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Posted: 11/14/2017 11:56 PM
Is anyone really surprised this happened?

Seriously? Anyone?

I've been loyally following this program for 20 years and when tonight ended, I simply shrugged my shoulders, looked at my buddy and said "saves me money on going to Detroit."

I wasn't upset. I wasn't crushed. And that's sad.

But that's what the current state of this program has done to me.

This is a text my buddy (who went with me to Toledo game last week) sent me tonight:

"I can't remember who told me last week that the Bobcats would stomp Toledo and turn around and lose at Akron"

I was genuinely crushed when Grobe & Co lost at Marshall in 1997.

I was mildly bummed when they lost to CMU in 2006 in Detroit.

I was livid when they lost to NIU in Detroit in 2011

Then 2012 happened...Ohio beats Penn St ...gets ranked...and then lays ultimate egg at awful Fiami. That's when it all hit me ...

Ohio simply can't handle success. They thrive on falling flat in big spots.

2013 opener ... all the hype about how good they were... play at Louisville ... destroyed

2010 ... chance to win east ... lose at awful Kent

2012 & 13 ... November nosedives

2015 ... late game collapse loss at Minny ... sitting at 5-1 ... and get drummed three straight weeks

2-6 bowl record ...

And then last night. On the verge of national relevance again ... real chance to break thru and win MACC ... and they throw up all over themselves.

To an Akron team using 2nd string QB ... two starting defenders ejected ... 175 yards of penalties

You can't write a bigger gag job.

And I'm emotionless.

This is what I've come to expect from Ohio football. When the going is good ... just wait for them to drop a turd in the punch bowl.

Can't wait to freeze my ass at Buffalo watching ...
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:34 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Is anyone really surprised this happened?

Seriously? Anyone?

I've been loyally following this program for 20 years and when tonight ended, I simply shrugged my shoulders, looked at my buddy and said "saves me money on going to Detroit."

I wasn't upset. I wasn't crushed. And that's sad.

But that's what the current state of this program has done to me.

This is a text my buddy (who went with me to Toledo game last week) sent me tonight:

"I can't remember who told me last week that the Bobcats would stomp Toledo and turn around and lose at Akron"

I was genuinely crushed when Grobe & Co lost at Marshall in 1997.

I was mildly bummed when they lost to CMU in 2006 in Detroit.

I was livid when they lost to NIU in Detroit in 2011

Then 2012 happened...Ohio beats Penn St ...gets ranked...and then lays ultimate egg at awful Fiami. That's when it all hit me ...

Ohio simply can't handle success. They thrive on falling flat in big spots.

2013 opener ... all the hype about how good they were... play at Louisville ... destroyed

2010 ... chance to win east ... lose at awful Kent

2012 & 13 ... November nosedives

2015 ... late game collapse loss at Minny ... sitting at 5-1 ... and get drummed three straight weeks

2-6 bowl record ...

And then last night. On the verge of national relevance again ... real chance to break thru and win MACC ... and they throw up all over themselves.

To an Akron team using 2nd string QB ... two starting defenders ejected ... 175 yards of penalties

You can't write a bigger gag job.

And I'm emotionless.

This is what I've come to expect from Ohio football. When the going is good ... just wait for them to drop a turd in the punch bowl.

Can't wait to freeze my ass at Buffalo watching ...
Man, you cannot argue with this post. We cannot handle success.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:53 AM
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
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Posted: 11/15/2017 7:13 AM
Yep. I've seen too much Ohio football this century to expect good things to happen to us when conventional wisdom says to expect good things. I really prefer quietly winning. When I saw the national press love being directed our way, I just had a feeling a collapse was in the works.

Sports kharma is a real thing. Get cocky, and get crushed...
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Posted: 11/15/2017 7:46 AM
Here's what will perfectly cap off this season:

Kent State beats Akron, we mail it in (again) at Buffalo and lose. Then we go to Boise for the Tater Bowl and all of a sudden remember how to play and stomp a team as underdogs, leaving us all asking "Where the ____ was this in late November!?"
Last Edited: 11/15/2017 7:48:01 AM by 100%Cat
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Posted: 11/15/2017 8:10 AM
The sad part for me is I knew it was over as soon as the staff made the decision to kick the FG on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line. I thought to myself "welp, here we go again, playing not to win." And look what happens, that's the difference in the scoreboard.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 8:32 AM
bostonbobcat wrote:expand_more
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Hello.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 9:24 AM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
Here's what will perfectly cap off this season:

Kent State beats Akron, we mail it in (again) at Buffalo and lose. Then we go to Boise for the Tater Bowl and all of a sudden remember how to play and stomp a team as underdogs, leaving us all asking "Where the ____ was this in late November!?"
Yep! 2012 all over again.

