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OhioCatFan
12/13/2017 9:35 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
...I call Bullshit. The problem when there were 25 games was that all the 6 and 6 teams from power conferences went to bowls and deserving 9 and 2 teams missed out if they didn't win their conference. The idea that bowls used to be about rewards is complete garbage.
+1

This is a good point, and one that is easy to forget today with all the bowl proliferation.
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bshot44
12/14/2017 1:01 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
As for college football's bowl games, what is compelling about, for example, Troy vs North Texas? Marshall vs Colorado State? Ohio vs UAB?

Unless you're a fan, or alumnus of any of those institutions, what about those games (or others like them) is interesting? That's what I'm getting at - why do people care about mediocre match-ups to the tune of good TV ratings for ESPN?

Don't get me wrong, there are some bowl games that are interesting. OSU vs USC, or maybe Stanford vs TCU, as examples. But the others - with two 6-6 or 7-5 teams playing each other, why is that compelling to watch?
I don't think I'd use the word compelling ...

But it's football ... and on a day where there are few/limited games ... I'll take Troy v North Texas over nothing.

Would I normally watch that game ... probably not.

But on Saturday, when there is little competition .... and I have a beer in my hand ... yeah, I guess that makes it somewhat compelling.

And if you happen to have a friend "in the desert" and you happen to drop a few nickels on .... let's say, Troy -6' .... compelling takes on a different meaning ;)

But I do get your point ... some of these match-ups are pure trash. Couldn't agree more.

But that's what is kind of fun about it for me. I have a group of friends that will get together this Saturday ... watch these horrible games ... have a lot of laughs in the process ... and a few beers to go with them.

It's a fun December tradition.

But don't get me wrong .... I long for the days of only 25 or so bowl games that went to teams as an actual reward ... not a participation ribbon.

6-6 or even 7-5 teams shouldn't be showered with praise and a bowl game every year.

Those games used to have a much deeper value and meaning ... but now we get 6-6 UVA playing 6-6 Navy AT NAVY ... and that's a bowl game?!?!

Oh well ... I'll watch and enjoy a Esther's Lil Secret or two to add to the compelling-ness (available in cans on Kenny Rd in Cbus if my sources are correct)
I call Bullshit. The problem when there were 25 games was that all the 6 and 6 teams from power conferences went to bowls and deserving 9 and 2 teams missed out if they didn't win their conference. The idea that bowls used to be about rewards is complete garbage.
I think we're somewhere in the middle here. I wouldn't call it complete garbage.

Yeah ... back when there were only 20 bowl games (1997-98) there were a handful of 6-5 teams that made bowls from power conferences.

Less than 10 years later, we were up to 32 bowl games in 2006-07 ... the same year the NCAA started allowing 6-6 bowl teams. That year there were 7 of them.

2007-08 = 7

2008 up to 34 bowls and they started allowing 5-7 teams...

2008-09 = 9 non-winning teams
2010-11 = 14 non-winning teams (bowls expanded to 35)
2011-12 = 14
2012-13 = 13
2013-14 = 8
2014-15 = 13 non-winning teams (bowls expanded to 39)
2015-16 = 15 non-winning teams (bowls expanded to 41)
2016-17 = 20 non-winning teams ... 25% of all participants
2017-18 = 15 ... only the second time in nine years that no teams with losing seasons had to be invited to fill available bowl berths.

The train started really going off the track about 10 years ago .... the fact we're in an era where 6-6 or 5-7 MAC teams are "earning" bowl bids is complete garbage to me.

128 teams have earned bowl bids in the last ten years with non-winning records. That's insane.

I think there is a middle ground where bowl games can be trimmed back and only teams that truly deserve/earn it get a bowl game.

But we all know that won't happen ... follow the money! CFB is beyond repair at this point ... it's gotten too far off the rails to ever be reigned back in unfortunately.
Last Edited: 12/14/2017 1:19:07 AM by bshot44
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MedinaCat
12/14/2017 10:13 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
What is compelling, interesting TV? Take a look at the most-watched TV shows and you'll see that it is across the board (but football still does OK)...

Most-Watched Shows of the 2016-2017 Season
(Numbers are in millions of viewers)
1. Sunday Night Football (NBC) - 19.6
2. Thursday Night Football (NBC) - 16.9
3. NCIS (CBS) - 14.6
4. Thursday Night Football (CBS) - 14.5
5. The Big Bang Theory (CBS) - 14.0
6. The OT (Fox) - 13.6
7. 60 Minutes (CBS) - 11.9
8. Bull (CBS) - 11.4
9. Football Night in America Pt. 3 (NBC) - 10.8
10. The Voice - Monday (NBC) - 10.6
11. Dancing with the Stars (ABC) - 10.4
12. The Voice - Tuesday (NBC) - 10.3
13. NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS) - 10.1
14. Blue Bloods (CBS) - 9.9
15. This Is Us (NBC) - 9.8
16. NCIS: New Orleans (CBS) - 9.6
17. Hawaii Five-0 (CBS) - 9.2
18. Little Big Shots (NBC) - 9.1
19. Survivor (CBS) - 8.4
20. Madam Secretary (CBS) - 8.3
21. Bobcats Just Want to Be Bobcats Commercial (ESPN3) - 8.299
Observations:
Not a cable channel to be found in 1-20.
And people wonder why the NFL owners extended a new contract to Goodell.
Wondering how Thursday Night Football fairs when on cable/digital platforms.
What the hell is Little Big Shots?
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Mark Lembright '85
12/14/2017 9:12 PM
MedinaCat wrote:expand_more
What is compelling, interesting TV? Take a look at the most-watched TV shows and you'll see that it is across the board (but football still does OK)...

