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Bcat2
5/10/2017 11:50 AM
"Ohio's Frank Solich.... is the conference's longest-tenured head coach in the league and takes the top spot in Athlon's MAC coach rankings for 2017."

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-macs-co... /
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Pataskala
5/10/2017 12:03 PM
Oh, no. Now you did it.

Wait for it...Wait for it...
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Bcat2
5/10/2017 12:07 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Oh, no. Now you did it.

Wait for it...Wait for it...
:)
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mid70sbobcat
5/10/2017 2:44 PM
Delete thread before you know who sees it ...... this could turn into a 30 page thread.
Last Edited: 5/10/2017 2:45:10 PM by mid70sbobcat
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bobcatsquared
5/10/2017 3:20 PM
Athlon obviously did not interview you-know-who.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
5/10/2017 4:09 PM
Personally I argue Creighton at EMU considering the resources he has to work with there and is now encouraging out of his university and athletic dept. Solich is highly respected because he's been here a while, but still, gotta win one at some point.
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L.C.
5/10/2017 6:22 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Personally I argue Creighton at EMU considering the resources he has to work with there and is now encouraging out of his university and athletic dept. Solich is highly respected because he's been here a while, but still, gotta win one at some point.

You might very well be right. Overall their order is pretty close, but some might be a little high, some a little low. Some like Neu or Lester it's really too early to tell where they belong. Creighton I would put higher, and I'd probably put Bowden and Carey lower. I'd dock Bowden because he isn't really building a program; with all the Jucos and transfers, it might collapse if he leaves. I'd dock Carey because the trend direction is wrong.
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Bcat2
5/10/2017 8:39 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Personally I argue Creighton at EMU considering the resources he has to work with there and is now encouraging out of his university and athletic dept. Solich is highly respected because he's been here a while, but still, gotta win one at some point.
You might very well be right. Overall their order is pretty close, but some might be a little high, some a little low. Some like Neu or Lester it's really too early to tell where they belong. Creighton I would put higher, @I'd probably put Bowden and Carey lower. I'd dock Bowden because he isn't really building a program; with all the Jucos and transfers, it might collapse if he leaves. I'd dock Carey because the trend direction is wrong.

Re: Creighton @ EMU. 2016 EMU's TE, LT, LG, C, RG and RT were all Sr.s who all also happened to be returning starters. They also started all seniors across the defensive front four, probably after Ohio, the 2nd best front in the MAC. DE O'Connor drafted by the Lions. Creighton's challenge will be to replace these men. Anyone care to speculate on how that will go?
Last Edited: 5/10/2017 8:50:48 PM by Bcat2
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shabamon
5/10/2017 8:42 PM
Monroe's head a-splode.
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L.C.
5/10/2017 9:01 PM
Bcat2 wrote:expand_more
Re: Creighton @ EMU. 2016 EMU's TE, LT, LG, C, RG and RT were all Sr.s who all also happened to be returning starters. They also started all seniors across the defensive front four, probably after Ohio, the 2nd best front in the MAC. DE O'Connor drafted by the Lions. Creighton's challenge will be to replace these men. Anyone care to speculate on how that will go?

Good point. He also had a 4-star QB, who will be a Senior this fall. Mostly, though, we'll start seeing teams with his recruits soon, and that will give us a better idea how high he can take that program.
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Monroe Slavin
5/10/2017 11:13 PM
Surely, the more MACC that we don't win, the better of a coach and the more revered Solich will be.


Where do we find the application to submit this guy for dumbest use of the internet?
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Monroe Slavin
5/10/2017 11:31 PM
This rating is so bogus.

Solich is actually the best coach ever.
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OhioCatFan
5/11/2017 12:25 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
. . . Solich is actually the best coach ever at OHIO.
Fixed that for you! :-)

Actually, you could argue about Hess and Peden, but Solich is on his way to breaking many of their records. Just hang on for the ride, my friend.
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OhioCatFan
5/11/2017 12:35 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
Delete thread before you know who sees it ...... this could turn into a 30 page thread.
You're right about that. Take a look at Siberia and you can see a thread in which 85 percent of the posts are by you know who. That thread reminds me of a former colleague who was once described by another guy in my office "as the original one-man focus group."
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Monroe Slavin
5/11/2017 1:49 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . . Solich is actually the best coach ever at OHIO.
Fixed that for you! :-)

Actually, you could argue about Hess and Peden, but Solich is on his way to breaking many of their records. Just hang on for the ride, my friend.

