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Sam bobcat
10/31/2017 9:02 AM
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These games are not scheduled for you and me. The living rooms and sports bars that are the reason the game is on a blustery Tuesday will all be around 68 degrees with no wind.
Our first mid week game goes head-to-head against the World Series...it will be relegated to the 12" TV in the kitchen mop closet.
The baseball gods will forgive you for relegating the world series to the mop closet. GO CATS!
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cc-cat
10/31/2017 9:06 AM
Every game from here out is on national tv. Works for me. 56 degrees here at game time.
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bshot44
10/31/2017 11:17 AM
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So - per game day (night) experience:

1. Parking should be no problem

2. There should plenty of Both Hot Cocoa AND Hot Coffee (how much anyone wanna bet they STILL screw this part up?)
Oh! That's -120000 they don't get it right.

Lock. Of. The. Century.
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Andrew Ruck
10/31/2017 1:36 PM
Attendance will be bad and overstated. My 4 seats will be counted in the number, but no one will be in them, because I couldn't give them away. Don't care about the weather, but with 3 kids 10 & under trick or treat of course wins.

The crowd will be embarrassing on ESPN, but it won't matter because very few will be watching as I expect the World Series to get great ratings following the amazing game 5. The World Series is my favorite sporting event of the year, I'll be bouncing back and forth on the DVR.
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bobcatsquared
10/31/2017 3:26 PM
My four tickets will also go unused.

I will also be bouncing back and forth between the Ohio-Miami game and the . . . Crew playoff game with a few peaks at the Astros-Dodgers game.
Last Edited: 10/31/2017 3:26:21 PM by bobcatsquared
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Robert Fox
10/31/2017 3:29 PM
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My four tickets will also go unused.

I will also be bouncing back and forth between the Ohio-Miami game and the . . . Crew playoff game with a few peaks at the Astros-Dodgers game.
Well, I'll be watching. And so will my wife, my kids and my dogs. My cat won't give a shit.
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Ted Thompson
10/31/2017 3:32 PM

I'll be watching at the Centerville Buffalo Wings & Rings (near the intersection of 48 and Spring Valley). Anyone who wants to come on out, you're more than welcome.

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Alan Swank
10/31/2017 5:05 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
I'll be watching at the Centerville Buffalo Wings & Rings (near the intersection of 48 and Spring Valley). Anyone who wants to come on out, you're more than welcome.
Wow! With all due respect to one of OU's most loyal fans, this is telling. Until someone can tell me exactly how much money we NET from this debacle, I'm not convinced it's worth it.
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Alan Swank
10/31/2017 7:56 PM
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The Miami game weather, according to WeatherBug, will be the coldest day of the season so far. Temps at game time will be around 36F and by the end of the game it is predicted that temps will be below freezing. This will further erode the already low turnout prediction. The lunacy of these late season weekday games is further illuminated by this cold front that will be passing through the area. Interestingly, the low on Thursday will be much warmer -- a predicted 53. Sorry if I sound a bit like Weatherman Jeff, but them's the facts ma'am.
Pretty darn good prediction. Scalia Lab says 37 right now and it's game time.
Last Edited: 10/31/2017 8:00:16 PM by Alan Swank
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LynxRufus6
10/31/2017 10:24 PM
How many times have we heard about the playoff and the mega schools tonight? They know little information about 2-3 guys on each side of the ball and talk and talk and talk about those same guys over and over again. Terrible commentary. I usually mute the tv so I don’t have to listen to these jackasses because most of the time they are either stating the obvious (“that was a great post route ran there by *looks at roster sheet for 3 secs....Andre, I meanAndrew Meyer* or “Miami hasn’t done well on 3rd downs tonight* elementary stuff. Anyways, I read the comment about how obnoxiously blatant they are by spending 60% of the time talking about the playoff, 20% about Franks Nebraska roots, and 20% about the actual game being played and I agree, it’s awful. Turning on the radio for the WS while watching the Cats play on a muted TV. Can’t beat that
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RSBobcat
11/1/2017 12:58 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
So - per game day (night) experience:

1. Parking should be no problem

2. There should plenty of Both Hot Cocoa AND Hot Coffee (how much anyone wanna bet they STILL screw this part up?)
Oh! That's -120000 they don't get it right.

Lock. Of. The. Century.
Wow - They actually had both! And actually hot!
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WishIWasAtLuckys
11/1/2017 9:25 AM
I have suffered through some dreadful Saturday crowds - I think that given the weather and the time/day of the game, it was a really nice crowd..

I had nearly 30 people tailgate and go to the game with me and we all had a very nice evening and were excited for the big win.

If everyone that complains so much about lack of student attendance would just reach out to some connection that they have on campus and invite some kids to have a good time prior to the game and during it, maybe we would start to actually see a culture that we all seem to desire.

There is no way I would care about Ohio Athletics like I do unless one individual reached out to me during my time in undergrad and would ask if I wanted to go to games with him, tailgate with his family and friends and network with people he knows.

The biggest laughable and frustrating thing about this forum is the consistent complaints about the students when nobody does the easiest thing in the world to try and increase student involvement: ask them personally to come.
Last Edited: 11/1/2017 9:38:30 AM by WishIWasAtLuckys
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Deciduous Forest Cat
11/1/2017 9:52 AM
Thanks to the 8 pm start, I actually ended up doing some trick or treating with my kids and still heading toward Athens by 640. Worked splendidly except I missed the opening touchdown drive. STudent side was great tonight and there were more on the tower side than I expected certainly.