BSHOT is right. Ohio cannot handle success or sustain it. And for me that's the most disappointing part. Perhaps Coach Solich is the Marty Schottenheimer of the MAC.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 9:26 AM
It’s almost . . . . to scripted.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 10:28 AM
It's truly an amazing run of disappointment. This one stings for me because I finally felt like we were the favorites in the MACC. If we were just jockeying for which east team gets to get whipped by the west, it wouldn't sting as bad...but this squad really roped me into thinking they were the ones. It's painful.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 10:57 AM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
It's truly an amazing run of disappointment. This one stings for me because I finally felt like we were the favorites in the MACC. If we were just jockeying for which east team gets to get whipped by the west, it wouldn't sting as bad...but this squad really roped me into thinking they were the ones. It's painful.
Let me toss out a scenario for everyone on here...

What will happen to you if we beat Buffalo, Kent beats Akron and we get to Detroit that way? Will backing in erase this feeling? If we make it this way and then lose big to Toledo will that make it bad again? I just hate the rollercoaster ride.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:27 AM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
Is anyone really surprised this happened?

Seriously? Anyone?

I've been loyally following this program for 20 years and when tonight ended, I simply shrugged my shoulders, looked at my buddy and said "saves me money on going to Detroit."

I wasn't upset. I wasn't crushed. And that's sad.

But that's what the current state of this program has done to me.

This is a text my buddy (who went with me to Toledo game last week) sent me tonight:

"I can't remember who told me last week that the Bobcats would stomp Toledo and turn around and lose at Akron"

I was genuinely crushed when Grobe & Co lost at Marshall in 1997.

I was mildly bummed when they lost to CMU in 2006 in Detroit.

I was livid when they lost to NIU in Detroit in 2011

Then 2012 happened...Ohio beats Penn St ...gets ranked...and then lays ultimate egg at awful Fiami. That's when it all hit me ...

Ohio simply can't handle success. They thrive on falling flat in big spots.

2013 opener ... all the hype about how good they were... play at Louisville ... destroyed

2010 ... chance to win east ... lose at awful Kent

2012 & 13 ... November nosedives

2015 ... late game collapse loss at Minny ... sitting at 5-1 ... and get drummed three straight weeks

2-6 bowl record ...

And then last night. On the verge of national relevance again ... real chance to break thru and win MACC ... and they throw up all over themselves.

To an Akron team using 2nd string QB ... two starting defenders ejected ... 175 yards of penalties

You can't write a bigger gag job.

And I'm emotionless.

This is what I've come to expect from Ohio football. When the going is good ... just wait for them to drop a turd in the punch bowl.

Can't wait to freeze my ass at Buffalo watching ...
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Posted: 11/15/2017 12:23 PM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
Let me toss out a scenario for everyone on here...

What will happen to you if we beat Buffalo, Kent beats Akron and we get to Detroit that way? Will backing in erase this feeling? If we make it this way and then lose big to Toledo will that make it bad again? I just hate the rollercoaster ride.
I wouldn't call that "backing in." We'd be 6-2; Akron would be 5-3. We'd have the better record and the outright division championship. Granted, it wouldn't feel as good as beating Akron would have, but we would have the better overall season record, and that's what being champs is all about.

Losing big to Toledo would be extremely disappointing but not unexpected. Our seniors played out of their heads on Senior Night, something that was dreadfully lacking last night. I'm not sure if Akron just handled us better or we had an emotional letdown. If it's Ohio-Toledo in the MACCG, Toledo will be ready for us.

FYI, what I would "backing in" is Akron loses at Kent then Buffalo gets ten feet of snow next week and our game gets cancelled. We're 5-2; Akron's 5-3.
Last Edited: 11/15/2017 12:31:01 PM by Pataskala
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Posted: 11/15/2017 2:23 PM
BobcatGrad84 wrote:expand_more
Is anyone really surprised this happened?