Your standards are somewhere between nadir and delusional.

Apparently you have no concern at all re winning a MACC. N o n e .


Name for me those moments or games in which Solich has markedly made a difference.

Yes, his teams are generally reasonably well prepared for games. But in-game play-calling and adjustments almost totally lack.

You miss the hallmark significance of the overly conservative reflected in 20-0 at halftime to a final of 20-23.

There is no reason at all to believe we'll MACC or even be that good this year given the four deficits which I repeatedly state and which no one denies.


I doubt that you'd recognize mediocrity if it wore a sign and knocked on your front door.


8-6 last year despite two NFL draftees.
Last Edited: 5/11/2017 1:49:48 AM by Monroe Slavin
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Bcat2
5/11/2017 7:36 AM
Here we go. You know who, miserable in his ignorance. Of course Ohio should just not lose games. Should not lose those MACC games to the likes of CMU, NIU or Western. How could they? Mighty Ohio after all. Should not lose those bowl games, though in the 94 bowl games MAC teams have played the MAC prevailed only 34 times, 17 of those 34 being by Toledo & Miami. Should not lose to Tennessee despite their six NFL draftees. Should not lose to other MAC teams despite the fact that they, even Buffalo and Eastern Michigan are getting players drafted now joining Toledo (3), Western (3), Ohio (2) and NIU (1). Guess not having perspective tempered with experience a fan might feel that way.
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Monroe Slavin
5/11/2017 10:17 AM
Seriously, in the all-mighty MAC, 12 years with no championship and only two years with less than five losses (both with four) is stellar coaching.

When coaches convene and speak of paragons and guys who they crib from, Solich is at the top of the list for sure.


Bcat2--you are such an objective source.
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Bcat2
5/11/2017 11:46 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Seriously, in the all-mighty MAC, 12 years with no championship and only two years with less than five losses (both with four) is stellar coaching.

When coaches convene and speak of paragons and guys who they crib from, Solich is at the top of the list for sure.


Bcat2--you are such an objective source.
Bcat2 not the source here. It is Athlon who is holding Ohio's coaching up as the best in the MAC. Your problem is with them. Not sure if they are worried about you disageeing with them. Probably not.
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mid70sbobcat
5/11/2017 12:24 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Delete thread before you know who sees it ...... this could turn into a 30 page thread.
You're right about that. Take a look at Siberia and you can see a thread in which 85 percent of the posts are by you know who. That thread reminds me of a former colleague who was once described by another guy in my office "as the original one-man focus group."
What's odd in my opinion is that he keeps appending more stuff almost daily yet I doubt anyone has clicked on any of the links. Maybe it's a form of therapy for him.
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mid70sbobcat
5/11/2017 12:50 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
. . . Solich is actually the best coach ever at OHIO.
Fixed that for you! :-)

Actually, you could argue about Hess and Peden, but Solich is on his way to breaking many of their records. Just hang on for the ride, my friend.
8-6 last year despite two NFL draftees.
And if you watched and LISTENED to the event at Lancaster where Frank spoke recently he said we were a much better team than the 8-6 record. I am not ashamed to lose to two top 20 teams and then lose a bowl game to a team that lost to National Champ Clemson by a touchdown. You fail miserably to comprehend strength of schedule.
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allen
5/11/2017 1:15 PM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
. . . Solich is actually the best coach ever at OHIO.
Fixed that for you! :-)

Actually, you could argue about Hess and Peden, but Solich is on his way to breaking many of their records. Just hang on for the ride, my friend.
8-6 last year despite two NFL draftees.
And if you watched and LISTENED to the event at Lancaster where Frank spoke recently he said we were a much better team than the 8-6 record. I am not ashamed to lose to two top 20 teams and then lose a bowl game to a team that lost to National Champ Clemson by a touchdown. You fail miserably to comprehend strength of schedule.
And if you watched and LISTENED to the event at Lancaster where Frank spoke recently he said we were a much better team than the 8-6 record.
No need to harp on grammar. The sentence is tore up from the floor up, but we are talking about football.

