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TWT
7/9/2017 12:22 AM
I'm trying to book hotels for the fall and this year they are selling out across the region at a record clip. Pulling the info from Expedia for the night of each Saturday home football game on area hotels and lodges. You are seeing a more sellouts the direction of Parkersburg/Marietta/Jackson than ever before. Someone told me it could be due to OSU playing but demand isn't as high in Lancaster so I don't think so.

9/2 Hampton (32 sold out)
9/16 Kansas (40 sold out)
10/7 C. Michigan (33 sold out)
10/21 Kent State (31 sold out)
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Alan Swank
7/9/2017 10:04 AM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
I'm trying to book hotels for the fall and this year they are selling out across the region at a record clip. Pulling the info from Expedia for the night of each Saturday home football game on area hotels and lodges. You are seeing a more sellouts the direction of Parkersburg/Marietta/Jackson than ever before. Someone told me it could be due to OSU playing but demand isn't as high in Lancaster so I don't think so.

9/2 Hampton (32 sold out)
9/16 Kansas (40 sold out)
10/7 C. Michigan (33 sold out)
10/21 Kent State (31 sold out)


Hampton is Labor Day weekend, Kansas is Parents Weekend and the Paw Paw festival and Central is Homecoming plus October in SE Ohio and Kent State is the Ohio Smoked Meat Festival. The Lancaster and Nelsonville bypasses are making SE Ohio a much more accessible place.
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yamaha45701
7/9/2017 10:08 AM
I am doing work in the Hocking Hills for a lady who has two rooms (a cabin and a room in her studio) that she lists on airbnb. She has customers from around the world. There are other places listed on there two. That might be a possibility. Also there are several hundred weekend cabin rentals in the area of Hocking/Athens though the fall is a prime time for them but perhaps worth checking on.
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ou79
7/11/2017 9:56 AM
What I find amazing is when you call either the Hampton or Fairfield a year in advance before the schedule is released and are informed that basically the entire fall on weekends is already booked and the place is sold out. Welcome to Athens. BTW, if you do manage to get a room the price is doubled the normal rate and you have to book at least 2 nights stay.
Last Edited: 7/11/2017 9:59:33 AM by ou79
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OU_Country
7/11/2017 2:57 PM
ou79 wrote:expand_more
What I find amazing is when you call either the Hampton or Fairfield a year in advance before the schedule is released and are informed that basically the entire fall on weekends is already booked and the place is sold out. Welcome to Athens. BTW, if you do manage to get a room the price is doubled the normal rate and you have to book at least 2 nights stay.
Agreed, welcome to Athens' hotels. Examples of why I refuse to spend the weekend over event weekends anymore. We just pick a random basketball home weekend, or go over the summer. I'm not giving them $250 for a $125/night room.
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Alan Swank
7/11/2017 3:21 PM
ou79 wrote:expand_more
What I find amazing is when you call either the Hampton or Fairfield a year in advance before the schedule is released and are informed that basically the entire fall on weekends is already booked and the place is sold out. Welcome to Athens. BTW, if you do manage to get a room the price is doubled the normal rate and you have to book at least 2 nights stay.
And to add insult to injury our local government officials have banned Airbnb.
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OU_Country
7/11/2017 3:37 PM
Why on earth would they ban Air B&B? It's a great way to travel for a weekend.
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Robert Fox
7/11/2017 3:52 PM
I'd say it has something to do with keeping the hotels happy.
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Alan Swank
7/11/2017 8:16 PM
Athens presents itself as a liberal town (no politics intended in that statement) but when it comes to welcoming business, we are pretty much "not in my neighborhood." OCF - can you help me out with this one?
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OhioCatFan
7/12/2017 1:04 AM
Didn't it have something to do with AirBnB not paying the appropriate state and city hotel and lodging taxes?
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Alan Swank
7/12/2017 8:20 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Didn't it have something to do with AirBnB not paying the appropriate state and city hotel and lodging taxes?
My wife and a group of friends did Airbnb in Asheville in April and they paid the requisite taxes. The Athens did was strictly "not in my neighborhood."

https://www.athensnews.com/news/local/city-council-approv...
Last Edited: 7/12/2017 8:23:40 AM by Alan Swank
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Robert Fox
7/12/2017 8:42 AM
Maybe I misread the article, but it seems to say that these B&Bs will be permitted after the Nov 7 vote.
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Alan Swank
7/12/2017 9:10 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Maybe I misread the article, but it seems to say that these B&Bs will be permitted after the Nov 7 vote.
Not in my neighborhood. Only in business zones. Most of the airbnbs in Asheville are in residential neighborhoods. Here is the important part of the ordinance:

So long as somebody wants to have a bed and breakfast in an owner-occupied building in a part of the city where code allows it, and they get the appropriate permit, they can advertise on services like Airbnb.

“Airbnb is marketing; it’s not a new definition of what bed and breakfasts are,” Fahl said.

Vacation rentals that aren’t owner-operated still are not allowed under the new ordinance. These make up a big portion of the rentals advertised on the aforementioned websites.

Prior to this ordinance, the city’s code office threatened to levy a hefty, $500-per-day fine against anyone discovered to be operating short-term vacation rental establishments (via services such as Airbnb and VRBO, typically) outside of the limited areas defined in the former code.

The city’s former zoning code only allowed bed and breakfasts to be operated on streets that “front on a street officially designated as a state or federal highway, or on Richland Avenue, East State Street, West Union Street or Columbus Road.” Business owners have complained in recent years about the restrictive nature of that code.