Seriously? Anyone?

I've been loyally following this program for 20 years and when tonight ended, I simply shrugged my shoulders, looked at my buddy and said "saves me money on going to Detroit."

I wasn't upset. I wasn't crushed. And that's sad.

But that's what the current state of this program has done to me.

This is a text my buddy (who went with me to Toledo game last week) sent me tonight:

"I can't remember who told me last week that the Bobcats would stomp Toledo and turn around and lose at Akron"

I was genuinely crushed when Grobe & Co lost at Marshall in 1997.

I was mildly bummed when they lost to CMU in 2006 in Detroit.

I was livid when they lost to NIU in Detroit in 2011

Then 2012 happened...Ohio beats Penn St ...gets ranked...and then lays ultimate egg at awful Fiami. That's when it all hit me ...

Ohio simply can't handle success. They thrive on falling flat in big spots.

2013 opener ... all the hype about how good they were... play at Louisville ... destroyed

2010 ... chance to win east ... lose at awful Kent

2012 & 13 ... November nosedives

2015 ... late game collapse loss at Minny ... sitting at 5-1 ... and get drummed three straight weeks

2-6 bowl record ...

And then last night. On the verge of national relevance again ... real chance to break thru and win MACC ... and they throw up all over themselves.

To an Akron team using 2nd string QB ... two starting defenders ejected ... 175 yards of penalties

You can't write a bigger gag job.

And I'm emotionless.

This is what I've come to expect from Ohio football. When the going is good ... just wait for them to drop a turd in the punch bowl.

Can't wait to freeze my ass at Buffalo watching ...
110 percent agree!!!

As a living Bobcat Football fan you just have to be numb inside like a robut.

Granted a remotely decent Akron squad is going to beat the "c l ass of the MAC" at least one in ten times and last night was that night.

Still it is kind of like losing an intellectually challenged friend. You miss them for a few days then realize my dog's offer more stimulating conversation than that person.

I am getting old, so I may not have many winters left in me. Whether the Cats go 14-0 and win the BCS Championship, go 6-6 to get to Detroit, or space aliens abduct all of the MAC Football Teams with the exception of Ohio and Ball St. I just want to see a MACC in my lifetime.
Last Edited: 11/15/2017 2:24:20 PM by Urban Bobcat
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:52 PM
boo hoo hoo.....we lost a game and you're so upset....there there honey, everything is going to be just fine. The sun came up, didn't it? We played on national TV and it was an exciting, tight game. Our players and coaches want to win and to suggest anything else is absurd. Just enjoy the game. There will be a few more this year.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 5:09 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
boo hoo hoo.....we lost a game and you're so upset....there there honey, everything is going to be just fine. The sun came up, didn't it? We played on national TV and it was an exciting, tight game. Our players and coaches want to win and to suggest anything else is absurd. Just enjoy the game. There will be a few more this year.
HAHAHA! This might be post of the year.

Yup. This was "just another loss"

That's obvious by about 95% of the reaction on this message board.

No need to really invest anything into winning ... it's all about "playing an exciting, tight game on national TV" ... the result is meaningless.

Gimmie a break.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 6:13 PM
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boo hoo hoo.....we lost a game and you're so upset....there there honey, everything is going to be just fine. The sun came up, didn't it? We played on national TV and it was an exciting, tight game. Our players and coaches want to win and to suggest anything else is absurd. Just enjoy the game. There will be a few more this year.
That’s what I was thinking. We gave them a tough game. They will think about us for an hour. Look mom, we were on tv. Johnny brought the juice boxes as expected. What’s not to like. We had great participation. Cheers everyone. Oh wait, at least Ohio A& M lost. TOS to Ohio, oops I meant Ohio A & M. Gotta go now, honey can you hand me my fragile rock lunch box. I can’t wait to see what is at the bottom of my Cracker Jack box, I may sneak into my lunch box a little early. I can’t wait to see if my coworkers saw us lose by a field goal, that was a close game. I hope they saw the 110. Frank looked strong. I may wear my Ohio suspenders today. If someone says that I am wearing floods, I will blame it on my groovy suspenders.
Last Edited: 11/15/2017 6:13:46 PM by allen
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Posted: 11/15/2017 6:17 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
boo hoo hoo.....we lost a game and you're so upset....there there honey, everything is going to be just fine. The sun came up, didn't it? We played on national TV and it was an exciting, tight game. Our players and coaches want to win and to suggest anything else is absurd. Just enjoy the game. There will be a few more this year.
Living up here in Cleveland, not so sure if the sun came up-if it did we didn’t see it. 😜
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Posted: 11/15/2017 8:33 PM
8 wins in 11 years against teams that finshed .500 in the MAC, can we get a participation ribbon since we showed up but lost to another bad team.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 9:02 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
boo hoo hoo.....we lost a game and you're so upset....there there honey, everything is going to be just fine. The sun came up, didn't it? We played on national TV and it was an exciting, tight game. Our players and coaches want to win and to suggest anything else is absurd. Just enjoy the game. There will be a few more this year.
How's that cake tasting? I believe that is what you said to me on another thread when I assumed said scenario was going to play out......
Last Edited: 11/15/2017 9:03:42 PM by Buckeye to Bobcat
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:16 PM
This is the odd (and sad) thing...

