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Mike Johnson
11/27/2017 2:52 PM
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I was thinking about that, too. In postseason we play teams with winning records who are generally among the best in their conference. And since midweek MACtion came to be our November opponents are usually those who are expected to be in the hunt for division titles. So we feed off generally lesser competition in Sept and Oct then get the tougher teams in Nov and Dec.
That is just not true. They don’t back load all the “good” teams on the schedule late in the year. I looked at our MAC record since 2007 winning teams 6-6 or better and we are 8-23. Believe what you want but we beat up crap teams all year every year and are lucky to beat a team with a winning record maybe once a year.
Oh actually we are now 8-24 after losing to 6-6 Buffalo.
I'd like to know how that record compares to other teams. Who in the MAC has a better record against teams with winning records? An average team is going to have a losing record to teams with winning records. Just based no how numbers work, a large number of good teams are going to have losing records against teams with winning records. I'd guess 8-24 is bad but not as bad as it sounds.
Just to clarify, are were saying that during Coach Solich's 13 seasons at Ohio and among his 96 wins, only 8 were over teams that finished at .500 or better?

Wins over Penn State, Utah State, La-Monroe, Toledo twice, Temple, NIU, Marshall, etc totals 8?
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BillyTheCat
11/27/2017 3:06 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
I was thinking about that, too. In postseason we play teams with winning records who are generally among the best in their conference. And since midweek MACtion came to be our November opponents are usually those who are expected to be in the hunt for division titles. So we feed off generally lesser competition in Sept and Oct then get the tougher teams in Nov and Dec.
That is just not true. They don’t back load all the “good” teams on the schedule late in the year. I looked at our MAC record since 2007 winning teams 6-6 or better and we are 8-23. Believe what you want but we beat up crap teams all year every year and are lucky to beat a team with a winning record maybe once a year.
Oh actually we are now 8-24 after losing to 6-6 Buffalo.
I'd like to know how that record compares to other teams. Who in the MAC has a better record against teams with winning records? An average team is going to have a losing record to teams with winning records. Just based no how numbers work, a large number of good teams are going to have losing records against teams with winning records. I'd guess 8-24 is bad but not as bad as it sounds.
Just to clarify, are were saying that during Coach Solich's 13 seasons at Ohio and among his 96 wins, only 8 were over teams that finished at .500 or better?

Wins over Penn State, Utah State, La-Monroe, Toledo twice, Temple, NIU, Marshall, etc totals 8?
No, the original post clearly states that is the record in November and December. So, Penn State would not count.
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Mike Johnson
11/27/2017 6:04 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
I was thinking about that, too. In postseason we play teams with winning records who are generally among the best in their conference. And since midweek MACtion came to be our November opponents are usually those who are expected to be in the hunt for division titles. So we feed off generally lesser competition in Sept and Oct then get the tougher teams in Nov and Dec.
That is just not true. They don’t back load all the “good” teams on the schedule late in the year. I looked at our MAC record since 2007 winning teams 6-6 or better and we are 8-23. Believe what you want but we beat up crap teams all year every year and are lucky to beat a team with a winning record maybe once a year.
Oh actually we are now 8-24 after losing to 6-6 Buffalo.
I'd like to know how that record compares to other teams. Who in the MAC has a better record against teams with winning records? An average team is going to have a losing record to teams with winning records. Just based no how numbers work, a large number of good teams are going to have losing records against teams with winning records. I'd guess 8-24 is bad but not as bad as it sounds.
Just to clarify, are were saying that during Coach Solich's 13 seasons at Ohio and among his 96 wins, only 8 were over teams that finished at .500 or better?

Wins over Penn State, Utah State, La-Monroe, Toledo twice, Temple, NIU, Marshall, etc totals 8?
No, the original post clearly states that is the record in November and December. So, Penn State would not count.
Not so clear to me but, hey, blame it on my flawed intellect. So, we know that, thus far, Coach Solich is 27-26 in November-December games. So, now it seems we are saying that of those 27 wins 8 were over teams that finished .500 or better.
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PhiTau74
11/27/2017 7:28 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
I was thinking about that, too. In postseason we play teams with winning records who are generally among the best in their conference. And since midweek MACtion came to be our November opponents are usually those who are expected to be in the hunt for division titles. So we feed off generally lesser competition in Sept and Oct then get the tougher teams in Nov and Dec.
That is just not true. They don’t back load all the “good” teams on the schedule late in the year. I looked at our MAC record since 2007 winning teams 6-6 or better and we are 8-23. Believe what you want but we beat up crap teams all year every year and are lucky to beat a team with a winning record maybe once a year.
Oh actually we are now 8-24 after losing to 6-6 Buffalo.
I'd like to know how that record compares to other teams. Who in the MAC has a better record against teams with winning records? An average team is going to have a losing record to teams with winning records. Just based no how numbers work, a large number of good teams are going to have losing records against teams with winning records. I'd guess 8-24 is bad but not as bad as it sounds.
Just to clarify, are were saying that during Coach Solich's 13 seasons at Ohio and among his 96 wins, only 8 were over teams that finished at .500 or better?

Wins over Penn State, Utah State, La-Monroe, Toledo twice, Temple, NIU, Marshall, etc totals 8?
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PhiTau74
11/27/2017 7:31 PM
I quoted 8 wins against MAC teams with winning records from 2007-2017, 8-24 to be exact which includes 6-6 teams. This is for the entire season.
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Mike Johnson
11/27/2017 10:00 PM
PhiTau74 wrote:expand_more
I quoted 8 wins against MAC teams with winning records from 2007-2017, 8-24 to be exact which includes 6-6 teams. This is for the entire season.
OK re entire season, and I see now that you were talking about only MAC teams whereas I was thinking also about non-conf teams. So it would seem that my eyesight is about the same as my intellect - both questionable.
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