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Topic: OT: The next round of conference realignment will not be televised
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C Money
9/26/2017 6:13 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/inside-co... /

An interesting thought. TV money drove the last round of expansion/realignment. But cable is on the way out. Does that mean streaming will drive the next round?

ESPN (well, Disney) already announced a stand-alone streaming service, but it remains to be seen how that will work with TV coverage and college football. Facebook is streaming a few college football games this year, and Amazon Prime gets 10 NFL Thursday games.

If the audience is there, the money will follow...
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Daubenmire88
9/26/2017 7:45 PM
...And should this mean no more Tues, Wed, Thurs night 6pm games. I would truly love to have more opportunities to come up to Saturday games throughout entire season.
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BillyTheCat
9/26/2017 8:41 PM
Daubenmire88 wrote:expand_more
...And should this mean no more Tues, Wed, Thurs night 6pm games. I would truly love to have more opportunities to come up to Saturday games throughout entire season.
I say it will lead to more
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LynxRufus6
9/27/2017 1:01 AM
Does the $ from streaming revenue outweigh the revenue from the fans in the stadium that much? I can't help but assume that weekday games, especially during the cooler months of the year, would be costly
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Ohio69
9/27/2017 8:17 AM
But, I'll be watching Netflix, Facebook, and Amazon on my television.

By the way, the first people who make a TV that can download any and all apps wins. I have a "smart tv" but can't download all the apps I want. I find this strange. (Mainly I can't get WatchESPN or FoxSports app downloaded to the TV. Netfilx, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, etc. I can get.)
Last Edited: 9/27/2017 8:20:01 AM by Ohio69
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OhioStunter
9/27/2017 11:09 AM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
But, I'll be watching Netflix, Facebook, and Amazon on my television.

By the way, the first people who make a TV that can download any and all apps wins. I have a "smart tv" but can't download all the apps I want. I find this strange. (Mainly I can't get WatchESPN or FoxSports app downloaded to the TV. Netfilx, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, etc. I can get.)
I use an adapter to plug my phone (with those apps) into the HDMI on my TV so whatever you can watch on your phone, you can watch on TV (there's also a wireless simulcast feature, but it doesn't work as well for me.)
Last Edited: 9/27/2017 11:09:24 AM by OhioStunter
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GoCats105
9/27/2017 12:54 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
But, I'll be watching Netflix, Facebook, and Amazon on my television.

By the way, the first people who make a TV that can download any and all apps wins. I have a "smart tv" but can't download all the apps I want. I find this strange. (Mainly I can't get WatchESPN or FoxSports app downloaded to the TV. Netfilx, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, etc. I can get.)
Depends on the brand. Some manufacturers are getting wise to the streaming services and you can download more and more apps straight to them. I have an LG, and while they have a lot, they don't have them all.

For instance, I just switched my programming to Hulu Live from Sling. LG has a Hulu app, but it doesn't allow me to watch live channels. For those I have to use the app on the Amazon Fire stick.
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DelBobcat
9/27/2017 1:26 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
But, I'll be watching Netflix, Facebook, and Amazon on my television.

By the way, the first people who make a TV that can download any and all apps wins. I have a "smart tv" but can't download all the apps I want. I find this strange. (Mainly I can't get WatchESPN or FoxSports app downloaded to the TV. Netfilx, Amazon, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, etc. I can get.)
I have a Roku TV. I've never come across an app I couldn't get, though there might be some I'm not aware of. I mostly use Netflix, WatchESPN, Amazon, HBO, Hulu, NBC, Comedy Central, and WWE Network apps. That's right. Despite being accused by some on here of being an out-of-touch, liberal, elitist--I do love me some rasslin'.
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Ohio69
9/27/2017 2:11 PM
I do hear Roku is the best one to get.

But, I'd rather just have whatever Roku is already inside my TV.... I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Back to the original topic. Can you imagine the cash Facebook and Google can throw at a sport? Goodness.
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The Optimist
9/27/2017 2:17 PM
If I were a professional sports owner or college AD/Prez with a TV contract set to expire, I would not attempt to renew to existing deal OR negotiate for a new deal.

It would require a sizable financial investment, but I would create an internal online-streaming operation. The technical side of this would scare away many owners/ADs/prez (and rightfully so with the quality of the vast majority of sports streaming operations) but it could be done and down well.

TV rights are going to die if for no other reason than how easy it is to engage in piracy of illegal streams. While most are clinging onto TV, their is an opportunity to gain sizable fan support (and the money that follows) by offering a extremely cheap (if not free) stream while playing up the "we treat our fans the best" marketing angle.

First guy through the door always gets bloodied up. Someone will pull this off in the next decade and look like a genius but the technical failures will swallow up a couple in their wake.
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GoCats105
9/27/2017 3:02 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
If I were a professional sports owner or college AD/Prez with a TV contract set to expire, I would not attempt to renew to existing deal OR negotiate for a new deal.

It would require a sizable financial investment, but I would create an internal online-streaming operation. The technical side of this would scare away many owners/ADs/prez (and rightfully so with the quality of the vast majority of sports streaming operations) but it could be done and down well.

TV rights are going to die if for no other reason than how easy it is to engage in piracy of illegal streams. While most are clinging onto TV, their is an opportunity to gain sizable fan support (and the money that follows) by offering a extremely cheap (if not free) stream while playing up the "we treat our fans the best" marketing angle.

First guy through the door always gets bloodied up. Someone will pull this off in the next decade and look like a genius but the technical failures will swallow up a couple in their wake.
This is where I think the MAC failed as a conference when realignment was happening and these conferences were forming their own networks. I was fine with the conference standing pat on the schools they had, but they could have made huge strides years ago to make the entire conference a digital platform, without the dollars from ESPN and the like.