We "gave away" two games this year and "stole" zero. Usually, the randomness of the college football universe (due in large part to the fact that it is a game played by very large kids) dictates that a season is laced with a couple of "given away" and "stolen" games. UMass was closer that it should have been, but in the end, it turned out as it "should have". Toledo was an upset, but you can't say that 38-10 is a "stolen" game. I'm not a fan of "shoulda, coulda", but it's not a stretch to say that we "could" be standing at 11-1 right now. Not sure I know why...just an odd (and sad) observation.

BTW - EMU was a close win, but I don't think it would have been "stolen" or "given away" if either team won.

The good thing is that I can now think of the Akron game without throwing up in my mouth...oooommmph...never mind.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 3:25 PM
I like Bshot44 because he's gets all upset and then he goes to the next game. He says he's numb, but I'm not buying it. Anyway, you want sad? I arrived right around Cleve Bryant's first year. From his first year to Solich's arrival the Bobcats record was 67-157-5. The average season was 3-8-1. 50% of the seasons the Bobcats had 9, 10, or 11 losses. 50% ! 1-AA teams like Youngstown State, Northeastern, Marshall, and Northern Iowa beat the Bobcats and we were not surprised. That wasn't just some bad 3-4 year period. That was 20 years. 20 years. Twentyfreakingyears. 20 years dudes. 20.... And, I had to walk up hill both ways to Peden Stadium. Before global warming. It was cold.

Frank Solich? Good by me.
Last Edited: 11/16/2017 3:28:13 PM by Ohio69
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Posted: 11/16/2017 3:46 PM
Well said.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:14 PM
At some point this year on TV, I heard Rocky Boiman or some announcer say the following: field goals lose championships. I called it chickenshit at the time. If they wanted to win the MAC East the
bobcats should’ve gone for the touchdown on fourth down inside the one in the second quarter.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 7:24 PM
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I like Bshot44 because he's gets all upset and then he goes to the next game. He says he's numb, but I'm not buying it. Anyway, you want sad? I arrived right around Cleve Bryant's first year. From his first year to Solich's arrival the Bobcats record was 67-157-5. The average season was 3-8-1. 50% of the seasons the Bobcats had 9, 10, or 11 losses. 50% ! 1-AA teams like Youngstown State, Northeastern, Marshall, and Northern Iowa beat the Bobcats and we were not surprised. That wasn't just some bad 3-4 year period. That was 20 years. 20 years. Twentyfreakingyears. 20 years dudes. 20.... And, I had to walk up hill both ways to Peden Stadium. Before global warming. It was cold.

Frank Solich? Good by me.
Look...no one is arguing Frank Solich gave this program a much, much needed facelift, rebuild, etc.

But c'mon ... quit the "we sucked for decades and should just be happy with where are now cause it sucked for the better part of 3 decades"

Enough.

A 1970 Ford is better than a 1937 Ford ... but neither are as good as a 2017 Ford.

Why settle for "okay" when better is attainable?

I'm not suggesting Ohio needs to beat Alabama .... but for goodness sake, is it too much to ask to beat CMU & Akron when you're 10+ pt favorites?

Just because Ohio sucked for a long time .. everyone should just be happy they don't suck now? Really?

Dumb.
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