had to guess, I would say the cash supersedes any risk of not playing. I guess I can't blame them because at the end of the day, they came to college with dreams to go pro and make money. Depends on the dollar amount but I doubt they have any regrets if they made a significant amount.
What’s the going rate for a 3rd string TE with no stats?

Some of you DRASTICALLY overestimate what kids are receiving.

The top is getting a lot. Anyone not viewed as a top player or has nfl potential is receiving smiles and whatever they can get through their own true NIL deals marketing a product.

“ For the smaller, so-called Group of Five conferences, which include Conference USA and the Mountain West, the new N.I.L. environment puts football championships even further out of reach. The average value of top 25 players at any position at schools such as Liberty (part of Conference USA) or Boise State (in the Mountain West) is just under $50,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/31/business/n...
What do you think our average is? Next year it will largely be public record.
Our average for our Top 5 or 10 guys? I don't think we're playing in the sandbox much at all. I remember Boals throwing out some numbers, obviously a much smaller group of kids, but I wouldn't be shocked in Parker was seeing that $50K area next season. Last season? $0. I think much of the G5 is very much NIL as people expected it a few years ago where you were able to get paid if you could get paid. If Mr. Millers Chicken thought you were a good face of marketing. Here's $10K to post about some chicken. Not getting checks just to show up. I don't see a world where we can compete with that. People around here with money want their name on buildings - not under the table to pay Rourke $200K to stay.
Hugh White of Athens just signed a Bobcat AJ Clayton to a new Honda Accord Touring Hybrid
Is this true or are you being funny? I was actually talking to a friend about this before. If we could get Don Wood to start leasing rides to some guys.
I wouldn’t actually name an athlete if I was kidding, that would be flat out lying on my part. Been a couple years in the making, glad to see it finally happened. Boals is good friends with the BIG DOG of the family owned dealership and chooses todo his own business with them. Good deal for all involved and AJ is a great choice, great young man, and local athlete.
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shabamon
1/2/2025 10:08 AM
Rayyan Buell commits to Memphis. Obvious what's going on there.
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Bobcat1996
1/2/2025 1:26 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Rayyan Buell commits to Memphis. Obvious what's going on there.
Buell didn't play much in the Big 12 with Colorado. It could be that he gets more snaps in Memphis. Not certain how much of a pay cut he will take?
Last Edited: 1/2/2025 1:27:17 PM by Bobcat1996
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AlumDadDad
1/2/2025 4:35 PM
Kacmarek played well in the Rose Bowl. Didn't put up any numbers, but state doesn't throw to the TEs that much anyway. He was blocking well and definitely looked like he belonged.
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