Really really glad I went.

Edit: regarding the crowd, it was a damn sight bigger than our last Saturday Halloween game, which was played in very nice weather but committed the unfortunate sin of being on the same day as Court Street Halloween. It's not even close.
Last Edited: 11/1/2017 9:55:21 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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Ted Thompson
11/1/2017 10:02 AM

Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I'll be watching at the Centerville Buffalo Wings & Rings (near the intersection of 48 and Spring Valley). Anyone who wants to come on out, you're more than welcome.


Wow! With all due respect to one of OU's most loyal fans, this is telling. Until someone can tell me exactly how much money we NET from this debacle, I'm not convinced it's worth it.
 

Alan, I wouldn't read too much into this. If the game had been Saturday, I also could not have attended due to my daughter playing in soccer tournament. Personally, I love the mid-week games because I get to watch my Bobcats and I'm free on the weekends to watch my kids play. As for what financially we're getting out of this, according to reports the MAC gets $8M annually from ESPN alone (doesn't include secondary contracts from CBS, etc.) so that works out to $670K per school. That's probably as much or more than most schools make in total football ticket revenue annually.

The fact of the matter is it's not even a hard decision for the AD. November Saturday attendance in the MAC (see Akron vs Buffalo) is not great. Also, keep in mind that much of this was created with the advent of the 12th game and 14-week schedule. Prior to the 12th game, most MAC schools played 5 home games per year. So they've only moved one game off that model. The 14-week schedule also means the potential for Thanksgiving week games in towns like Athens or Oxford. The 2008 Akron at Ohio game played on Saturday November 22nd, 2008 was the worst attended Ohio game I've seen in my 30 years following the Bobcats.

One last consideration I would ask that you make is the players. When I attend Ohio Football Media Days, I always ask the players off the record what they think of the mid-week games. They love them. They get to be in the national spotlight for a night. It's something that not even many Power 5 players get to experience. They get singular focus from NFL scouts. When it hits rights, you get national radio hosts like Jim Rome talking about you or your highlights on SportsCenter. 

It has its drawbacks obviously. You're just not going to get good crowds (although again you may not get them on Saturdays either). And when you're not having a good season and relegated to ESPNU or ESPN3, that's no fun. But it's part of the deal. The MAC playing in secrecy on November Saturdays for 50 years got the conference nowhere. I think these games get the MAC some amount of attention. Worst case, you cash a $670K check.

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bobcatsquared
11/1/2017 12:06 PM
Great insight, Ted. I wonder, however, how these same players that shared with you how much they appreciated playing on national TV feel about playing some of these games in nearly empty stadiums.
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rpbobcat
11/1/2017 12:14 PM
I took my wife out for dinner last night for her birthday.

It being Game Day ,I had on an Ohio polo.

When the waiter came came over he said "Ohio,you guys are on T.V.tonight".
Then he said he was looking forward to watching some "Maction".

I asked him how he knew about us.
He said he's a big college football fan and loves being able to watch midweek games.
Apparently,from what he said,so are a bunch of his friends.
Last Edited: 11/1/2017 12:15:11 PM by rpbobcat
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Ted Thompson
11/1/2017 12:16 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Great insight, Ted. I wonder, however, how these same players that shared with you how much they appreciated playing on national TV feel about playing some of these games in nearly empty stadiums.


I'm sure they would prefer full stadiums. But again, just because the game is on a Saturday, (especially in November or Thanksgiving Week games) doesn't mean attendance will be materially different. For example, would the same number of students that attended last night also have attended last Saturday? At best, I think you could say the same number would have shown up last Saturday. But certainly not more.

If you asked Akron/Buffalo, would you rather play in front of nobody on a Saturday on CBS Sports Network against all the games going on Saturday or would you rather play in front of nobody on a Tuesday and be on ESPN2 with no other competing games? I think they would take take the mid-week games. Maybe the players understand the reality of the situation better than us fans do. My 2 cents.
 

Last Edited: 11/1/2017 12:20:11 PM by Ted Thompson
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Deciduous Forest Cat
11/1/2017 12:36 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
Great insight, Ted. I wonder, however, how these same players that shared with you how much they appreciated playing on national TV feel about playing some of these games in nearly empty stadiums.


I'm sure they would prefer full stadiums. But again, just because the game is on a Saturday, (especially in November or Thanksgiving Week games) doesn't mean attendance will be materially different. For example, would the same number of students that attended last night also have attended last Saturday? At best, I think you could say the same number would have shown up last Saturday. But certainly not more.
Exactly! As I posted on another thread, I remember the last Halloween Saturday game. It had nice weather, and about half as many people as last night.
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Joe McKinley
11/1/2017 12:39 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Thanks to the 8 pm start, I actually ended up doing some trick or treating with my kids and still heading toward Athens by 640. Worked splendidly except I missed the opening touchdown drive. STudent side was great tonight and there were more on the tower side than I expected certainly.

Really really glad I went.

Edit: regarding the crowd, it was a damn sight bigger than our last Saturday Halloween game, which was played in very nice weather but committed the unfortunate sin of being on the same day as Court Street Halloween. It's not even close.
Respect to you,DFC. That's strong effort and you brought strong engagement and had insightful strategy comments between plays. I enjoyed hanging with you. Agree on the crowd. While numbers for #MACtion don't match Saturday games in nicer weather, from my perspective fan engagement is usually better.
Last Edited: 11/1/2017 12:40:35 PM by Joe McKinley
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