Most-Watched Shows of the 2016-2017 Season
(Numbers are in millions of viewers)
1. Sunday Night Football (NBC) - 19.6
2. Thursday Night Football (NBC) - 16.9
3. NCIS (CBS) - 14.6
4. Thursday Night Football (CBS) - 14.5
5. The Big Bang Theory (CBS) - 14.0
6. The OT (Fox) - 13.6
7. 60 Minutes (CBS) - 11.9
8. Bull (CBS) - 11.4
9. Football Night in America Pt. 3 (NBC) - 10.8
10. The Voice - Monday (NBC) - 10.6
11. Dancing with the Stars (ABC) - 10.4
12. The Voice - Tuesday (NBC) - 10.3
13. NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS) - 10.1
14. Blue Bloods (CBS) - 9.9
15. This Is Us (NBC) - 9.8
16. NCIS: New Orleans (CBS) - 9.6
17. Hawaii Five-0 (CBS) - 9.2
18. Little Big Shots (NBC) - 9.1
19. Survivor (CBS) - 8.4
20. Madam Secretary (CBS) - 8.3
21. Bobcats Just Want to Be Bobcats Commercial (ESPN3) - 8.299
Observations:
Not a cable channel to be found in 1-20.
And people wonder why the NFL owners extended a new contract to Goodell.
Wondering how Thursday Night Football fairs when on cable/digital platforms.
What the hell is Little Big Shots?
I have to wonder if this list is only network TV and doesn’t include cable. Like many others I’m a huge Walking Dead fan, and as Walking Dead is one of if not the most popular program on cable, I would think it would be in the overall top 20 in terms of viewership?
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OhioStunter
12/15/2017 8:16 AM
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:expand_more
What is compelling, interesting TV? Take a look at the most-watched TV shows and you'll see that it is across the board (but football still does OK)...

Most-Watched Shows of the 2016-2017 Season
(Numbers are in millions of viewers)
1. Sunday Night Football (NBC) - 19.6
2. Thursday Night Football (NBC) - 16.9
3. NCIS (CBS) - 14.6
4. Thursday Night Football (CBS) - 14.5
5. The Big Bang Theory (CBS) - 14.0
6. The OT (Fox) - 13.6
7. 60 Minutes (CBS) - 11.9
8. Bull (CBS) - 11.4
9. Football Night in America Pt. 3 (NBC) - 10.8
10. The Voice - Monday (NBC) - 10.6
11. Dancing with the Stars (ABC) - 10.4
12. The Voice - Tuesday (NBC) - 10.3
13. NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS) - 10.1
14. Blue Bloods (CBS) - 9.9
15. This Is Us (NBC) - 9.8
16. NCIS: New Orleans (CBS) - 9.6
17. Hawaii Five-0 (CBS) - 9.2
18. Little Big Shots (NBC) - 9.1
19. Survivor (CBS) - 8.4
20. Madam Secretary (CBS) - 8.3
21. Bobcats Just Want to Be Bobcats Commercial (ESPN3) - 8.299
Observations:
Not a cable channel to be found in 1-20.
And people wonder why the NFL owners extended a new contract to Goodell.
Wondering how Thursday Night Football fairs when on cable/digital platforms.
What the hell is Little Big Shots?
I have to wonder if this list is only network TV and doesn’t include cable. Like many others I’m a huge Walking Dead fan, and as Walking Dead is one of if not the most popular program on cable, I would think it would be in the overall top 20 in terms of viewership?
Excellent observations. The source is this link, which does not caveat why there are no cable outlets listed: http://www.tvguide.com/news/most-watched-highest-rated-sh... /

Here is another list with key ad demos that include cable. Regardless, point remains that what is "compelling TV" is all over the place.

TOP 100 SHOWS, ADULTS 18-49
America’s most-watched series of the 2016-2017 season in the key advertising demographic (measured in ratings points) are …

1

The Walking Dead AMC

8.0


2

NFL Sunday Night Football NBC

6.9

3


NFL Thursday Night Football NBC/NFL Network

5.2


4

NFL Thursday Night Football CBS/NFL Network

5.0


5

The Big Bang Theory CBS

4.9


6

This Is Us NBC

4.8


7

Empire Fox

4.3


8

NFL Monday Night Football ESPN

3.9


9

Modern Family ABC

3.7


10

Grey’s Anatomy ABC

3.5


11

American Horror Story FX

3.4


12

The Bachelor ABC

3.1


13

The Voice (Monday + Tuesday) NBC

3.0


14

Designated Survivor ABC

2.9


15

How To Get Away With Murder ABC
Scandal ABC

2.6


17

Survivor CBS

Talking Dead AMC

NCIS CBS

Chicago Fire NBC

The Goldbergs ABC

2.5


22

Law & Order: SVU NBC

Criminal Minds CBS

Black-ish ABC

Lethal Weapon Fox

Chicago PD NBC

2.4


27

Bull CBS

Kevin Can Wait CBS

Speechless ABC

2.2


30

The Simpsons Fox
American Housewife ABC

The Middle ABC

Dancing With the Stars ABC

The Blacklist NBC

Timeless NBC

Chicago Med NBC

24: Legacy Fox

Love & Hip Hop Atlanta 6 VH1

2.1
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