The main changes in the measure revolve around allowing bed-and-breakfast operation in Athens’ R-3 residential zones and Athens’ B-1, B-2 and B-2-D business zones.
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Robert Fox
7/12/2017 9:24 AM
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
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Alan Swank
7/12/2017 9:30 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
This is indeed a tough one. The example I cited was 7 women in their 60s in a book club who spent three nights in an airbnb property in Asheville in a residential neighborhood. They spent plenty of money in restaurants, book stores and microbreweries - all of which fueled the local economy. As mentioned earlier, on many weekends you can't get a room in Athens which forces tourism dollars out of town including food and beverage. The problem I have is balancing individual property rights with community standards, whatever those are.
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Robert Fox
7/12/2017 9:46 AM
Agree that's the issue. Those residents who are opposed are probably fearful of a slippery slope that may or may not ever develop. If you rent a B/B to a gaggle of 60 year olds today, you'll rent to group of #fest party goers tomorrow. "There goes the neighborhood!"
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rpbobcat
7/12/2017 10:05 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
A number of the Towns around here are looking at the Airbnb issue.

The primary concerns center on regulation/safety.

New Jersey has areas that allow "Bed and Breakfasts", mostly in Shore areas.

Those businesses are regulated,including requirements for emergency ingress/egress,parking,inspections, etc.

To consider airbnb's, most communities around here feel that they must be subject to the same standards,inspections etc. as any other "Bed and breakfast" in the state.
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colobobcat66
7/12/2017 10:43 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
A number of the Towns around here are looking at the Airbnb issue.

The primary concerns center on regulation/safety.

New Jersey has areas that allow "Bed and Breakfasts", mostly in Shore areas.

Those businesses are regulated,including requirements for emergency ingress/egress,parking,inspections, etc.

To consider airbnb's, most communities around here feel that they must be subject to the same standards,inspections etc. as any other "Bed and breakfast" in the state.
Since my wife and I ran a fully licensed B&B back in the 1990's, I can assure you that this a problem going back at least til then. Everybody should play by the same rules in my opinion. For example we spent $1000's on required fire safety items and ADA items.
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ExCat21
7/12/2017 2:22 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I'm trying to book hotels for the fall and this year they are selling out across the region at a record clip. Pulling the info from Expedia for the night of each Saturday home football game on area hotels and lodges. You are seeing a more sellouts the direction of Parkersburg/Marietta/Jackson than ever before. Someone told me it could be due to OSU playing but demand isn't as high in Lancaster so I don't think so.

9/2 Hampton (32 sold out)
9/16 Kansas (40 sold out)
10/7 C. Michigan (33 sold out)
10/21 Kent State (31 sold out)


Hampton is Labor Day weekend, Kansas is Parents Weekend and the Paw Paw festival and Central is Homecoming plus October in SE Ohio and Kent State is the Ohio Smoked Meat Festival. The Lancaster and Nelsonville bypasses are making SE Ohio a much more accessible place.


The SE Ohio bypass was my internship at USDA Wayne National Forest. It is amazing to see the end results. However I still feel bad to all those Nelsonville businesses affected by it.
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ExCat21
7/12/2017 2:23 PM
A bunch of football alums will be in for the Kansas game. Im coordinating a reunion as we speak. This is an awesome opp for a home win against Big 12 team.
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Valley Cat
7/12/2017 3:49 PM
A football alum reunion is needed. Get those guys back to campus and get them announced show them how much they are appreciated.
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GoCats105
7/12/2017 4:36 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
This is indeed a tough one. The example I cited was 7 women in their 60s in a book club who spent three nights in an airbnb property in Asheville in a residential neighborhood. They spent plenty of money in restaurants, book stores and microbreweries - all of which fueled the local economy. As mentioned earlier, on many weekends you can't get a room in Athens which forces tourism dollars out of town including food and beverage. The problem I have is balancing individual property rights with community standards, whatever those are.
I thought the original purpose of the Air BNB was basically for people who wanted to rent their place for a weekend if they were out of town. Or using a spare room/rooms to make some side income. Is that technically a "business" though?

Do they not allow Uber or Lyft in Athens either?
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WishIWasAtLuckys
7/12/2017 4:56 PM
Us on BobcatAttack should just rent a House. Have tailgates.
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BillyTheCat
7/15/2017 6:33 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
A number of the Towns around here are looking at the Airbnb issue.

The primary concerns center on regulation/safety.

New Jersey has areas that allow "Bed and Breakfasts", mostly in Shore areas.

Those businesses are regulated,including requirements for emergency ingress/egress,parking,inspections, etc.

To consider airbnb's, most communities around here feel that they must be subject to the same standards,inspections etc. as any other "Bed and breakfast" in the state.
That was also part of the issue here as well.
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BillyTheCat
7/15/2017 6:34 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
OK, thanks. I'm back to my first point, that this is about protecting the hotel business in town. It's also about neighborhoods not wanting to allow businesses into their residential areas.

That's a tough one. I can see both sides.
A number of the Towns around here are looking at the Airbnb issue.

The primary concerns center on regulation/safety.

New Jersey has areas that allow "Bed and Breakfasts", mostly in Shore areas.

Those businesses are regulated,including requirements for emergency ingress/egress,parking,inspections, etc.

To consider airbnb's, most communities around here feel that they must be subject to the same standards,inspections etc. as any other "Bed and breakfast" in the state.
Since my wife and I ran a fully licensed B&B back in the 1990's, I can assure you that this a problem going back at least til then. Everybody should play by the same rules in my opinion. For example we spent $1000's on required fire safety items and ADA items.
Was also an issue in the Athens issue.
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