Kudos to coach Solich, I love the recognition, but he needs to win a championship. I must say that I don't know of any other coach in the MAC that could lose all of their scholarship running backs at one time along with their starting QB and 5 corner backs and win the MAC East. To the contrary, I also don't believe that too many coaches would go 0-12 when it comes to winning MAC championships.
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mid70sbobcat
5/11/2017 1:34 PM
allen wrote:expand_more
. . . Solich is actually the best coach ever at OHIO.
Fixed that for you! :-)

Actually, you could argue about Hess and Peden, but Solich is on his way to breaking many of their records. Just hang on for the ride, my friend.
8-6 last year despite two NFL draftees.
And if you watched and LISTENED to the event at Lancaster where Frank spoke recently he said we were a much better team than the 8-6 record. I am not ashamed to lose to two top 20 teams and then lose a bowl game to a team that lost to National Champ Clemson by a touchdown. You fail miserably to comprehend strength of schedule.
And if you watched and LISTENED to the event at Lancaster where Frank spoke recently he said we were a much better team than the 8-6 record.
No need to harp on grammar. The sentence is tore up from the floor up, but we are talking about football.

Kudos to coach Solich, I love the recognition, but he needs to win a championship. I must say that I don't know of any other coach in the MAC that could lose all of their scholarship running backs at one time along with their starting QB and 5 corner backs and win the MAC East. To the contrary, I also don't believe that too many coaches would go 0-12 when it comes to winning MAC championships.
My sentence is "tore up from the floor up" and "no need to harp on grammar".
I was pointing out to Monroe that he could WATCH the Lancaster video on the Bobcat Caravan thread as well as LISTEN to Franks' words. My sentence makes total sense. Your "sentence is tore up from the floor up" reeks of a 5th grader and his/her lack on command of the English language.

Why can't you just post on the topic at hand? Why do you in 90% of your posts try to pick a fight with others?
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Monroe Slavin
5/11/2017 2:19 PM
Thank you, mid70s, for inventing the concept of 'quality loss.'


Of course, though our record was 8-6, it was actually much better than 8-6.


Now, I need you to tell me that our losses to Texas State, EMU and CMU were the highest state of the art, therefore wins.


Heck, if you give it a little thought--something you seem eminently capable of--you'll realize that our record was really 14-0 and we won the MACC and the national championship.


You'll be here all week.
So will I.
Hope you're enjoying as much as I are.
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mid70sbobcat
5/11/2017 3:22 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Thank you, mid70s, for inventing the concept of 'quality loss.'


Of course, though our record was 8-6, it was actually much better than 8-6.


Now, I need you to tell me that our losses to Texas State, EMU and CMU were the highest state of the art, therefore wins.


Heck, if you give it a little thought--something you seem eminently capable of--you'll realize that our record was really 14-0 and we won the MACC and the national championship.


You'll be here all week.
So will I.
Hope you're enjoying as much as I are.
Ahhhh, so once again you know MORE than Frank. I'm not surprised you feel that way.

Suggestion: You're better off posting on your Siberia thread that's what .... 26 pages long .... where no one else has to read your inane replies.

You merely make a total fool of yourself here posting we were 14-0 and the other drivel.
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L.C.
5/11/2017 10:56 PM
Interestingly, by Monroe's logic, there is only one clear number 1 coach in the MAC. That would be Carey at NIU, who is the only MAC coach who has won a MACC. Interestingly, I think his seat is getting very warm. Each year under him, NIU has gotten worse. Last year then not only didn't win a MACC, then didn't even finish in the top 2 in the west. If they slide again this year, they could wind up in 5th or 6th place, in which case he might be looking for other opportunities. If Monroe's logic is correct, how would that even be possible?
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