Now that's a pipe dream and there are such things as contracts that come into play, but they could have gotten the ball rolling.
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UpSan Bobcat
9/27/2017 3:30 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
If I were a professional sports owner or college AD/Prez with a TV contract set to expire, I would not attempt to renew to existing deal OR negotiate for a new deal.

It would require a sizable financial investment, but I would create an internal online-streaming operation. The technical side of this would scare away many owners/ADs/prez (and rightfully so with the quality of the vast majority of sports streaming operations) but it could be done and down well.

TV rights are going to die if for no other reason than how easy it is to engage in piracy of illegal streams. While most are clinging onto TV, their is an opportunity to gain sizable fan support (and the money that follows) by offering a extremely cheap (if not free) stream while playing up the "we treat our fans the best" marketing angle.

First guy through the door always gets bloodied up. Someone will pull this off in the next decade and look like a genius but the technical failures will swallow up a couple in their wake.
This is where I think the MAC failed as a conference when realignment was happening and these conferences were forming their own networks. I was fine with the conference standing pat on the schools they had, but they could have made huge strides years ago to make the entire conference a digital platform, without the dollars from ESPN and the like.

Now that's a pipe dream and there are such things as contracts that come into play, but they could have gotten the ball rolling.
I think the MAC got way more money for its ESPN contract than they could have gotten in any other way and won't be getting that much again after this contract is up. As that point, some type of digital platform could be a possibility, but when ESPN was offering that kind of cash for TV rights, there was no way the MAC could have passed it up.
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DelBobcat
9/27/2017 4:30 PM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
I do hear Roku is the best one to get.

But, I'd rather just have whatever Roku is already inside my TV.... I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Back to the original topic. Can you imagine the cash Facebook and Google can throw at a sport? Goodness.
I don't think I was completely clear. I have a Roku TV. Meaning the Roku is built into the TV. There's no box or any other hardware. You just turn the tv on and the home screen includes all your apps, or if you have cable you can select it from the home screen too. I highly recommend it.

https://www.roku.com/roku-tv
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UpSan Bobcat
9/27/2017 7:53 PM
My Smart TV recently updated and now has some of the most common streaming apps (Amazon Prime, Hulu, Crackle, Netflix and others) downloaded to it. It gave us a message to go to a website to order a new free remote to be able to use them. However, as far as I can tell, you can't download new apps to have on there, so I can't access WatchESPN or FoxSports on it. For those, you have to cast the apps from a phone or other device with the apps, which is how you had to access all smart broadcasts before the update. It's not a big deal to have to do it that way. It doesn't seem to slow down my phone or video.
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Ohio69
9/28/2017 9:12 AM
DelBobcat wrote:expand_more
I do hear Roku is the best one to get.

But, I'd rather just have whatever Roku is already inside my TV.... I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Back to the original topic. Can you imagine the cash Facebook and Google can throw at a sport? Goodness.
I don't think I was completely clear. I have a Roku TV. Meaning the Roku is built into the TV. There's no box or any other hardware. You just turn the tv on and the home screen includes all your apps, or if you have cable you can select it from the home screen too. I highly recommend it.

https://www.roku.com/roku-tv

Ah -- OK. That's more along the lines of I'm looking for. But, I don't even want a Roku account. I just want to donwload apps.... But for now it sounds like the Roku TV is the closest thing.
Last Edited: 9/28/2017 9:14:26 AM by Ohio69
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DelBobcat
9/28/2017 10:21 AM
Ohio69 wrote:expand_more
I do hear Roku is the best one to get.

But, I'd rather just have whatever Roku is already inside my TV.... I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Back to the original topic. Can you imagine the cash Facebook and Google can throw at a sport? Goodness.
I don't think I was completely clear. I have a Roku TV. Meaning the Roku is built into the TV. There's no box or any other hardware. You just turn the tv on and the home screen includes all your apps, or if you have cable you can select it from the home screen too. I highly recommend it.

https://www.roku.com/roku-tv

Ah -- OK. That's more along the lines of I'm looking for. But, I don't even want a Roku account. I just want to donwload apps.... But for now it sounds like the Roku TV is the closest thing.
Yea unfortunately you do have to sign up for an account. But once I logged in once I've never had to use that username or password again and they've never sent me any emails. I assume that if I went to someone else's house I could log into my account and get all my apps there. Otherwise I'm not sure what the account is for.
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OUcats82
9/28/2017 11:07 AM
DelBobcat wrote:expand_more
I do hear Roku is the best one to get.

But, I'd rather just have whatever Roku is already inside my TV.... I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Back to the original topic. Can you imagine the cash Facebook and Google can throw at a sport? Goodness.
I don't think I was completely clear. I have a Roku TV. Meaning the Roku is built into the TV. There's no box or any other hardware. You just turn the tv on and the home screen includes all your apps, or if you have cable you can select it from the home screen too. I highly recommend it.

https://www.roku.com/roku-tv
Seems like you are pretty happy with the TV-are there any drawbacks?

When you purchased this, was there much shared in any way about their plans to make sure that everything stays up to date/compatible? Some kind of performance/compatibility guarantee?
Do you have to download periodic updates like you would on say an Apple device?

I'm always leery about services/devices that may not keep up with the changes of time. I bought a Blu Ray player a few years back that came loaded with a lot of these apps/services (Netflix, Amazon Prime etc.) but it really struggles to keep up and has bad buffering issues.

I've since moved on to an Amazon Fire Stick (which I've really been pleased with so far). We are serviced by Spectrum where I live and with their high speed service going into the Fire Stick it's been great for my streaming preferences. I also like the idea that if the Stick becomes outdated etc. I can hopefully upgrade to something new and only be out $40 vs. $1,000 + on a new TV.
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