Maybe not here....but Frank was fired after a 9-3 Husker season.

The team is averaging 40ppg this season. If they go 10-3 it will be the best winning percentage in the Solich era. This year I don't think they will mail it in and they are due for a bowl win after narrow losses the last 2 years.

We're not Nebraska either. And I think Nebraska has learned its lesson about firing coaches with winning records.

Playing Buffalo on 10 days rest and then an overmatched CUSA team in the Bahamas I feel relatively optimistic on 10 wins.

It makes you apologetic to think, "Gosh, darn, at least Lichty ain't leading us to another 0-fer." That was more than a generation ago. Anybody that played on that team is north of 40.

Surely you don't rock to yourself in a corner thinking that if Solich leaves then a return Bryant/Lichtenberg is the only possible result.

To call Kansas a major conference team is laughable. They haven't won a road game this decade. The only thing major about Kansas is their basketball team, and that doesn't mean a damn thing on the gridiron.

Expect more.

I'll definitely grant you that second guess, totally legit when you fast forward to the end of the game. But there is a common thread in our three losses: TO margin v Purdue was -2, CMU was -3 with a kick block returned for a TD, and Akron was -3. Figure in the short fields many/most of those TO's turned into, and you can't win games in that fashion. I'm not blaming the players v coaches, but statistics are what statistics are, and that is the primary/common thread in our three losses. And not to suggest we would have beaten Purdue, but the two fumbles on concurrent drives that let to scores really changed momentum in that game. But if you make us even in TO's v CMU/Akron, we likely win both games relatively easily. Now you can likely also argue that RB's and kick returners should be coached better to not fumble, and QB's should be coached better to not throw INT's...

NAIL ON HEAD!!! Losing the turnover battle will get you every time.

My question is not "why" but "what"? What does "more" mean? A conference championship?

Good reality check.

Bill Hess died, he did not retire. It would take about $300K more for Ohio to pay its HC $1,000,000 and not quite sure about the no resources thing as there has been money given to do the IPF and Sook without Ohio going into debt for it.

I've been gathering my thoughts on the game last night and even though I may still be collecting my thoughts, I believe I've come to a realization. Granted this may not be an apples to apples comparison, but I believe there is some merit. I feel as if Frank Solich has become the Mark Martin of the MAC. Martin, being a NASCAR driver won many races in his career. At one point he was the winningest driver in NASCAR's lower division (Busch Series). However he never won a Championship. Even though he is one of the 50 greatest drivers, and a Hall of Famer, he does not have a coveted championship. As we all know the Bobcats and Solich have not achieved that piece of hardware yet. Will they? I hope so, but like Martin, Solich's time in his career is waining, and someone only gets so many chances.

Am I defending him? Not at all, but I do appreciate where he has brought us. However when there is consistency such as 0-12, most likely 0-13, a few head scratcher losses, and the gut punches such as NIU and last night, I can't help but think of the saying, "you knew that dog bit when you pet it."

When we all envisioned what could of happened here when Solich first came on board, I doubt this was it. My only question is has this staff become complacent? I could be way off base, but the Ohio athletic department doesn't strike me as the "hold the coaches feet to the fire" type of athletic department. Get wins, go to a bowl, get national exposure, and represent the university in a positive manor, they are happy. I've also gotten the impression that Solich and Co, aren't coaching as if their jobs depend on it. Albin and Burrows know that Solich won't give them walking papers, and at 73 Solich is more likely to retire than be fired. The stability is nice, continuity is nice, the wins over less than stellar opponents are... nice? But after a while it gets stale. As John Tortorella of the Blue Jackets put it. "Safe is death."

For quoting Jim Rome, I propose a lifetime ban from BA.

"I am very deflated, disappointed, disgusted by this loss at Akron. Seems like Ohio Football will never get over the hump.
"That said, I have been around long enough to have some perspective. Others on this board have been around much longer than me.
But I vividly remember the Lichtenberg years. The Bobcats won more games in a month this season than I can remember them winning in my four years at OU. Others may remember almost two decades of horrible performances before that.
For the longest time, it seemed an impossible dream to EVER get a major-conference team of any kind to even PLAY at Peden Stadium - let alone beat them like the Bobcats did this season. I was there when the Bobcats lost at home to Youngstown St. in the early 90's. And I also was there when the Bobcats beat Pitt at home in OT, and I was there when they won at Penn St.
Ohio Football under Frank Solich has been more satisfying then anything I could imagine it would ever become 25 years ago. Many of us remember how bad it was, and how bad it could become again someday.
I can't fathom why the Bobcats lost tonight's game. But I remember the decades-long period of time when that game wouldn't have mattered at all to anyone. A time when the chance to be in position to win the MAC was a crazy and silly thought.
Now, does my perspective make me apologetic? Or does it make me appreciative? I'll leave that for you to decide. But I know how bad things used to be, and could maybe be again when Coach Solich is no longer there - whether on his terms or someone else's."


AMEN Bobcat Pride! Keep preaching it as some of these fans fail to remember the days of 8 wins in five seasons.